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wolf fish
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Have to ask...even though I know the answer.
#22389261 - 10/16/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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On 9/28 I inoculated 4 quart jars of rye with half a pasty plate each of a B+ clone.
On 10/4 I shook the jars. On the first jar I was a little rough with it and my polyfil filter popped through. I washed my hands before shaking the jars, so I removed the lid and removed the polyfil from the jar. I screwed the lid back on and got put the same piece of polyfil back in place. I marked the jar with a marker. The other jars were shook successfully without any issues.
On 10/5 I left for a business trip. I returned on 10/9 and to my surprise the jar I messed up on had the best growth and was almost completely colonized. On 10/14 I noticed 2 rye berries on the top were turning black, they are now completely black. Besides those two berries the jar looks fantastic, and it looks like the mycelium may still engulf those berries.
My plan was to spawn these 4 quarts of rye to half a brick of coir and 1 quart of verm (prepped using daimon5050 tek) to a 20 quart mini mono. Now I'm sort of torn because before I left for my trip I thought for sure that that jar would be completely fucked and now that its not I want to see if anyone would go against the conventional wisdom that would suggest I not spawn that jar with the rest.
What would you do? Toss that jar? Remove infected berries, then spawn with the rest as planned if when I break it up to spawn the rest looks good? Or spawn on its own in 6 quart tub with some coir/verm, maybe just place some coir/verm casing and fruit in the jar?
I think I know what to do
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: wolf fish]
#22389278 - 10/16/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, you know what to do... I would never intentionally spawn moldy spawn to a tub...
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: LocN9ne]
#22389431 - 10/16/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go to dollartree and get a $1 foil pan with a plastic lid. Poke small holes every 2.5in with a soldering iron. Make a trash bag liner and spawn to 2qt coir (or coir verm, whatever you dig) in there. Mist 1-2x daily.
That's what I do whenever I want to isolate a weird quart or have some extra mixed coir/spawn.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
Edited by Machiavelliavore (10/16/15 05:14 PM)
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22389481 - 10/16/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd toss it. I usually spawn with 2 quart jars to 1 half brick of coir. I probably could spawn 1 quart jar to half a brick of coir. But I do 2 quart jars.
So you should still be able to spawn to your monotub completely fine.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: Achillita]
#22389756 - 10/16/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Toss, no surgery, just toss. 3 quarts of spawn to a half brick of coir is still fine.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: Inocuole]
#22391261 - 10/16/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The reason why the op axed dis is because he was hoping someone would tell him that it's alright and to use the jar. That ain't gonna happen. But you can spawn the bad jar to coir by itself and see what happens. Keep it away from the other casings.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: tahoe]
#22391276 - 10/16/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahoe said: Keep it away from the other casings.
lmmfao.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: tahoe]
#22391311 - 10/16/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahoe said: the other casings.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: LocN9ne]
#22391415 - 10/16/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said:
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tahoe said: Keep it away from the other casings.
lmmfao.
Well that is for sure. But how did I earn it for this post. It's obvious the op wants to keep this bad jar. So spawn it to its own thing. Tub, casing, mono, v tek, pasty plate. I don't know what the kids are calling them now a days. Just keep it away from the other healthy things.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: tahoe]
#22391528 - 10/17/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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tahoe said:
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LocN9ne said:
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tahoe said: Keep it away from the other casings.
lmmfao.
Well that is for sure. But how did I earn it for this post. It's obvious the op wants to keep this bad jar. So spawn it to its own thing. Tub, casing, mono, v tek, pasty plate. I don't know what the kids are calling them now a days. Just keep it away from the other healthy things.
It just felt right.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: LocN9ne]
#22391790 - 10/17/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Touche
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wolf fish
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: tahoe]
#22392300 - 10/17/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the responses. I'm gonna toss the contents of the bad/suspect jar.
This will be my second mono tub, my first was 2 quarts of spawn to half a brick of coir and it grew and yielded just fine. I just really felt like a dumb ass for ruining what would have been a good jar. I need to invest in SFDs.
Anyone care to comment on using polyfil as a filter for GE holes in quart jars? It seems that it has been fashionable lately to suggest that polyfil isn't a very good filter of contaminants for monotubs therefore not the best filters for lids?
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: wolf fish]
#22392397 - 10/17/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never used polyfil as a filter but a lot of people do and it works fine. I would suggest SFD's though.
And polyfil isn't meant to be a filter for contams in monotubs. Just a way to slowly let fresh air in and out.
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wolf fish
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wowimflabbergasted said: And polyfil isn't meant to be a filter for contams in monotubs. Just a way to slowly let fresh air in and out.
I understand this, which is why when I've been reading in some monotub threads of people commenting on polyfil's in/ability to keep out contaminants has made no sense to me.
Also didn't realize how inexpensive SFDs are.
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Re: Have to ask...even though I know the answer. [Re: wolf fish]
#22393250 - 10/17/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SFD's are the way to go
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Polyfill will keep out mold and bacteria which usually adequate. It won't keep out mites though
No doubt it'll reduce the amount of contaminants that make it into a monotub through the air holes. That's just not the reason people use it for tubs. It's used as a way to make air exchange adjustable.
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