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OfflineDMTIZE
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DMT Extraction
    #22392560 - 10/17/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

SWIM began their DMT extraction a couple days ago using the marsofold tek. He used a turkey baster to remove the top layer of naphtha from the container and proceeded to begin evaporating down to 1/3 of the original volume last night. SWIM was getting impatient so decided to put a fan over it. SWIM woke up this morning and noticed all naphtha to be evaporated and any white crystals that were forming had became clear. The whole bottom of the small glass dish was a thin layer of clear gooey looking substance. SWIM is wandering if he's fucked or not. He decided to put a bit more naphtha into the dish hoping to increase evaporation in the freeze precipitation phase. After small amount of naphtha was added to the thin layer he put it in the fridge to begin the CFC (Cool-Freeze Cycle). SWIM is hoping after a 6 hour fridge and freezer cycle that crystals will form.

He would like any insight that you may have pertaining to his extraction and what he can do at this point to better the yield and ensure good quality dmt.


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: DMTIZE]
    #22393061 - 10/17/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

those clear goos can be extremely potent if you take a nug, smear it up and vape it. You must be sure that the naphtha is completely evaporated though. You should really slow down a bit to make sure you're doing things right and thoroughly. The DMT didn't go anywhere so it'll either precipitate in the freeze or stay as a goo that you'll have to evaporate to scrape up. But if you're rushing and using a turkey baster there's a good chance that goo isn't the cleanest and possibly why you're not seeing crystals.


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: Icon]
    #22393110 - 10/17/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Within 30 minutes of putting it in the freezer SWIM noticed small white dot crystals forming everywhere more so than when it first began to evaporate. He used a turkey baster because that is what it recommended on the tek. He only got a few drops of the basification layer in the naphtha dish. They began dulling from dark red to more of a light thin orange. I am guessing these will be able to be removed when he recrystalizes the batch.

"The DMT didn't go anywhere so it'll either precipitate in the freeze or stay as a goo that you'll have to evaporate to scrape up"
- If it precipitates in the freezer won't all the goo be gone in the first place? How would I evaporate it if it stays as goo after SWIM pulls it from the freezer?

UPDATE:
SWIM just took it out of the fridge after 3 hours and noticed crystals getting way bigger as he transferred into the freezer. Hoping crystals double or triple in size.

QUESTION:
If the naphtha evaporates before the crystals finish forming should he add more naphtha halfway through to induce more evaporation and more formation of crystals?


Edited by DMTIZE (10/17/15 01:03 PM)


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: DMTIZE]
    #22393507 - 10/17/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DMTIZE said:

UPDATE:
SWIM just took it out of the fridge after 3 hours and noticed crystals getting way bigger as he transferred into the freezer. Hoping crystals double or triple in size.

QUESTION:
If the naphtha evaporates before the crystals finish forming should he add more naphtha halfway through to induce more evaporation and more formation of crystals?







If you're doing a freeze-precip, no naptha should be evaporating while it's in the freezer. (assuming you have the container that the naptha/dmt solution is in covered and sealed airtight as it should be).


If you're evaporating to get crystals....a long slow evap, over a few days or a week+ is best to get relatively large and dense crystal forms . This is done by covering the tray/dish that the naptha/dmt is in with saran wrap or tin-foil, and placing many small holes in the saran wrap or tin-foil so the evaporation rate is slowed down. (I'd say it's best to do a freeze precip first, then do a slow evaporation recrystallization with the product you got from the freeze-precip)

In either case, you shouldn't have to add more naptha unless you let too much evap in the first place before free-precip and you had a dish of goo....and no naptha should be evaporating while doing the freeze-precip.





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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: openmind]
    #22393536 - 10/17/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Okay thank you for your input. SWIM was under the impression that naphtha evaporates in the freezer. He has the solution tightly wrapped in seran wrap. He is going to take filter out naphtha in a couple hours and take a small dose from the batch to use for tonight. He will then put naphtha back into the container with rest of the unscraped crystals and begin a slow evaporation as you stated.

EDIT:
Also when doing the recrystallization should he let the mixture of heated naphtha and dmt be evaporated at room temp overnight? Or should that solution go straight into the freezer?


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: DMTIZE]
    #22393735 - 10/17/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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DMTIZE said:
....He is going to take filter out naphtha in a couple hours and take a small dose from the batch to use for tonight. He will then put naphtha back into the container with rest of the unscraped crystals and begin a slow evaporation as you stated.





So you plan on taking out a little bit of the dmt that's already precipitated, then putting the container back in the freezer to continue?


Do as you wish...but I'd say don't rush into getting out that little dose just to smoke tonight...be patient, it takes time for this to be done proper. Let it stay in the freezer, without being touched or disturbed (important for the growth of crystals), for at least 12 to 16 hours.






Quote:


EDIT:
Also when doing the recrystallization should he let the mixture of heated naphtha and dmt be evaporated at room temp overnight? Or should that solution go straight into the freezer?





I'm speaking of recrystallization at room/ambient temp, a long and slow evaporation....


"....He will then put naphtha back into the container with rest of the unscraped crystals and begin a slow evaporation as you stated...."


What sort of container are you using at the moment?...How big is it?


When doing a recrystallization, it's ideal to use a relatively small container....like a shot glass. And you scrape up the crystals before doing a recrystallization....Using fresh hot naptha.

....search around and read up on the re-crystal teks that are out there.






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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: DMTIZE]
    #22394391 - 10/17/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

SWIM is a dickhead haha. we dont use that here, we all know its you that aint gonna protect you from shit


Edited by forrest_dweller (10/17/15 05:17 PM)


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #22394942 - 10/17/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its probably about 8" x 5" not too big at all very shallow with rounded inner corners. Ideal in my opinion, but I guess i've never made DMT before either. SWIM ended up dosing like he said with about 3/4 of a pencil eraser amount and experienced a very light trip. It was like someone was there with him by the time he took his 2nd hit. Very weird feeling as if that presence was waving or trying to get his attention. And yes SWIM had a sitter. It is very difficult to describe probably because this was his first time. He will wait till tomorrow to try dosing again with a more evaporated and stable dose.

I appreciate your advice with recrystallizaiton


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: DMTIZE]
    #22395507 - 10/17/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

paranoid much? hahah swim sounds like a real fucking dickhead


Edited by forrest_dweller (10/17/15 09:31 PM)


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Re: DMT Extraction [Re: forrest_dweller]
    #22395838 - 10/17/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No need for that!

But yeah please lose the swim dude it really isnt making you safer and I think everyone agrees that for some reason or other it's actually incredibly irritating!

Ha ha more irritating than it should be to be honest and myself I'm not even really sure why it annoys me so much.

BUT IT DOES! STOP IT, STOP IT, STOP IT!

:lol:

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