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Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true?
    #22395612 - 10/17/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone, basically just what the title says. To be more specific if this is common, is it only common when done with B+ MS? Will isolating some strong myc on agar be able to prevent this? Anyways hopefully this wasn't dumb, most of the posts i looked at were very dated. Anyways, thanks for looking!


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22395632 - 10/17/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think there is probably a lot of variety between b+ strains from different vendors. I have had good luck with B+ so far.


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: Bozko]
    #22395641 - 10/17/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When I worked with b+ I never had any negative experiences.


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: puff4200]
    #22395718 - 10/17/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Replace "B+" in your original post with "cubensis" and the answer is yes.


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22395778 - 10/17/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Might just be because b+ is one of the most commonly grown varieties by noobs so there's a bigger chances of complaints about potency being on forums.  I still won't fuck with it though.


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22395869 - 10/17/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

a)  Strain thread
b)  It is know different varieties have been sold as B+ and it is unlikely that what is sold as B+ is all the same spore lineage.  Given that B+ = n00b strain with very few if any definining characteristics I'm aware of, I wouldn't be suprised if most vendors don't give a flying fuck what B+ is and just sell prints of their fastest and most prolific isolates as B+.  If you're a vendor and selling some weaksauce "B+" genetics, you've basically signed your own PR deathwarrant.
c)  At any rate, it should be domesticated, so MS results should be solid.  Sporadic bad results may be the nature of MS.  Consistent bad results are probably the result of some failure in cultivation technique (which includes the techniques by which the vendor made the syringe.)
d)  Isolating random stuff on agar probably won't result in significantly better results unless a dirty syringe was the problem to start with.  Even finding a clone that really outdoes a good multispore run has been difficult IME.  Finding good shit takes time.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22397126 - 10/18/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn well hopefully the print i get turns out to be a nice variety, i ordered from one of the free spore rings that relies on donations so i don't get much choice in what i get. I'd just hate to spend a ton of time getting the (likely dirty) print clean and strong on agar, making a LI with that clean culture, waiting for jars to colonize and then fruit only to have the B+ crap out non-actives. Idk i guess I'll just have to take my chances. Next print i get though i think ill try Cambo's, GT or KSSS. Thanks everyone!


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22397166 - 10/18/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

big mushrooms, less potency by weight, weaker flushes


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: micro]
    #22398814 - 10/18/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It'll probably be easily cleaned within one transfer.  I think spores to agar is the way to go.  The water in the syringe can spread shit around in an annoying way.

I think your chance of getting something good is as good or better than with any random cube.  I mean, it's domesticated.  Order something oddball next time, more likely printed by a vet than a n00b.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22398982 - 10/18/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

FWIW

all b+. all depends how you grow it imo











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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: newrook]
    #22399099 - 10/18/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Except for when it's genetics, then it doesn't matter how you grow it.


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Re: Is the B+ commonly having dud/very weak flushes true? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22399135 - 10/18/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Order something oddball next time, more likely printed by a vet than a n00b.



Damn i didn't even consider that. its free so i cant complain with what imna get.  :/ but i think i'll be okay (im a complete noob, starting my first grow when these get here) hopefully hours of research on agar/strain isolation will prep me for the real thing. Thanks for the responses everyone


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