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OfflineDannyBoy
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Calming the Mind Fuck...
    #2239311 - 01/13/04 03:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

There are many elements about tripping that psychonauts enjoy. I for one do not like the "mind fuck" element where your mind can grab random or concerned thoughts/emotions and run off with them with you having no control, and sometimes it can pull you to very unwanted places.

I was just wondering if there were any combinations with mushrooms that will help push the mental aspect to a more peaceful place?

Please exlude the opitons of pot (no can do) and ecstasy (retired user...lol)

Any suggestions would be great. Btw, would Xanax help?


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2239413 - 01/13/04 03:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm. How do you react usually to depressants (Benzos, Alcohol, Opiates?)....I would say Cocaine because it gives you the sense of well being that mindfucks usually completley take away. Either that or a benzo if your ok with depressants. I would even try an opiate, but a strong one like oxycontin swallowed for that sense of well being. The worst thing that Ive experienced and everyones body and chemistry is very different, is that stuff that makes you drowsey such as depressants can be horrible. But thats just me. Some people swear by it.
What you have to do is just learn by trial and error. Eventually you will find something that suits your mood and personality. No matter what anyone says that you should take, it's all personal preference, there are absolutely no definative answers. Good luck!


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2239436 - 01/13/04 04:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Its kinda hard to say you one part of a shroom trip but not another....Everything kinda comes in the one package. But I would recommend benzos such as valium and xanax to calm you down way more over cocaine or anything else for that matter. Anxiety is usually what the benzos are best for but it can take a little bit of the "mind fuck" edge off.....then again, nothing is guaranteed.


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: orizon]
    #2239525 - 01/13/04 04:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'd recommend meditation and a calm mind going into the trip...


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2239569 - 01/13/04 04:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A benzo can be nice if the mind racing is starting to bother you.


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2239757 - 01/13/04 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

my personal choice for a bad trip would be xanax,valium,klonopin,ativan. they all work extremly well.


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: billy cuts]
    #2239808 - 01/13/04 06:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I'd recommend meditation and a calm mind going into the trip...




I agree. I like to meditate as I'm taking the shrooms, usually in tea form. I'll sit cross legged on the floor with my mug in my hand, close my eyes and will the tea to take me where it will. I calm my mind and commit myself to experience the next few hours as they will come with the knowledge that even the hardest moments will pass. I like to thank the mushrooms for the experience before I have it. I find that this is all I need to ease into my trip, it doesn't mean I won't have moments that are difficult, but that I'm ready for it and I'm concious enough to know it will pass. I don't like to take prescription drugs to dull my shroom experience, I feel as though its a bit of a cop out. But to each their own. Whatever you do I hope it helps you get the most out of each trip.


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2240379 - 01/13/04 10:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

My friends and I call mind fuck "The Thoughts." We trip so often together we can recognize when one of us is entering the realm of thought loops and can usually jump in and stop it before one of us gets in to deep.

Benzo can help relieve mind fuck symtoms... but I find the best way to avoid the thoughts is to keep your trip on the surface. If you keep yourself busy/entertained enough you're far less likely to get lost in your thoughts and emotions.

When you feel yourself slipping away, speak up to a friend. Tell him to talk to you. Try and strike up a conversation on art or poetry. Keep your focus on the outside. If you're alone, try drawing, painting, playing a musical insturment.


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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: djd586]
    #2245506 - 01/16/04 05:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

benzos are great, yah, but as just a general tip:

I just posted this in OTD, but i'll say it again since its good to know..alot of people know that regular breathing is supposed to help you calm down, well it does...and there is a physiological basis for it.

Your Central/peripheral chemoreceptors watch for levels of co2 in your bloodstream and tissues. When you are breathing irregularly (like in an aroused state of anxiety), they will fire more, and it will actually produce more anxiety, so by calming and regulating your breathing, you can reduce the excess anxiety back to a level that is negotiable.

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Re: Calming the Mind Fuck... [Re: billy cuts]
    #2246420 - 01/16/04 05:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

My last trip, I went back behind a building where there are some woods and a lighted walkway, and sat on some rocks near a river and meditated for who knows how long!  :grin: Boy was that an experience.  I was able to go so deep, I lost all outside sensory perception.  I love taking a walk in somewhere natury while on shrooms.  Small streams and the sound of rushing water provide me with happy and insightful trips. (Not to mention all the animals I see come up to me... still trying to figure out if those racoons were real or imaginary.....)

On an unrelated note, I've never tried acid since its impossible to get around here, but can you do similar things on it?  Or is running off into the woods by yourself not as fun on acid ;p


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