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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22436497 - 10/26/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm asking you to show us where they explicitly stated that fully auto weapons are not covered by the 2nd amendment.




The well regulated militia part. :rolleyes:


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436509 - 10/26/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
So much for law abiding gun owners.




Law abiding gun owners are aware the rights mentioned in the bill of rights are inalienable. They don't exist simply because they're written down.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22436512 - 10/26/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

fact:

the courts decide. you can debate them. you can protest.

ultimately the courts still decide what's constitutional and what's not, you know, about the "well regulated" part.

again law trumps constitution.

you know what trumps law?

WAR :evil:


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22436529 - 10/26/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The courts have found that there is no right to own an automatic weapon.

http://volokh.com/files/hamblen.pdf
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In United States v. Gilbert, 286 Fed. Appx. 383, 2008 WL 2740453 (9th Cir. July 15, 2008), the Ninth Circuit approved a jury instruction that an individual does not have a Second Amendment right to possess a machine gun or a short-barreled rifle. The court explained that under Heller, "individuals still do not have the right to possess machineguns or short-barreled rifles, as Gilbert did ..." The Petitioner argues that the limitations placed on the Second Amendment right to bear arms by the majority opinion in Heller can not square with the Court's earlier decision in Miller. Whatever merit there is to that argument, however, this Court is bound by the Heller opinion as written.




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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436530 - 10/26/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hence why saw'd off shotguns are illegal. and mini-guns and other such military ordinance.

WHAAA WHAAAAAAA

and where's Shithead? i want a war damn it, i say!


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436541 - 10/26/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The people say differently.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22436549 - 10/26/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
So much for law abiding gun owners.




Law abiding gun owners are aware the rights mentioned in the bill of rights are inalienable. They don't exist simply because they're written down.




Law abiding gun owners register their guns. It's the law.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436552 - 10/26/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
The courts have found that there is no conditional right to own an automatic weapon.

http://volokh.com/files/hamblen.pdf
Quote:

In United States v. Gilbert, 286 Fed. Appx. 383, 2008 WL 2740453 (9th Cir. July 15, 2008), the Ninth Circuit approved a jury instruction that an individual does not have a Second Amendment right to possess a machine gun or a short-barreled rifle. The court explained that under Heller, "individuals still do not have the right to possess machineguns or short-barreled rifles, as Gilbert did ..." The Petitioner argues that the limitations placed on the Second Amendment right to bear arms by the majority opinion in Heller can not square with the Court's earlier decision in Miller. Whatever merit there is to that argument, however, this Court is bound by the Heller opinion as written.







Ninth Circuit? The most overturned of the circuit courts?

Your desperation reeks. Let me know when the Supremes get to it.

Further, how do you not know the difference between a 'jury instruction' and a 'decision/ruling'? They aren't the same thing. How do you, who talks so much, know so little?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436556 - 10/26/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
So much for law abiding gun owners.




Law abiding gun owners are aware the rights mentioned in the bill of rights are inalienable. They don't exist simply because they're written down.




Law abiding gun owners register their guns. It's the law.




:lolsy:

Where you live perhaps. I've never lived in a state that requires a gun be registered. Edit: At the time I lived there.

Each statement you make is more stupid than the last.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


Edited by luvdemshrooms (10/26/15 03:56 PM)


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436563 - 10/26/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Law abiding gun owners register their guns. It's the law.




Take a look, then weep.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/03/gun-registration-myth-debunked/


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #22436566 - 10/26/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22436569 - 10/26/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
So much for law abiding gun owners.




Law abiding gun owners are aware the rights mentioned in the bill of rights are inalienable. They don't exist simply because they're written down.




Law abiding gun owners register their guns. It's the law.




:lolsy:

Where you live perhaps. I've never lived in a state that requires a gun be registered.

Each statement you make is more stupid than the last.




Actually, I just looked. Not in Maryland or Virginia.

Fuck, you say some dumb-ass shit.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods] * 1
    #22436573 - 10/26/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.




The irony, its
palpable


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22436576 - 10/26/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

he's also kinda just a big walking appeal to authority with signs posted at every tooth.

and ya, the people say, Shithead...all of them...they all say differently.

amazing how the system works. :cookiemonster:


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods] * 1
    #22436577 - 10/26/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.




So you were wrong, but I'm the troll.

Perhaps were you not so quick to toss out the insults, the wouldn't bother you so.

:lolsy:

Each time you get on this topic you make a fool of yourself. Perhaps it's time to talk about a topic you know, like... well shit.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: myc_check1212] * 1
    #22436579 - 10/26/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

myc_check1212 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.




The irony, its
palpable




Yup. I guess it's OK if he does it though.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22436582 - 10/26/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ya koods is a shit inspector.

and you are?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22436583 - 10/26/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You absolutely need to register a handgun in Maryland.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22436586 - 10/26/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

myc_check1212 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.




The irony, its
palpable



appeal - to - authority.

huge - leaps - of logic.

con-sti-tu-tion-al-ists.

although law still trumps logic, everytime


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: myc_check1212] * 1
    #22436590 - 10/26/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

myc_check1212 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Jesus Christ you are a troll. Every single post you make includes an insult.




The irony, its
palpable




Really? I don't think you know what irony means.


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