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Re: why poo? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22395238 - 10/17/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lol poo out the horses ass is pretty nasty. But for the hobby, I've had no problems. It's just like fluffy soil/ground up itty bitty straw flakes.. Dry hpoo smells kinda like cinnamon sometimes. I wish I could explain why.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22395515 - 10/17/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've used manure for about 7 years now in my subs. I also use coir/verm/gypsum in my mix along with the manure. I wouldn't trade my shit for anything :rockon:


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Re: why poo? [Re: Stuey1]
    #22395547 - 10/17/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck I will grow from any substrate at least once. For me its a balance of ease of prep, cost to obtain, ease to obtain,  and yield. Wheat rye oats or millets spawned to coir poo verm straw worm castings seems to fit the bill. But any combo also is fine. If I'm short on time and have lots of spawn bucket some coir verm is too easy. But mostly I like to screw around with stuff. Quart size bulk cakes colonzed under sterile conditions have been pretty fun for the last year. Whole wheat flour with straw in pp5s are cheap easy and yield well. Got some colonizing right now.

I don't like to pay for grain so rice is too pricey for me. But there is no hate for it from me.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #22395946 - 10/17/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As long as a casing layer is used with poo, the mushroom is gonna grow off a single fiber of mycellium growing through the casing and will never have touched what's under it.  It's really irrelevant.

There are a lot of dedicated Poo users who seem to feel it's better in terms of potency and/or yield.  Definitely worth a shot.  Coir users arguement is that there is no benefit to other substrates, and they only increase prep time/difficulty and contam risk.  For a first grow, I think coir is best.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22395966 - 10/17/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Coir users arguement is that there is no benefit to other substrates, and they only increase prep time/difficulty and contam risk.



As a coir user, that's not at all my argument.  I see the benefits in poo and would use it if I had it readily available where I am because I believe it does help yields, though maybe not potency.  I use coir because it's easy to prep, it doesn't care if you sterilize it or pasteurize it, it doesn't smell like anything if you let it get wet and sit out accidentally (not that you should do this, since it's so easy not to), and it's pretty resistant to contamination unless your spawn is bad.  It's also easy to store, never seen a shit-brick compressed down to 650g of expandable awesomeness.  For a lot of people it's easier to source, ironically, than something that just naturally falls out of animals asses.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22397072 - 10/18/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Is there even a noticeable difference in potency between cube varieties or substrate?

I know smaller mushrooms have more potency by weight


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Re: why poo? [Re: micro]
    #22397186 - 10/18/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Is there even a noticeable difference in potency between cube varieties or substrate?

I know smaller mushrooms have more potency by weight




Grow some albino penis envy on any substrate then tell us what you think.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22398364 - 10/18/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd like to compare ape on different substrates


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Re: why poo? [Re: azur]
    #22398517 - 10/18/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

why APE in particular?


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Re: why poo? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22398623 - 10/18/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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why APE in particular?




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Re: why poo? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22398652 - 10/18/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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why APE in particular?




:trippinbawelz:



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Re: why poo? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22398664 - 10/18/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

APE are stronger than that.  I have a hard time getting some people to finish a gram worth of tea.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22398675 - 10/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not bother by using poo one bit. I think I might for my next tub. I live next to agricultural center and I am SURE they won't give a shit if I take some. No pun intended.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22398713 - 10/18/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure no pun was intended?  That was a pretty classic pun.  I doubt it was fully unintended.


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Re: why poo? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22398770 - 10/18/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not until after I typed it... and I would have have started that they wouldn't give a shit even if it wasn't in regards to shit. So no, the pun was not intended.


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Re: why poo? [Re: micro]
    #22399452 - 10/18/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, this is what I've found works the best:

Materials:

All American Pressure Cooker
Autoclavable bags with self-healing inoculation port and .2um filter patches
Heat sealer
Autoclavable bottles with septum lids
Heat sealer
Glass syringes (these are reusable and autoclavable)
Parboiled rice (cheap as hell in any grocery store)
Spore syringes (you can go by prints as well but it is up to you to ensure sterility)
Plastic bins and either saran wrap or plastic sheeting, depending on the size of the bins
Peat and lime (to make casing, a la Stamets et al.)
Heater
Paper clips
Rubbing alcohol (preferably ethanol) either 70% or 91%
Spore syringes
egular commercial bleach

Optional materials:

Bale(s) of straw
Materials to make liquid media (I stole LB media from the lab I worked at but potato dextrose broth is better anyway)
Lots of plastic sheeting, staple gun, duct tape, mini hepa filter for room
Autoclave tape (useful when sterilizing liquids)
Bunsen burner
Glass petri dishes (or sterile disposable plastic ones)


Protocol:

Cook some parboiled rice using 3/4 of the water listed in the directions. The parboiled rice is precooked a bit and it comes out less sticky and more airy than brown rice
Put a liberal amount in the bags but not so much it is filled more than a third of the way up to the filter patch
Gently fold the top of the bag 1/2" down 4 or 5 times after letting the air out and secure them that way with a paper clip on each end
Sterilize for 90 minutes at 15 PSI (make sure it is there before counting)
Always let the PC cool before opening it up
Open it up and heat seal the bags close.  You will need to adjust the heat sealer so it won't burn the bag apart so practice with a test bag first a few times until you get the setting right
Once the bags all have a GOOD seal (if they split open they are unusable) then let them cool to room temperature on the inside as well as the outside
Clean a room with 2% commercial bleach (probably should do this beforehand; we always brought the pressure cooker into a cleaned room before opening it and heat sealed it in there)
Optionally the clean room can be lined with the plastic sheeting (see the positive pressure flow room link in my sig and the optional materials applicable)
In the clean room, with either clean gloves or scrubbed hands, wipe down the inoculation site with your ethanol and then knock it up with the spore syringe
With the bunsen burner (optional) or a flame, sterilize the syringe and replace the cap and let it cool before knocking up the next bag.  think we only used 1 or 2 cc's per bag; you don't need a lot
Colonize he bags at 80F or so. I was really ghetto about this and used a space heater in a closet and opened the door a certain amount to control the heat
Let the bags colonize to about 15% and then break it apart and mix around the mycelium so it will colonize exponentially faster




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Re: why poo? [Re: azur]
    #22401392 - 10/19/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Manure is free (or cheap!), and I really believe that it has better results. If you use properly aged stuff, it doesn't smell bad.


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Re: why poo? [Re: thetechnician]
    #22401397 - 10/19/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

the or cheap in parentheses is scaring me, dude

what are you following around with a baggie :c

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Re: why poo? [Re: micro]
    #22401405 - 10/19/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

azur - sorry threads move so fast in here

but the last thing i said was i'll break it out into a new thread

it's the second link in my sig though

i figure if nothing else people can pull some nuances out of there


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