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Poll: Economics
#22390374 - 10/16/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post your answers below for questions 1-8
1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8)
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it'll be interesting to see what the liberals pick, IF they are brave enough...
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hostileuniverse said: it'll be interesting to see what the liberals pick, IF they are brave enough...
They'll ignore it like the gun threads in this forum hehe. "Stay away liberals- you'll get owned!!" they say to each other
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hostileuniverse said: it'll be interesting to see what the liberals pick, IF they are brave enough...
They'll ignore it like the gun threads in this forum hehe. "Stay away liberals- you'll get owned!!" they say to each other
lol, aint that the truth! like when they ignore stats that go against their ideology, its kinda sad actually...
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burgerbrain said:
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hostileuniverse said: it'll be interesting to see what the liberals pick, IF they are brave enough...
They'll ignore it like the gun threads in this forum hehe. "Stay away liberals- you'll get owned!!" they say to each other
lol, aint that the truth! like when they ignore stats that go against their ideology, its kinda sad actually...
They are a sad group of people that can't even think straight-brainwashed by the Obamamedia of the Obamanation
LOL It looks like a lib just voted, pretty much guaranteed to not post his answers.
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Libs won't post their answers (ashamed of being stupid)
PS. I didn't vote, but I can give you my answers!
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hostileuniverse said: it'll be interesting to see what the liberals pick, IF they are brave enough...
Well, I can already predict what the American conservatives will vote for.
I voted from a Canadian point of view on what works over here. Such as rent control and higher minimum wage and free trade. But up here is extremely different from the US. Diffenrent set up
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: Patlal]
#22392571 - 10/17/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Free trade leads to unemployment"
Who disagrees with that? It costs US jobs and gives employment to people in other countries. It leads to unemployment in the US, that's a fact. BTW, we don't even practice "free trade" today.
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: qman] 2
#22392580 - 10/17/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: "Free trade leads to unemployment"
Who disagrees with that? It costs US jobs and gives employment to people in other countries. It leads to unemployment in the US, that's a fact. BTW, we don't even practice "free trade" today.
That would be me. We are an exportating country and free trade opens up markets to increase our exportations which leads to job growth.
Different conjecture.
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
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qman said: "Free trade leads to unemployment"
Who disagrees with that? It costs US jobs and gives employment to people in other countries. It leads to unemployment in the US, that's a fact. BTW, we don't even practice "free trade" today.
That would be me. We are an exportating country and free trade opens up markets to increase our exportations which leads to job growth.
Different conjecture.
The US is the largest exporter in the world, yet it doesn't improve our job market. Again, there's nothing equal about the trade agreements, China and others still have tariffs on imports while the US is just one big open market, that's not good for US workers.
I don't even know if they count selling I-Phones (made in China and Indonesia) to the rest of the world as an US export, my guess is they do, talk about BS.
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: qman]
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
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qman said: "Free trade leads to unemployment"
Who disagrees with that? It costs US jobs and gives employment to people in other countries. It leads to unemployment in the US, that's a fact. BTW, we don't even practice "free trade" today.
That would be me. We are an exportating country and free trade opens up markets to increase our exportations which leads to job growth.
Different conjecture.
The US is the largest exporter in the world, yet it doesn't improve our job market. Again, there's nothing equal about the trade agreements, China and others still have tariffs on imports while the US is just one big open market, that's not good for US workers.
I don't even know if they count selling I-Phones (made in China and Indonesia) to the rest of the world as an US export, my guess is they do, talk about BS.
You import more than you export. So it doesn't really help you guys very much
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: Patlal]
#22392924 - 10/17/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Regulations for the most part have cut our manufacturing here. We used to build things here, good things, but the Europeans and Asians have outperformed us in allowing manufacturing to exist...
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hostileuniverse said: Regulations for the most part have cut our manufacturing here. We used to build things here, good things, but the Europeans and Asians have outperformed us in allowing manufacturing to exist...
US based companies still manufacture products, but out of the US because of the cheaper labor. Not being able to find workers in the US for .50 cents to 2.00 per hour isn't a regulation.
US companies made plenty of profits before they moved manufacturing out of the US, and they also paid top wages, imagine that fact.
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: qman]
#22393187 - 10/17/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: "Free trade leads to unemployment"
Who disagrees with that? It costs US jobs and gives employment to people in other countries. It leads to unemployment in the US, that's a fact. BTW, we don't even practice "free trade" today.
We're so far away from "free trade" and it's showing. Remember the North American Free Trade agreement/TPP, like the Patriot Act, has a deceptive title.
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Re: Poll: Economics [Re: qman]
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hostileuniverse said: Regulations for the most part have cut our manufacturing here. We used to build things here, good things, but the Europeans and Asians have outperformed us in allowing manufacturing to exist...
US based companies still manufacture products, but out of the US because of the cheaper labor. Not being able to find workers in the US for .50 cents to 2.00 per hour isn't a regulation.
US companies made plenty of profits before they moved manufacturing out of the US, and they also paid top wages, imagine that fact. 
So they made money here? Then why move? Greed? I don't think so, think about all the steel and textile companies that used to be here, they closed because of regulation, New Jersey used to have lots of factories, they closed because the leftist liberal govt forced them too, that's a fact
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hostileuniverse said: think about all the steel and textile companies that used to be here, they closed because of regulation, New Jersey used to have lots of factories, they closed because the leftist liberal govt forced them too, that's a fact
Please explain what regulation(s) forced factories to close.
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When you impose regulations that make it prohibitively expensive to operate, business will close...
Everything from nafta to the EPA regs, govt intervention has been causing industries to close for the last 40 years... It's complex, I'm on my phone, but I know you're an industrious chap and can find lots of info on it...
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Please explain how NAFTA causes American businesses to close. It moves jobs overseas, but that doesn't force businesses to close.
I'm a little surprised that you're against clean water and air. Here's an idea: Instead of letting our factories poison us, how about we refuse to import products from countries that pollute the air and water?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Please explain how NAFTA causes American businesses to close. It moves jobs overseas, but that doesn't force businesses to close.
I'm a little surprised that you're against clean water and air. Here's an idea: Instead of letting our factories poison us, how about we refuse to import products from countries that pollute the air and water? 
wow, well why keep a factory open here when you can go overseas with same factory and not be badgered with all the regulations?
clean air and water? well I guess I know when I brought up the epa, libs would want blood,
so let me ask you, how does not wanting a burdomesome EPA that is simply about justifying its job anymore, not wanting clean air and water? The EPA is huge, with an 11 billion dollar annual budget, its way more than just "clean air and water" estimates show the EPA costs the american economy over 350 BILLION dollars every year, I'm sorry, but they, much like the unions, are now a detriment to job creation, not our savior...
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Please explain how NAFTA causes American businesses to close. It moves jobs overseas, but that doesn't force businesses to close.
wow, well why keep a factory open here when you can go overseas with same factory and not be badgered with all the regulations?
I just told you that NAFTA moves jobs overseas. That doesn't force businesses to close. For the record, I'm against NAFTA.
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clean air and water? well I guess I know when I brought up the epa, libs would want blood,
Asking for clean air and water is wanting blood? You're not making sense again.
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hostileuniverse said: so let me ask you, how does not wanting a burdomesome EPA that is simply about justifying its job anymore, not wanting clean air and water?
You're amazingly wrong about the purpose of the EPA.
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hostileuniverse said: The EPA is huge, with an 11 billion dollar annual budget, its way more than just "clean air and water" estimates show the EPA costs the american economy over 350 BILLION dollars every year, I'm sorry, but they, much like the unions, are now a detriment to job creation, not our savior...
It DOES cost money for companies to put filters on hazardous gases released into the environment, and to properly dispose of hazardous chemicals rather than pouring them into our rivers, and for the EPA to set and enforce the rules so we can enjoy clean air and water.
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