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OfflineWarden GA
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Identification Help, Please
    #22392885 - 10/17/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? Suwanee/Buford, GA area. I found these near or under pines which I believe are loblolly or virgina pines. Some were collected near the treeline in a grass field which also had some gravel in areas. They grew in the grass and in the grassy gravel. Additionally, I found some growing up on the ridge line under the pines. There was a think blanket of pine straw covering all of the ground in every direction. Several were obscured under the pine straw. They were always growing from the ground or mossy earth. Wood debris (mostly pine) was present in the area.

Gills:
(Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.) Attached to the stem. Colors of gills varied from yellowish-rusty-brown to brown and even purplish. When bruised the gills became very green (kinda like US currency green) or purple, and occasionally extremely dark purple with very heavy bruising. Gills were not exceptionally "tight" together. 

Stem:
(Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.) Stem diameter varied based on size of mushroom but remained consistent relative to cap size. color was varied, blending white, purple, dark purple, and some greens (though green was less prominent. Thick, hollow stem that did not break or cut easily, often tearing slightly when attempted. If pulled straight from ground it came up with the bulb/roots attached, never breaking at the stem. Texture was firm and rubbery. Bruised purple primarily though some bruised green or yellowish-green. Length from ground to cap was was typically under 3 inches, more often in the 1.5 to 2.5 inch range.

Cap:
(Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.) Convex! Diameter varied but ranged from just under 2 inches to as wide as 4 inches, with the largest specimen exceeding 4 inches (I believe, I sliced him prior to his measurement.). Color at harvest was a beautiful mix of golden brown, light rust, significant blue and green, with the center of the depressed cap being very blue-green and sometimes black. Texture was suede. Was only subviscid when moist. Cap would bruise very purple and green, sometimes approaching black in areas, and it would have a metallic sheen/glint to it, which was odd to me. If cut or broken the middle layers of the cap would show significant blue veins, or be white with blue/green veins appearing within minutes. It was tougher to "snap" the cap then most other mushrooms I've handled and it didn't crumble, but broke evenly most of the time. 

Spore print color:
And THIS is why I am here. Regrettably, I did not use aluminum foil. I previously read to use black and/or white paper. I did 3 spore prints on white printer paper overnight, and the results has me confused about this species. The spore print can be described a few different ways. A yellowish-white; creamy off white-yellow; rusty-white; or rusty-yellow. (sorry for so many interpretations, it's pretty difficult to peg, honestly.) There is some brown or rust color near the center of the print where the stem would have been. ODD NOTE: I did the print on the white paper with the white paper sitting on a white, countertop. After removing the paper there were slight stains where the mushrooms had been, and the stain on the counter was purple to brown-purple.

Bruising:
(Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.) I believe I covered this thoroughly above. However; very green, blue, purple, and sometimes nearly black though this was rare. Many mushrooms had a metallic hue across the caps.

Other information:
(Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.) I'm not learned on various mushroom smells (technical terms) but these had a fairly distinct odor. They didn't smell like typical mushrooms. When asking a friend who doesn't know about mushrooms (and doesn't have a great sniffer) what odor she detected, she responded "I can't smell much...<swapped caps> OK, that one smells kinda like a mushroom."

Dried mushrooms: I dried many of these mushrooms in a dehydrator at about 130 degrees F. They dried quicker than expected (I thought it would take a day, but it only took about 5 hours at that temp; a mistake I won't make again.) Once dried they did have a mushroom odor to me, and they were black and grey, without and purple or green remaining from what I could tell. they reminded me a bit of portabella in their look after drying. I got them cracker dry, though some were almost "nut" dry in their firmness.

So, what do the experts think? I have spent 3+ days researching and can't come to a conclusion, mainly b/c of the spore print. These mushrooms most resemble psilocybe ovoid-, or psilocybe weilii, though I could be WAY off.

Thank you each for taking the time to help me with this!

Image # 1 - Pre-harvested in woods, under pine, in blanket of pine straw. The specimens in the woods were different than those in the grass/gravel. these did not have the excessive blue-green-gold look, except for the center of the cap.





Image #2 - These are the specimens found in the grass and gravel area near the (pine) tree line.





Image #3 - Spore print from the mushrooms in the last picture above.



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Re: Identification Help, Please [Re: Warden GA]
    #22392897 - 10/17/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Lactarius species.


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Re: Identification Help, Please [Re: elprawn]
    #22392904 - 10/17/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Excellent ID request, keep after those weilii, you'll know when you find them


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Re: Identification Help, Please [Re: elprawn]
    #22392934 - 10/17/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, that didn't take long! :smile:


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