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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435750 - 10/26/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Which part says that?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435763 - 10/26/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The legal standard for the second amendment is the weapon cannot be "unusually dangerous" and must be in "common usage."


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435766 - 10/26/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So I can't own a musket?


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Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435776 - 10/26/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shiithead said:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Which part says that?




The Supreme Court has the final word.

Your right to bear arms isn't being infringed. You can own a gun. You can't own any damn gun you please and of course everything needs to be "well regulated" or do you not believe in the second amendment?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435778 - 10/26/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So I can't own a musket?




Pretty sure those have been in common usage and they are not unusually dangerous. The are unusually not dangerous.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435789 - 10/26/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The people have the final word.

And it is talking about the militia. It is also talking about the right of the people to keep and bear arms and that fact not being infringed. There is no disclaimer. There is a period.

Any law that says otherwise is unconstitutional and invalid.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435811 - 10/26/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes. The people have the final word. The people elect the government. That is the way American democracy works. If you don't like it, you can always leave.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435826 - 10/26/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As a gun owner you are part of the "militia" of citizens with guns the founders imagined and it says you should be well regulated. It's fucking amazing how you guys gloss over that part.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22435831 - 10/26/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You compare guns to toys and you expect credibility :lol: :greatjob:


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435852 - 10/26/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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As a gun owner you are part of the "militia" of citizens with guns the founders imagined and it says you should be well regulated. It's fucking amazing how you guys gloss over that part.




It says a well regulated militia, as in trained. Not a regulated militia...


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435864 - 10/26/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

koods said:
As a gun owner you are part of the "militia" of citizens with guns the founders imagined and it says you should be well regulated. It's fucking amazing how you guys gloss over that part.




It says a well regulated militia, as in trained. Not a regulated militia...




Where does it say trained? It says regulated.

But ok, let's entertain your premise. Do you think everyone should be trained before they can own a gun?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435873 - 10/26/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

reg·u·late
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb

past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated

control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.

synonyms: control, adjust, manage


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435878 - 10/26/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you, I know what regulate means. You should read it again. I don't see the word "trained" anywhere.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435885 - 10/26/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And it doesn't even say guns. It says arms. Arms could be any tool of war. It covers all arms. There is no disclaimer that says *unless technology provides something not in common usage or unusually dangerous.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435929 - 10/26/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lol. So you also believe individuals can own a nuclear tipped ICBM.

Please, I love when gun nuts rhetoric leads them down this path because it belies their true nuttiness.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435941 - 10/26/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If the individual is part of the well regulated militia then I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to. Do you??


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22435952 - 10/26/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lol

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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435962 - 10/26/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How many law abiding gun owners do you see shooting innocent people?


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22435973 - 10/26/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone is law abiding until they break the law.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22435984 - 10/26/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A law abiding person wouldn't break the law though.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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