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Haha, Fal thinks the Soviet Union created jobs for everyone
You mean they didn't? But these socialists here tell us govt CAN create jobs for everyone!
So who DID create the jobs in the Soviet Union? They had no unemployment... 
Comedic gold from self-proclaimed Communist Fal.. HAHAHAH Hilarious
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Haha, Fal thinks the Soviet Union created jobs for everyone
You mean they didn't? But these socialists here tell us govt CAN create jobs for everyone!
So who DID create the jobs in the Soviet Union? They had no unemployment... 
Comedic gold from self-proclaimed Communist Fal.. HAHAHAH Hilarious

I'm not a communist, and I don't support communism. But why does your side always feel the need to lie about everything? I can agree that communism isn't the best system, but unemployment in the Soviet Union was 0%, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world by denying that.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: So who DID create the jobs in the Soviet Union? They had no unemployment... 
Comedic gold from self-proclaimed Communist Fal.. HAHAHAH Hilarious

I'm not a communist, and I don't support communism. But why does your side always feel the need to lie about everything? I can agree that communism isn't the best system, but unemployment in the Soviet Union was 0%, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world by denying that.
Of course, all, even if you were young or old-sick or dying, needed to work to support the government political class in the Soviet Union.
How did that work out for them, Commie? You support socialism right? Both ideologies are part of the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality that you enjoy so thoroughly
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you keep falsely attributing claims, someone might end up calling you a moron. but you get off on that, don't you?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm not a communist, and I don't support communism. But why does your side always feel the need to lie about everything? I can agree that communism isn't the best system, but unemployment in the Soviet Union was 0%, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world by denying that.
Of course, all, even if you were young or old-sick or dying, needed to work to support the government political class in the Soviet Union.

I just asked why you feel the need to lie about everything, and what do you do? Make up another lie.
The retirement age in the Soviet Union was 60 for males, and 55 for females. A lot younger than in the US.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm not a communist, and I don't support communism. But why does your side always feel the need to lie about everything? I can agree that communism isn't the best system, but unemployment in the Soviet Union was 0%, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world by denying that.
Of course, all, even if you were young or old-sick or dying, needed to work to support the government political class in the Soviet Union.

I just asked why you feel the need to lie about everything, and what do you do? Make up another lie.
The retirement age in the Soviet Union was 60 for males, and 55 for females. A lot younger than in the US. 
You never post any links do you? and you didn't answer my question per usual (since you can't read properly, maybe a learning disability?)
How did that work out for them, Commie? You support socialism right? Both ideologies are part of the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality that you enjoy so thoroughly
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm not a communist, and I don't support communism. But why does your side always feel the need to lie about everything? I can agree that communism isn't the best system, but unemployment in the Soviet Union was 0%, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world by denying that.
Of course, all, even if you were young or old-sick or dying, needed to work to support the government political class in the Soviet Union.

I just asked why you feel the need to lie about everything, and what do you do? Make up another lie.
The retirement age in the Soviet Union was 60 for males, and 55 for females. A lot younger than in the US. 
You never post any links do you?
After all this time debating me, do you really think I'd post something that can't be backed up? Here you go, since you're Google illiterate:
Aging in Eastern Europe and the Former Soviet Union
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How did that work out for them, Commie? You support socialism right? Both ideologies are part of the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality that you enjoy so thoroughly
First of all, that's another made up straw man, as I DON'T support the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality. 
Secondly, it worked out fine for everyone except those at the top. They were eager to leave communism for capitalism, as they became instant billionaires when that happened, and Government owned industry was gifted to the top communist officials.
-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
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How did that work out for them, Commie? You support socialism right? Both ideologies are part of the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality that you enjoy so thoroughly
First of all, that's another made up straw man, as I DON'T support the "GIBSMEDAT" mentality. 
Secondly, it worked out fine for everyone except those at the top. They were eager to leave communism for capitalism, as they became instant billionaires when that happened, and Government owned industry was gifted to the top communist officials.
Yes you support the GIBSMEDAT mentality because you're a progressive right? What political ideology do you claim to represent?
No, communism didn't work out for anyone, obviously, because it was abolished. LOL so who benefits from Communism? You just said people benefitted from the FALL OF COMMUNISM.
Poor guy, I kick your ass at debate over and over and over... It's getting really old. Have any good points? Guess not
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burgerbrain has the biggest confirmation bias i have ever seen.
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-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
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I kicked these libs' asses over and over again in debate.. It's really sad.
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you said what in conversation!? you must be a commie!
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I kicked these lib's asses over and over again in debate.. It's really sad.
*one guy claps*
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burgerbrain said: Yes you support the GIBSMEDAT mentality because you're a progressive right?
WRONG! 
Progressives support the mentality that if someone makes a lot of money for a company, he deserves a fair share of that money, not the minimum the company can get away with.
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burgerbrain said: No, communism didn't work out for anyone, obviously, because it was abolished.
One reason communism was abolished is because it was done in a way that made the leadership instant billionaires. Another reason is because people were growing tired of the cold war.
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burgerbrain said: LOL so who benefits from Communism? You just said people benefitted from the FALL OF COMMUNISM.
Soviet leadership benefitted from capitalism, the workers benefitted from communism. As I pointed out, everyone got a living wage, everyone got housing, everyone got to retire by age 60, and everyone was guaranteed 30 days of paid vacation per year.
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Say it enough, and you might believe it.
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hostileuniverse said: Yeah, it worked so well, people had to stand in line for their toilet paper, hoping it wouldn't run out before they got a roll!
Are you seriously doubling down on this?
I'm not talking about World War II, I'm talking about the Soviet Union from the 50's through the 80's.
fair enough, FAIL, the commies created jobs, and everyone got a living wage, (which I wonder what was considered "fair") and then what happened? do you really condone a system that has 30years of "prosperity" and then collapses?
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i don't think he does, i think he was just making a point that your bias doesn't always support actual facts. petty, i know, but when in Rome, you do as the Romans do.
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hostileuniverse said: Yeah, it worked so well, people had to stand in line for their toilet paper, hoping it wouldn't run out before they got a roll!
I'm not talking about World War II, I'm talking about the Soviet Union from the 50's through the 80's.
fair enough, FAIL, the commies created jobs, and everyone got a living wage, (which I wonder what was considered "fair") and then what happened? do you really condone a system that has 30years of "prosperity" and then collapses?
i don't think he does, i think he was just making a point that your bias doesn't always support actual facts. 
Thank you akira_akuma! You are exactly right. This was another straw man.
I find it mind boggling how deep in make believe land hostileuniverse is with all his straw man arguments. He refuses to accept that liberals aren't the dummies of his fantasies. Instead of arguing with what people on these boards are telling him, he argues with imaginary straw man opponents.
And yes HU, the Soviets enjoyed four decades of relative success. What finally killed them was the escalating cold war. They had to put put far too many resources into their military, which in a communist country only sucks resources from areas that could have made people's lives better. And as I already mentioned, the elite became instant billionaires when Russia turned capitalist, so they didn't object either.
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So give all resources to govt and they will dole them out as they see fit? Isn't that a little like giving majority of wealth to 1% and begging for crumbs? Now WHERE have I heard that before?
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Who said "give all resources to the govt"??? Can you make ONE post without a STRAW MAN ARGUMENT?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Who said "give all resources to the govt"??? Can you make ONE post without a STRAW MAN ARGUMENT?
When you applaud the constructs of communism, that is essentially what you are abdicating, is it not?
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