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Taliban's new poppy 1
#22391936 - 10/17/15 05:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://http://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-taliban-double-opium-income-new-strain-high-yield-poppy-seed/
Has anyone heard of this new strain? The article sounds very... propagandish. If this story does hold weight, how many think that poor afghan farmers or afghan warlords for that matter, know enough about genetics to selectively breed a high alkoloid producing strain? You would need GC and other expensive lab gear just to measure the alkaloids... I find it unlikely. If anyone has more info i would love to hear! I think they simply got their hands on pharma seeds and found they do much better in afghanistan.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath]
#22391973 - 10/17/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I need some of those seeds/pods ASAP!
Your link doesn't work
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take the first http out
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fixed the link, thanks.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath] 1
#22392019 - 10/17/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probably Obama's doing
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I wonder where the UK farmers get their opium seeds. I stole a load of poppies once as they grow fields of it here en mass and they were really potent pods.
Heres my pod porn
https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979803-IMAG0415.jpg https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979632-IMAG0417.jpg
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That feild is beautiful, Aussie? I want to see something like that before i die, wouldnt be the first lol...
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath] 1
#22392121 - 10/17/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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those dudes have tons of cash from heroin now oil, they pay families to send their kids downtown with bombs
they call them human guided missles
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nice1returns said: I wonder where the UK farmers get their opium seeds. I stole a load of poppies once as they grow fields of it here en mass and they were really potent pods.
Heres my pod porn
https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979803-IMAG0415.jpg https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979632-IMAG0417.jpg
sheesh, where is that?
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probably eastern russia, opium is in their folklore
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: Mad_Larkin] 1
#22392174 - 10/17/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I live in Dorset UK
Every summer I have as much Opium as I can grab
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They could have got it from any number of international crime syndicates, probably the CIA I've heard in South America coca has been grown in a wider range of habitats lately, perhaps there are biologists or maybe even GMO programs going on with these plants. Not sure how I feel about GMO drugs tend to think that the savings won't be passed onto the consumer, or the farmer for that matter.
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lucky :p
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There certaianly are GM programs, it can be verified in papaver. Coca im not certain but there has to be a legitimate legal supplier so i would not rule it out. GM drugs are not possible, but gm organisms can manufacture drugs. GM yeast has been created to produce morphine! GMO cash crops are more appealing than food products IMO. I think the coca plant simply has not been cultivated there before, now they are using agricultural techniques to enrich the basins soil.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath]
#23572257 - 08/24/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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AcidBath said: http://http://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-taliban-double-opium-income-new-strain-high-yield-poppy-seed/
Has anyone heard of this new strain? The article sounds very... propagandish. If this story does hold weight, how many think that poor afghan farmers or afghan warlords for that matter, know enough about genetics to selectively breed a high alkoloid producing strain? You would need GC and other expensive lab gear just to measure the alkaloids... I find it unlikely. If anyone has more info i would love to hear! I think they simply got their hands on pharma seeds and found they do much better in afghanistan.
Well, let's not under estimate the abilities of the Afghan People AGAIN. Last time we did that, we had that little incident. What was it? Of yeah! Good ole' 9/11. (but that's a whole different discussion).
But they certainly must have enough FUNDS, from their Multi-Trillion Dollar Opium Trade, to afford at least SOMEONE who knows an alternative way to use Fertilizers, other than making bomb (LOL).
Actually, I heard that these New Afghan GMO Seeds were Developed by a Company called: 'Izmir Oil & Spice Poppy Farm' (Canada) who spent about 7 years Developing (breeding) a "Quick Maturing" Strain to Mature in under 60 Days (from Seed to Pod).
They used to sell their Seeds online for about $40 per gram, and also Sold Pods.
Then, one day, suddenly, without warning, they went out of business just prior to the News breaking about Afghan's New GMO Seeds.
I've read a few other Articles on these Seeds, and they are believed to be an 'Album' Variety (white Seed), and have a PINK n WHITE Flower about 4' feet tall.
Now there are several vendors popping up claiming to be selling them. But I'd be very weary when shopping. Make sure Vendors have several ORIGINAL Photos (even Video) showing Crop of the Izmir Variety THEY grew over that last few years (since that's the only way they could have possibly kept their Genetics alive). Also make sure their Photos weren't stolen off Google Images (I see too many Vendors doing that now, then claiming they grew them). So don't hesitate to call B.S. on those Vendors.
I thought I saw a Website for Izmir Poppy Farms a while back. Not sure exactly what it was named. Whether it was their Old Site, their New Site, or if it was just some imposture.
Good Luck!
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath] 1
#23572608 - 08/24/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What strain do they use?
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath]
#23572637 - 08/24/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love puppies, is there a picture of it?
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Your signature is disturbing as hell
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Your signature is disturbing as hell
I think its one of the better ones on the internet
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: Konyap] 1
#23573041 - 08/24/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Konyap said: those dudes have tons of cash from heroin now oil, they pay families to send their kids downtown with bombs
they call them human guided missles
I call it "call duty dlc".
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Connoisseur said: What strain do they use?
Technically 'Somniferum' is the "Strain" - 'Papaver' is the "Species"
If I understand you correctly, I think you mean the Variety of Somniferum?? - They are 'Album' (Galania) (I hope that 'Variety' is the correct term.)
I could be wrong, though. 'Album/Nigum', etc COULD fall under the 'Hybrid', or possibly 'Sub-Strain' or 'Sub-Species' Category)
But am Sure about them being 'Album' (Galania)
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SURE: "Izmir Afghan GMO Opium Poppy - Var. Album 'Galania":
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Konyap said: those dudes have tons of cash from heroin now oil, they pay families to send their kids downtown with bombs
they call them human guided missles
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LuSiD enthusiast said: I call it "call duty dlc"
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Your posting style is... unique?
I had to stare for a minute before i realized that wasnt your sig.
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Technically 'Somniferum' is the "Strain" - 'Papaver' is the "Species"
I think you mean Papaver is the genus, and somniferum is the species 'Strain' would then go after that ie; 'var. paeoniflorum'.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: brk]
#23573901 - 08/24/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Connoisseur said: What strain do they use?
P. Somniferum (Album)
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Technically 'Somniferum' is the "Strain" - 'Papaver' is the "Species"
I think you mean Papaver is the genus, and somniferum is the species 'Strain' would then go after that ie; 'var. paeoniflorum'.
Correct. - and Thank you!! But Since we're basically only talking about "the opium Poppy" in particular (P. Somniferum), plus the fact that I was attempting to answer someone who asked: "What Strain do they use?"
I was trying to find a way to simplify, and divide the Genetics in a way that would make sense to someone who asked about the "Strain".
Because in the Poppy kingdom, actually, there is no such thing as "Strains" - just "Species" and then different Sects. and Varieties of those Species. (hence the 'var. paeoniflorum') you mentioned.
Make sense?
That's why I went onto to ramble about 'Hybrids', 'Sub-Strain' & 'Sub-Species' etc, cuz there's so much Scientific Slang out there it's crazy!!
But thank you for catching that. And if you know where Terms such as Album and Nigrum should be categorized, any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: AcidBath]
#23573935 - 08/24/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: Apostle]
#23574028 - 08/24/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I searched them on google, as I'm not familiar with them personally. They appear to both be synonyms for P. somniferum but a few links came up as varieties. Google is not a reliable source .
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Connoisseur said: What strain do they use?
Technically 'Somniferum' is the "Strain" - 'Papaver' is the "Species"
If I understand you correctly, I think you mean the Variety of Somniferum?? - They are 'Album' (Galania) (I hope that 'Variety' is the correct term.)
I could be wrong, though. 'Album/Nigum', etc COULD fall under the 'Hybrid', or possibly 'Sub-Strain' or 'Sub-Species' Category)
But am Sure about them being 'Album' (Galania)
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SURE: "Izmir Afghan GMO Opium Poppy - Var. Album 'Galania":

Ahh I see.
Just shows what I know about the technical terms of plants
I gotta look around for places that carry seeds or pods of that strain.
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Re: Taliban's new poppy [Re: brk]
#23574343 - 08/24/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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brk said: I searched them on google, as I'm not familiar with them personally. They appear to both be synonyms for P. somniferum but a few links came up as varieties. Google is not a reliable source .
Oh, sorry. Check it on Wiki (below). You'll kinda get an idea of what I mean.
It's broken down by Kingdom at least: wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver
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Sorry, that was in answer to this.
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extrajordanary said: if you know where Terms such as Album and Nigrum should be categorized, any help would be appreciated.
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brk said: I searched them on google, as I'm not familiar with them personally. They appear to both be synonyms for P. somniferum but a few links came up as varieties. Google is not a reliable source .
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nice1returns said: I wonder where the UK farmers get their opium seeds. I stole a load of poppies once as they grow fields of it here en mass and they were really potent pods.
Heres my pod porn
https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979803-IMAG0415.jpg https://files.shroomery.org/files/09-25/550979632-IMAG0417.jpg
Is that the cultivar called "kite" which is grown in your area of the world?
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