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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22431363 - 10/25/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Too bad it wasn't about pot.
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22431370 - 10/25/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Say they do ban guns. Say the government doesn't become tyrannical.

Criminals will start robbing others at knife-point? No?





Yes. Better than gun point because it results in FAR less deaths. Look at the UK stats. 139 deaths in the entire year.



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How will businesses defend themselves??




If need be, they won't. Things can be replace. People can't.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22431384 - 10/25/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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so are you saying people need to stick loaded guns in the beds with their children


liberals really are fucking retarded arent they


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22431387 - 10/25/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also weapons do not have high capacity rounds. The magazine holds the rounds.


uhhh... isnt the magazine part of the weapon?





nope

is a battery a part of the flashlight?
can the battery be removed and discarded from the flashlight?

why are you arguing about something you know nothing about?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22431437 - 10/25/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ill keep my guns thanks....I use them as a source of food, a hobby, and they are great fun!  I love teaching anyone to shoot, especially the ones that are terrified of them! Government not being able to do their job is blaming it on guns, so many liberals so few bullets!


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Davesnothere]
    #22431448 - 10/25/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ill keep my guns thanks....I use them as a source of food, a hobby, and they are great fun!  I love teaching anyone to shoot, especially the ones that are terrified of them! Government not being able to do their job is blaming it on guns, so many liberals so few bullets!





liberals say you're supposed to let your kids teeth on your firearms


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22431450 - 10/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also weapons do not have high capacity rounds. The magazine holds the rounds.


uhhh... isnt the magazine part of the weapon?





nope

is a battery a part of the flashlight?
can the battery be removed and discarded from the flashlight?

why are you arguing about something you know nothing about?


that analogy is false. a battery is simply something you can take out in and out an electric device. it doesn't necessarily determine how much power it is getting in the case of most batteries.

in the case of magazines, some have more bullets than others.

again, I am not really worried so much about this particular argument. I think all guns should be banned.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22431451 - 10/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Motor vehicles, tobacco, and alcohol are all federally regulated and they kill way more people than guns have been used to kill, intentional or not.



They are all regulated because they are dangerous. If you want to drive a car , you need a license and insurance. Let's do the same thing for guns.





are you once again falsely claiming that guns arent regulated?


as I recall, criminals and teens are allowed to drive cars, if we push for
licensing should we allow criminals and teens to buy handguns?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22431460 - 10/25/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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so are you saying people need to stick loaded guns in the beds with their children


liberals really are fucking retarded arent they


No, we are saying that guns need to be regulated the same way that teddy bears are. Guns obviously end up in the hands up irresponsible, mentally ill owners.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22431475 - 10/25/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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are you once again falsely claiming that guns arent regulated?


as I recall, criminals and teens are allowed to drive cars, if we push for
licensing should we allow criminals and teens to buy handguns?



Gun regulations need to include a medical background check.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22431499 - 10/25/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You don't think guns are regulated? Go buy a suppressed .308 or cut the barrel of your shotgun and show those off. See what happens. Weld together your own shotgun and see what happens when you bring it to a firearms dealer. Our a worked receiver into an ar to enable full auto and being it to your local range.

Go bring a 14 year old top a licensed firearm dealer to buy a gun see how far you get.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #22431501 - 10/25/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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morrowasted said:

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Also weapons do not have high capacity rounds. The magazine holds the rounds.


uhhh... isnt the magazine part of the weapon?





nope

is a battery a part of the flashlight?
can the battery be removed and discarded from the flashlight?

why are you arguing about something you know nothing about?


that analogy is false. a battery is simply something you can take out in and out an electric device. it doesn't necessarily determine how much power it is getting in the case of most batteries.

in the case of magazines, some have more bullets than others.

again, I am not really worried so much about this particular argument. I think all guns should be banned.





are you trying to say that the magazine determines the amount of power a firearm has
but a battery does not? well it seems that you've made yet another false claim

milliamp hours... let's look at the batteries my flashlight uses


this one says it's 5000mha




that means it lasts a lot longer than this one at 2200mha



it doesnt stop there though, there's a peak discharge rate measured in amps, on
those 18650 batteries, some have a 20a discharge rate, some have 25a, some as
much as 40a peak discharge rates

so yeah, the batteries in a flashlight certainly do determine the power it has so
a rechargeable battery is no different from a magazine in that respect



once more, maybe you should learn what the fuck you're talking about before you
try to argue against it... in fact, if a person doesnt put a magazine in a gun
does that mean the magazine is still super powerful? what about the gun, how
lethal is it without the magazine, I mean sure, I could beat someone to death
with an empty gun but I can do that with pretty much any non-gun object too


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22431509 - 10/25/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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are you once again falsely claiming that guns arent regulated?


as I recall, criminals and teens are allowed to drive cars, if we push for
licensing should we allow criminals and teens to buy handguns?



Gun regulations need to include a medical background check.





so if I've had the flu then I shouldnt be able to buy a gun. shouldnt medical
background checks apply to all vehicles as well?


if you guys are so terrified of guns, why not move to places where they're banned
or heavily restricted


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22431544 - 10/25/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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are you trying to say that the magazine determines the amount of power a firearm has
but a battery does not? well it seems that you've made yet another false claim

milliamp hours... let's look at the batteries my flashlight uses


this one says it's 5000mha




that means it lasts a lot longer than this one at 2200mha



it doesnt stop there though, there's a peak discharge rate measured in amps, on
those 18650 batteries, some have a 20a discharge rate, some have 25a, some as
much as 40a peak discharge rates

so yeah, the batteries in a flashlight certainly do determine the power it has so
a rechargeable battery is no different from a magazine in that respect



once more, maybe you should learn what the fuck you're talking about before you
try to argue against it... in fact, if a person doesnt put a magazine in a gun
does that mean the magazine is still super powerful? what about the gun, how
lethal is it without the magazine, I mean sure, I could beat someone to death
with an empty gun but I can do that with pretty much any non-gun object too



In the case of a battery determining how long an something will last, the distinction is harmless.

But having more bullets in a magzine allows you to shoot longer without changing it.

Again: I THINK ALL GUNS SHOULD BE BANNED


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22431550 - 10/25/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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morrowasted said:
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Prisoner#1 said:



are you once again falsely claiming that guns arent regulated?


as I recall, criminals and teens are allowed to drive cars, if we push for
licensing should we allow criminals and teens to buy handguns?



Gun regulations need to include a medical background check.





so if I've had the flu then I shouldnt be able to buy a gun. shouldnt medical
background checks apply to all vehicles as well?


if you guys are so terrified of guns, why not move to places where they're banned
or heavily restricted


clearly you are being intentionally daft. you know what I mean when I say medical background checks. I do not care about the flu. I care about schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #22431594 - 10/25/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Prisoner#1 said:

are you trying to say that the magazine determines the amount of power a firearm has
but a battery does not? well it seems that you've made yet another false claim

milliamp hours... let's look at the batteries my flashlight uses


this one says it's 5000mha




that means it lasts a lot longer than this one at 2200mha



it doesnt stop there though, there's a peak discharge rate measured in amps, on
those 18650 batteries, some have a 20a discharge rate, some have 25a, some as
much as 40a peak discharge rates

so yeah, the batteries in a flashlight certainly do determine the power it has so
a rechargeable battery is no different from a magazine in that respect



once more, maybe you should learn what the fuck you're talking about before you
try to argue against it... in fact, if a person doesnt put a magazine in a gun
does that mean the magazine is still super powerful? what about the gun, how
lethal is it without the magazine, I mean sure, I could beat someone to death
with an empty gun but I can do that with pretty much any non-gun object too



In the case of a battery determining how long an something will last, the distinction is harmless.





is it harmless or is that you just trying to make an argument when you still dont
know shit about the topic... I seem to recall a large number of news stories
about people being seriously injured and even killed because of the batteries in
their electronics



http://www.androidos.in/2010/12/motorola-droid-2-explodes-during-call/



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But having more bullets in a magzine allows you to shoot longer without changing it.




which is a great benefit

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Again: I THINK ALL GUNS SHOULD BE BANNED





and that's why only 6 people here bother to actually listen to you while 100,000 laugh


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Shiithead]
    #22432021 - 10/25/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why? How will that lower deaths? All those other products are regulated but do you really see regulation saving any lives? Do you see regulations keeping any of those products out of the hands of children?




Yes. That is exactly what regulations do and they save lives all the time. You have to be ignorant beyond belief to not realize that the doubling of the human life span in the past 100 years has much to do with regulating things like water quality, plumbing systems, building codes, medical licensing, automobile safety standards, compulsory primary education, pollution regulations, etc...


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: morrowasted]
    #22432119 - 10/25/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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are you once again falsely claiming that guns arent regulated?


as I recall, criminals and teens are allowed to drive cars, if we push for
licensing should we allow criminals and teens to buy handguns?



Gun regulations need to include a medical background check.




Is that your answer to health care costs? Let those with health problems be killed off by thugs?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22432273 - 10/25/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Why? How will that lower deaths? All those other products are regulated but do you really see regulation saving any lives? Do you see regulations keeping any of those products out of the hands of children?




Yes. That is exactly what regulations do and they save lives all the time. You have to be ignorant beyond belief to not realize that the doubling of the human life span in the past 100 years has much to do with regulating things like water quality, plumbing systems, building codes, medical licensing, automobile safety standards, compulsory primary education, pollution regulations, etc...





so what regulation is responsible for the continued reduction in deaths by
firearms since 2004 when the assault weapons ban expired even though that ban
only affected the styling of firearms? who's lives do regulations on firearms
save, the lives of criminals?


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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
    #22432478 - 10/25/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How about drug laws? Regulations have done a good job at keeping people from dying on them and over them, let alone getting a hold of them right??

You can make drugs so easy. You can make guns easy. There is no point in federal or even state regulations. Leave it up to the people to sort it out. That's the only way it works here in reality.


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