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akira_akuma
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huh? does not compute. do you have any problems going on at this moment? any drugs that you wish for more information on?
cultivation tips?
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luvdemshrooms
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akira_akuma said: does not compute
No surprise there.
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get a room
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akira_akuma
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Ezuma] 1
#22424341 - 10/23/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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we always clash. he has a hard-on for clowns.
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Prisoner#1
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morrowasted said: In summary:
550 people died of murder total from all causes in 2011 in the UK. that is .000000859375% of the population of the UK. 39 of them were killed by guns during the entire year. That is 6.09375e-7% of the population. In the USA 14,612 people were murdered in 2011. That is .00004580564% of the population. TWELVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR of those 14,612 people died from gunshot wounds.
let's do the math
there are 300 million legally owned, civilian firearms in the US and only 9000 murders by firearms, 12,000 total deaths that are firearm related, that's 0.004% of the legally own firearms have killed someone and only 0.003% being used to murder someone... that's extremely low given the number of legally owned guns
now, I know that the raw number of 39 people being killed int he UK seems like it's super low but given that the UK is a fucking island where they've had a complete and outright ban on civilian ownership of these weapons, meaning there are 0 legally owned firearms in the UK, that means that the relation of legally owned firearms to murders by firearms is 67849335821668340095127% higher than it is in the US
can you guess as to how many of those US deaths are criminals killing other criminals, law abiding citizens killing violent criminals that intended to kill them, cops killing violent criminals because well, violent criminals need a fucking killing... let the violent thugs fucking die
unless of course you support murderers and rapists and child molesters which seems to be typical of the people that want to ban guns, it makes me wonder why they want guns so banned so badly, do they not want to be the 'victims' when they're committing the crimes?
http://nypost.com/2015/10/23/burglar-climbs-naked-into-couples-bed-is-chased-at-gunpoint/
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1] 4
#22425949 - 10/24/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I could honestly care less about murders and violence with guns. I own guns for one single reason, hunting.there have been years where I did not but a single pound of meat. It is simply better food that I can personally pay my karmic dues on by honoring my kill, and our costs less than a dollar per pound for highest quality. There is the advantage that off my house were to be terrorized while I'm home (unlikely, especially while home) that the universally known shik-chink sound of cycling a round in a 12 gauge shotgun should be efficient alert to get the fuck out. If not then I will share the knowledge that it'd I can hit a duck mid air at full speed I most definitely can shoot this motherfucker that's in my house. But this is NOT the reason I own guns never has been never will be. They will never take my guns away without me expending all my ammo first, you take my guns, you take my family's food. That is war.
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: nuentoter]
#22425982 - 10/24/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This US citizen can agree with the Canadian, this place is goin down fast! Lock and load my friends!
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Prisoner#1
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Davesnothere said: This US citizen can agree with the Canadian, this place is goin down fast! Lock and load my friends!
going down fast?
in the UK, Canada, Australia and many parts of europe, the violent crime rates are increasing despite the fact that they're passing more restrictive laws and fighting to remove guns from the hands of law abiding citizens because in those countries, it is not a right. in the US, something the media doesnt like to report is that our violent crimes are falling dispite the fact that each year more than a million more guns are purchased by law abiding citizens
Cities such as Chicago and Detroit which have always had an extremely high violent crime rate have both seen sharp declines in violent crime rates, in Chicago it's because the US Supreme court told chicago they have to start issuing gun permits for concealed carry, in detroit it came after the city's police chief mad the announcement that 'the police are not going to arrive in time to help you, if you want to be saved, buy a gun and defend yourself'. Florida and other states saw a sharp decline in violent crimes when the state started their 'will issue' concealed carry permit policy
so what exactly is 'going down fast', the bullshit claims that lliberals keep pushing? the violent crime rates? the support for the gun grabber agenda? the obama fan boys on bernie sanders' dick. what isnt going down is the violent crime in countries where guns are banned or heavily restricted
it's time to face the facts, guns reduce crime, often times by eliminating the criminals, fewer living criminals means fewer to teach the trade to the new generation and fewer to commit the crimes themselves and those that arent completely stupid are feeling the risk isnt worth it
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luvdemboomers
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22426089 - 10/24/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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going down the shitter
its no longer the country it used to be
dems and liberals shitting over any right they can because it's "for our own good"
thats my take anyways
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Ezuma
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Davesnothere said: This US citizen can agree with the Canadian, this place is goin down fast! Lock and load my friends!
going down fast?
in the UK, Canada, Australia and many parts of europe, the violent crime rates are increasing despite the fact that they're passing more restrictive laws and fighting to remove guns from the hands of law abiding citizens because in those countries, it is not a right. in the US, something the media doesnt like to report is that our violent crimes are falling dispite the fact that each year more than a million more guns are purchased by law abiding citizens
Cities such as Chicago and Detroit which have always had an extremely high violent crime rate have both seen sharp declines in violent crime rates, in Chicago it's because the US Supreme court told chicago they have to start issuing gun permits for concealed carry, in detroit it came after the city's police chief mad the announcement that 'the police are not going to arrive in time to help you, if you want to be saved, buy a gun and defend yourself'. Florida and other states saw a sharp decline in violent crimes when the state started their 'will issue' concealed carry permit policy
so what exactly is 'going down fast', the bullshit claims that lliberals keep pushing? the violent crime rates? the support for the gun grabber agenda? the obama fan boys on bernie sanders' dick. what isnt going down is the violent crime in countries where guns are banned or heavily restricted
it's time to face the facts, guns reduce crime, often times by eliminating the criminals, fewer living criminals means fewer to teach the trade to the new generation and fewer to commit the crimes themselves and those that arent completely stupid are feeling the risk isnt worth it
where do you get that from? The violent crime rate in Canada has been going down.
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luvdemboomers said: going down the shitter
its no longer the country it used to be
dems and liberals shitting over any right they can because it's "for our own good"
thats my take anyways
For our own good and "For the Children"
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Well, this thread is over. Hitler reference has been made
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
#22427117 - 10/24/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Davesnothere said: This US citizen can agree with the Canadian, this place is goin down fast! Lock and load my friends!
going down fast?
in the UK, Canada, Australia and many parts of europe, the violent crime rates are increasing despite the fact that they're passing more restrictive laws and fighting to remove guns from the hands of law abiding citizens because in those countries, it is not a right. in the US, something the media doesnt like to report is that our violent crimes are falling dispite the fact that each year more than a million more guns are purchased by law abiding citizens
Cities such as Chicago and Detroit which have always had an extremely high violent crime rate have both seen sharp declines in violent crime rates, in Chicago it's because the US Supreme court told chicago they have to start issuing gun permits for concealed carry, in detroit it came after the city's police chief mad the announcement that 'the police are not going to arrive in time to help you, if you want to be saved, buy a gun and defend yourself'. Florida and other states saw a sharp decline in violent crimes when the state started their 'will issue' concealed carry permit policy
so what exactly is 'going down fast', the bullshit claims that lliberals keep pushing? the violent crime rates? the support for the gun grabber agenda? the obama fan boys on bernie sanders' dick. what isnt going down is the violent crime in countries where guns are banned or heavily restricted
it's time to face the facts, guns reduce crime, often times by eliminating the criminals, fewer living criminals means fewer to teach the trade to the new generation and fewer to commit the crimes themselves and those that arent completely stupid are feeling the risk isnt worth it
The lib stream media won't give this narrative, but it is the truth.


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I won't disagree with that but are you just gonna let it slide that he made up bull shit about other countries crime rates? Canada's crime rate has not increased. Deal with it.
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burgerbrain
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: Ezuma]
#22427156 - 10/24/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I won't disagree with that but are you just gonna let it slide that he made up bull shit about other countries crime rates? Canada's crime rate has not increased. Deal with it.
This graph doesn't look so great.
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burgerbrain said:
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Ezuma said: I won't disagree with that but are you just gonna let it slide that he made up bull shit about other countries crime rates? Canada's crime rate has not increased. Deal with it.
This graph doesn't look so great.

That graph looks like total bullshit
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burgerbrain said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Davesnothere said: This US citizen can agree with the Canadian, this place is goin down fast! Lock and load my friends!
going down fast?
in the UK, Canada, Australia and many parts of europe, the violent crime rates are increasing despite the fact that they're passing more restrictive laws and fighting to remove guns from the hands of law abiding citizens because in those countries, it is not a right. in the US, something the media doesnt like to report is that our violent crimes are falling dispite the fact that each year more than a million more guns are purchased by law abiding citizens
Cities such as Chicago and Detroit which have always had an extremely high violent crime rate have both seen sharp declines in violent crime rates, in Chicago it's because the US Supreme court told chicago they have to start issuing gun permits for concealed carry, in detroit it came after the city's police chief mad the announcement that 'the police are not going to arrive in time to help you, if you want to be saved, buy a gun and defend yourself'. Florida and other states saw a sharp decline in violent crimes when the state started their 'will issue' concealed carry permit policy
so what exactly is 'going down fast', the bullshit claims that lliberals keep pushing? the violent crime rates? the support for the gun grabber agenda? the obama fan boys on bernie sanders' dick. what isnt going down is the violent crime in countries where guns are banned or heavily restricted
it's time to face the facts, guns reduce crime, often times by eliminating the criminals, fewer living criminals means fewer to teach the trade to the new generation and fewer to commit the crimes themselves and those that arent completely stupid are feeling the risk isnt worth it
The lib stream media won't give this narrative, but it is the truth.

I look at that graph and think that the 1994 assault weapons ban worked great.
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
#22427281 - 10/24/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: I look at that graph and think that the 1994 assault weapons ban worked great.
"When the government makes guns illegal, only criminals – and the government itself – will own firearms. The result is less freedom and less safety for everyone else, i.e. law-abiding citizens."
"Gun control advocates tell us that removing guns from society makes us safer. If that were the case why do the worst shootings happen in gun free zones, like schools? And while accidents do happen, aggressive, terroristic shootings like this are unheard of at gun and knife shows, or military bases. It bears repeating that an armed society truly is a polite society."
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koods said: Well, this thread is over. Hitler reference has been made
"The fact is that firearm technology exists. It cannot be uninvented. As long as there is metalworking and welding capability, it matters not what gun laws are imposed upon law-abiding people. Those that wish to have guns, and disregard the law, will have guns. Gun control makes violence safer and more effective for the aggressive, whether the aggressor is a terrorist or a government.
History shows us that another tragedy of gun laws is genocide. Hitler, for example, knew well that in order to enact his “final solution,” disarmament was a necessary precursor. While it is not always the case that an unarmed populace WILL be killed by their government, if a government is going to kill its own people, it MUST disarm them first so they cannot fight back. Disarmament must happen at a time when overall trust in government is high, and under the guise of safety for the people, or perhaps the children. Knowing that any government, no matter how idealistically started, can become despotic, the Founding Fathers enabled the future freedom of Americans by enacting the second amendment." - Ron Paul
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luvdemboomers
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yep, not to mention manufacturing firearms is not that hard. Ammunition even easier. Even if the impossible happens and all firearms are confiscated, which will never happen without a 21st century holocaust, there would still be a black market supply of them.
There's plenty of people out there manufacturing ar lower receivers in their garage with a 500 dollar mill. Hell now there is a 1200 dollar 3d printer that is specifically designed to do this.
We gonna ban mills and 3d printers too?
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Re: The 2nd ammendment [Re: koods]
#22427687 - 10/24/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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1994 Assault Weapons ban worked great? What about when it expired in 2004-What are you going to attribute to the lack of violence now? LOL Liberals.
Here's some perspective for you:
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akira_akuma
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that is a really retarded infograph. abortions? 
but yeah, most shootings with assault weapons are done in coordinated mass shootings which are obviously rarer than smaller shootings done with traditionally smaller firearms, why? because duh, they aren't as coordinated to achieve a high kill count. they're shootings of happenstance.
plus less people own assault weapons for obvious reasons...they don't fucking need one, people are usually fine with a rifle or shotgun or handgun.
so that graph...extremely stupid and one sided.
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