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suchTrip
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Two trips in a week
#22396749 - 10/18/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello, I'm glad I joined your community and sorry if this question has been answered before.
So I am planning a one-week vacation in Amsterdam and I wonder if I could have a two good quality trips in this time? I'm gonna be using magic truffles. Everyone says that you should wait at least one week before the next trip. But in this case I don't have this time, and I could make only a 2-3 days gap between the trips. What do you think about it? And do I have to take a bigger dose the second time? Usually I take ~10 grams (there is 15 in a box) for a decent trip. But I always made at least 6 months gap between each of them.
Thank you.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22396804 - 10/18/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can trip twice in a week. In my experience if I wait 3 days in-between trips then, given the same dose, I feel the same intensity. I have also eaten mushrooms two days in a row, just needed a bigger dose the second day. So if you have enough time between trips, I think most say a week on here, you should feel the full effects of your dose. If you think the gap isn't long enough then take a larger dose for the second trip.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22396934 - 10/18/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I'm visiting Amsterdam I have the same issue - is it worth tripping twice when there is only a couple of days in-between?
I wouldn't bother trying to trip two days in a row, but I find that after 48 hours it's possible to get another decent trip.
I would normally increase the dose by about 50% - so if you were taking 10g truffles on the first trip you might want to consider the full 15g on the second to get a comparable intensity. The tolerance isn't that huge after 2 or 3 days but it can be enough to dull the trip if you take the same amount each time.
The second trip might feel different because you don't have that same build-up of anticipation over weeks or months, but I find this is not necessarily a bad thing because I'm more relaxed and can enjoy the trip in a slightly different way (e.g pay more attention to the visuals and enjoy the trip in a more recreational vibe for a change).
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: Aldebaran]
#22396971 - 10/18/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice, thank you for your answers. Now the main headache is to choose what type of truffles to eat. I have had a wonderful experience with "Psilocybe Mexicana" but this type is more like beginners choice or something like that. I also tried "Mushrocks" but I had a strange feeling after them and also I had less visuals compared to Mexicana. "High Hawaiians" looking nice actually.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22397048 - 10/18/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mexicana are a very nice trip and have good visuals... If you wait 3 days you should be fine and have a trip with the same intensity. You just might be more used to the feeling so it's more comfortable in my experience
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: SnowDaze]
#22397330 - 10/18/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buy yourself the Hollandia (2x as potent as others), Utopia or Atlantis variety's. These are selective bred strains by the Dutchmen and the 3 most powerfull in the world. To be clear these aren't real strains, you can compare it with the different 'strains' of Marijuana.
Here is an overview off what you can expect.
The mexicana, tampanensis and galindoi are the original and true strains, all the others are selective bred.
By yourself only one dose to start. I'll bet you that you'll not have the courage to do it a second time.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip] 1
#22397340 - 10/18/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have had a wonderful experience with "Psilocybe Mexicana" but this type is more like beginners choice or something like that.
Yes, usually the packs sold as mexicana & tampanensis are intended to give more of a gentle trip, the stones are usually ones that haven't been grown for long enough to become really potent.
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I also tried "Mushrocks" but I had a strange feeling after them and also I had less visuals compared to Mexicana.
There isn't really much difference between trips on different types of sclerotia except for potency; and the potency of any particular product isn't always consistent. I remember a weird trip with these Mushrocks where the traffic noise on the ring-road below the hotel sounded like a swarm of helicopters, and there was writing in the clouds.
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"High Hawaiians" looking nice actually.
These are good, they are decently strong and sell in 22g packs, so it's a relatively strong dose. From memory there are a couple of places in Amsterdam that sell them for €25 (generally €27.50 elsewhere) - Mushroom Galaxy (Halve Maansteeg 12, just off Rembrantplein) and Tatanka (Korte Leidsedwarstraat 151A, close to the Leidseplein).
A full box of these can come on quite strong; on my last trip I started to feel quite uncomfortable and had to lie down, I was sinking into the CEV like I was falling asleep; I was seeing figures of creatures approach (in my CEV) that looked like insects merged with bicycle frames. The trip calmed down after that and I could be a bit more sociable, but that kind of onset can be alarming and disorienting if you aren't used to it - a bit too heavy unless you've tripped a few times already. Of course you don't have to eat the whole box...
Generally it's a bit hard to predict the potency of sclerotia in advance, the way they are marketed should give a clue (usually there is a range of products which are intended to be from weakest to strongest) but it's easy to end up in a trip that is stronger or weaker than planned.
There's a Sclerotia FAQ I posted on an Amsterdam-related message board if you are interested, some of the info on the brands on sale is out of date but the rest might be of interest.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: cvh]
#22397381 - 10/18/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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cvh said: By yourself only one dose to start. I'll bet you that you'll not have the courage to do it a second time. 
Hehe, might be. Yeah I'll get two different types I guess. Atlantis seems cool, I could use it for the second day. And for the first day I want something new. Dragon or Hawaiians. I will look into this Hollandia also, thank you.
Aldebaran Thank you for the info. Hawaiians seems really cool now. Yeah I already had a few trips before so I think I can try something a bit more potent, like Dragon's Dynamite etc. Of course I won't take entire 22 grams, my last trips was really amazing, but I never took too much.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22397411 - 10/18/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It depends on your body, but for me personally, yeah totally. I've tripped two days in a row, or three times in a week even, without needing to increase my dose for the same intensity of effects.
Sounds like you have a groovy vacation coming up, OP, enjoy!
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22397649 - 10/18/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I already had a few trips before so I think I can try something a bit more potent, like Dragon's Dynamite etc.
The Dragon's Dynamite seem to be a bit weaker than they were in the past (first ever trip on 15g of them was ridiculously strong). Atlantis is decent stuff, the potency is usually somewhere in the middle between the mexicana / tampanensis and the "special editions" with fancy random names.......I've had weak batches and strong batches.
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Buy yourself the Hollandia (2x as potent as others), Utopia or Atlantis variety's.
The Hollandia has good reports from people who've bought it online, but it doesn't have much of a presence in the actual Amsterdam smartshops. I tried 15g of the "Mushmagic" hollandia and it was very mild. I also tried 15g of "Dutchii" from the Magic Truffles shop (Chills n' Thrills at Nieuwendijk 17) - this was supposed to be the same as hollandia but it didn't seem particularly strong (although I did throw up after ~35 mins because they weren't in the best condition after being in my hotel room for a couple of days, so it wasn't a completely fair trial). I also tried their galindoi (supposed to be their strongest) and that was pretty mild too. Possibly just weak batches...like I say the potency can vary.
Usually I stick to the McSmart products (normally High Hawaiians) which are fairly consistent (apart from the Dragon's Dynamite which is OK but seems to be weaker these days). I like the fact that they are in vacuum-sealed packs so they look and taste fresher.
The other brand I've had some good experiences with is Sirius Smart Products (advertised as "Freshbox"). Their basic range is Space Shuttles / Dolphins Delight / Golden Teacher / Cosmic Connectors with a special edition range of Purple Rain / White Diamonds / Royal Beluga / Mother's Finest. I got a bit fed up because the stuff would be blindingly strong on one trip and then very average the next, and a couple of times I bit into pieces of large sclerotia that contained a mouthful of uncolonized grains so I had to spit them out. I might give them another try, the Royal Beluga always used to be pretty strong....
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: Aldebaran]
#22397679 - 10/18/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, McSmart production is really good. Well I haven't tried others actually, but I even like the taste of the truffel itself. It's like eating a peanuts with some citrus flavour. Well I guess Hawaiians and Atlantis it is then. Thank you very much.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22400154 - 10/18/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get High Hawaiians. Holy shit, these truffles are extremely potent and strong, as well as cheap and sold by 22 grams. This friday I made tea out of them and I am not even going to talk about the philosophical effect (because it was too amazing), but the visuals were so crazy. In darkness I saw a guy with an axe approaching me with a "no emotion" face. Also, I saw faces and eyes everywhere I looked. Closed eye visuals were so realistic that I didn't know for the whole time I was in darkness if my eyes were opened or closed.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: Aik]
#22402575 - 10/19/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aik said: Get High Hawaiians. Holy shit, these truffles are extremely potent and strong, as well as cheap and sold by 22 grams. This friday I made tea out of them and I am not even going to talk about the philosophical effect (because it was too amazing), but the visuals were so crazy. In darkness I saw a guy with an axe approaching me with a "no emotion" face. Also, I saw faces and eyes everywhere I looked. Closed eye visuals were so realistic that I didn't know for the whole time I was in darkness if my eyes were opened or closed.
This sounds scary enough. I guess I should take half a dose. As I understand you made your tea from all 22 grams?
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22403181 - 10/19/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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suchTrip said: Hello, I'm glad I joined your community and sorry if this question has been answered before.
So I am planning a one-week vacation in Amsterdam and I wonder if I could have a two good quality trips in this time? I'm gonna be using magic truffles. Everyone says that you should wait at least one week before the next trip. But in this case I don't have this time, and I could make only a 2-3 days gap between the trips. What do you think about it? And do I have to take a bigger dose the second time? Usually I take ~10 grams (there is 15 in a box) for a decent trip. But I always made at least 6 months gap between each of them.
Thank you.
you are courting a bad trip by cramming them together like that. Don't be a pig. Contrary to popular opinion around here, mushrooms are really not a good choice if you are just looking for a recreational experience. You will find yourself in a very dark place sometime if you try to use them that way.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22403207 - 10/19/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes 22 grams, I wouldn't say it was that scary haha, I was very self aware and conscious so it didnt freak me out that much. The guy in the shop told me to take 75% (knowing I am not a noob) but I of course didn't listen
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champinhom said:
you are courting a bad trip by cramming them together like that. Don't be a pig. Contrary to popular opinion around here, mushrooms are really not a good choice if you are just looking for a recreational experience. You will find yourself in a very dark place sometime if you try to use them that way.
Well, I perfectly understand that psychodelics can't be taken "just for fun" and without any precaution. I always treat them with respect and I know what I can expect of. It's just I don't come to Amsterdam very often so I want to get the maximum experience everytime.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: suchTrip]
#22409229 - 10/20/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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suchTrip said:
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Aik said: Get High Hawaiians. Holy shit, these truffles are extremely potent and strong, as well as cheap and sold by 22 grams. This friday I made tea out of them and I am not even going to talk about the philosophical effect (because it was too amazing), but the visuals were so crazy. In darkness I saw a guy with an axe approaching me with a "no emotion" face. Also, I saw faces and eyes everywhere I looked. Closed eye visuals were so realistic that I didn't know for the whole time I was in darkness if my eyes were opened or closed.
This sounds scary enough. I guess I should take half a dose. As I understand you made your tea from all 22 grams?
I would recommend 15grams as a more normal dose. Truffles to me need to be eaten, not made into a tea. But that is just me. Just put 3/4 of a 22 grams box in your mouth (or get a 15gr box). Chew it a while and then swallow it all down.
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Re: Two trips in a week [Re: cvh]
#22409310 - 10/20/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are so sour. Blehhhhh
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