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DieCommie

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I guess that makes you the same? A member of the flock is a member of the flock. A naked, willful thought-slave.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie]
#22395416 - 10/17/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yup. You're so right. I'm just a brainless sheep. Now you can tell all of your latte-sipping friends how you bested me on the interwebs.
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DieCommie

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I don't need too, we take it for granted.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie] 1
#22395419 - 10/17/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you want to define a 'soul' as the memory of a person you can but in reality when you die, your memories, body, conscience and everything that makes you you dies with it.
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DieCommie

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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly]
#22395425 - 10/17/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: If you want to define a 'soul' as the memory of a person you can but in reality when you die, your memories, body, conscience and everything that makes you you dies with it.
That is why the soul, and all spirit, is mortal. It is a transitory emergent property. But regardless, it is the same property that is observed by both non-believers and believers.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie]
#22395427 - 10/17/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: I don't need too, we take it for granted.
Good for you You're so cool and different. You should take a selfie to show how cool and different you are.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie]
#22395439 - 10/17/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I come and go from this site frequently and I'd be upset if I returned and you weren't still a regular poster. It's awesome to read the well thought out and highly informed discussion you participate in, even if your opposition only back peddles and never defends their position.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie]
#22395441 - 10/17/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay, so whatever you want to call a soul, you seem to still agree that there is no afterlife. If a memory of something is considered a soul then why couldn't my old guitar have a soul? I remember it.
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DieCommie

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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly]
#22395453 - 10/17/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: Okay, so whatever you want to call a soul, you seem to still agree that there is no afterlife. If a memory of something is considered a soul then why couldn't my old guitar have a soul? I remember it.
The guitar's spirit is that it is a guitar. Broken into chips, immolated in flame - the parts all still remain but the spirit is gone. I consider memory to be vital to the human spirit, or soul. The soul of a guitar is something different.
edit - the notion of memory and the human soul is not an original concept. Famous works address the idea, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?/Blade Runner is the first one that comes to mind.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly] 1
#22395464 - 10/17/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here's a good description of this concept from a long time ago. It's a great analogy on the origin and permanency of consciousnesses and applies somewhat in our context.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Yup. You're so right. I'm just a brainless sheep. Now you can tell all of your latte-sipping friends how you bested me on the interwebs.
haha
This guy clearly doesn't follow the rules. Bashing religion is fun, but it doesnt make you better than everyone. Or automatically an intellectual
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie]
#22395531 - 10/17/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Guitars have spirits.. GG, I'm out, enjoy yourselves.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly]
#22395542 - 10/17/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder what made him delete his post . . .
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DieCommie

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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly]
#22395550 - 10/17/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sudly said: Guitars have spirits.. GG, I'm out, enjoy yourselves. 
Don't think that modern american christains definition of spirit is the only one. Look up the wikipedia article on it;
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The English word spirit (from Latin spiritus "breath") has many different meanings and connotations, most of them relating to a non-corporeal substance contrasted with the material body. It can also refer to a "subtle" as opposed to "gross" material substance, as in the famous last paragraph of Sir Isaac Newton's Principia Mathematica.[1]
I am obviously using the term loosely and not strictly. I find that you have to use the language of the believer to discuss with the believer, because you know they will not adopt your language. In another context I would simply call it an emergent property. In my mind, a strong emergent property and spirit are functionally identical.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie] 1
#22395699 - 10/17/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let's see. The retards that came up with religion, demons, etc.:
1) Had life expectancies in the 30s because they were 1000s of years away from learning what germs were
2) Had no medicine
3) Were 1000s of years from electricity, toilets, refrigeration of food, etc.
4) Were 1000s of years away from discovering toothpaste
5) Had no idea what "snow" or "hurricanes", blizzards, tsunamis, and frost were because the retards lived in the middle of the desert with no concept of life outside of their tiny bubble.
6) No such thing as chemistry, no idea they were breathing Oxygen, didn't know a thing about any of the elements or what their properties were.
7) No such thing as physics or biology
8) The retards thought the earth was just recently born, with no concept of evolution over billions of years, no such thing as dinosaurs, fossils, a spherical earth, or gravity, or tectonic plates, or other solar systems, let alone galaxies.
9) Didn't take showers with soap or wash their disgusting barbaric hands. Probably went poo-poo and pee-pee like dogs.
10) Were retards, but let's just believe everything and all the fairy tales that the retards came up with.
Edited by Confucian (10/17/15 10:20 PM)
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: Confucian] 1
#22395768 - 10/17/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not to mention historians have catalogued over 2500 gods and deities so far. They can't all be right but they can all be wrong
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: sudly]
#22395843 - 10/17/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys are so smart.
You should write books so those with less superior brains can marvel at your intellect.
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DieCommie

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ThatKidWithTheFace said: You guys are so smart.
You should write books so those with less superior brains can marvel at your intellect.
There are plenty of secular, atheist and skeptical writings on the subject. Put down the bible and give them a chance. Choose for yourself, don't let your god make your decisions for you.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Portable-Atheist-Essential-Nonbeliever/dp/0306816083
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie] 1
#22395881 - 10/17/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll pass, the words are probably too big for me. Thanks, though.
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Re: Is there life after death? [Re: DieCommie] 1
#22395885 - 10/17/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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JustForToday said: I believe there is an afterlife. And I also I believe I can't be saved and i'm going to hell. I'm too far gone to turn back.
If the bible is true, then Satan is certainly the good deity. Heaven is a prison for the flock. Lucifer is a lover of freedom.
is that why the Jews are god's so called chosen people? they look up to Satan and Lucifer? things are starting to make sense.
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