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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Inocuole]
    #22389886 - 10/16/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When I found Amanita Muscaria var. Guessowii - I pealed the skin off the cap, dried it, and smoked it.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Buckthorn]
    #22389966 - 10/16/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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When I found Amanita Muscaria var. Guessowii - I pealed the skin off the cap, dried it, and smoked it.




I can't help but notice that's where your story ended.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Inocuole]
    #22392075 - 10/17/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're right. How were you able to notice that?


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Buckthorn]
    #22393063 - 10/17/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, nothing came after the part where you smoked it, and to me, it seems like that's where the details would start picking up.  I'm no storyteller though.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Inocuole]
    #22393118 - 10/17/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So what are your plans with your "endless supply of psychoactive mycelium"  do you take this shit on the regular or just trying to kill off a few friends?


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: tetherface]
    #22393265 - 10/17/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Without the presence of living roots from a tree species proven to be the natural ectomycorrhizal associate of the fungi in question it will be almost impossible or probably impossible to germinate the spores.

There may be some methods that could work like watering potted trees of the right species with spore slurries(very hit and miss) also growing these tree species in tissue culture and then attempting to germinate spores in these cultures may be an interesting experiment, the spores of Amanita spp may have a dormancy period or may be only viable for a short period of time after dispersal.
Taking tissue samples from fresh fruit bodies directly to tissue culture grown trees may also be an interesting experiment.
I'm interested to see if anyone can provide any useful data regarding these experiments not only for Amanita but for other Ectomycorrhizal Fungi also.
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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: tetherface]
    #22400716 - 10/18/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Update:

Forty eight hours after inoculation, one of my jars is beginning to show signs of colonization just like the tek said.

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So what are your plans with your "endless supply of psychoactive mycelium"  do you take this shit on the regular or just trying to kill off a few friends?




I take it on the regular, that's why I want to grow. I was spending a fortune on dried amanitas. I consider amanita to be the supreme entheogen. Nothing else is as good.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22400763 - 10/18/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Please post pics of the process, if you can.
Also, in contrast to what healing said, do you have any methods you use before or during a trip on amanitas to control the trip to make it more pleasant? I remember you being very religious and having very religious experiences on amanitas. Do you pray during your experience?


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22400859 - 10/19/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I do pray during the experiences but I don't use prayer to guide the experience the way I might with mescaline or psilocybin. For me, amanita is much more conductive to meditation than to prayer, or at least active/verbal prayer. It's more about silence and stillness, which could be considered prayer (according to adyashanti meditation is a form of prayer) but what I do is focus on/tune into the energy amanita provides me with and meditate beside it, trying to my match my vibration with its.

Another way to guide the experience which I have found, is listening to shamanic drumming which I discovered courtesy of John Scott, an Australian guy who had a  life changing NDE after mistakening amanita for an edible mushroom and eating a huge dosage. You can find these healing drumming meditations in his videos section on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnscottartist/videos they are perfect for amanita just like the native american peyote healing music is perfect for mescaline. I also sometimes listen to his talks or read Jacob Boehme who was a Lutheran theologian and mystic who used aminita.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22401016 - 10/19/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How will you be sure you have germinated Amanita spores and not a contaminant mold or other fungi?


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: inski]
    #22401084 - 10/19/15 02:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think he didnt use spores!


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: inski]
    #22402810 - 10/19/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How will you be sure you have germinated Amanita spores and not a contaminant mold or other fungi?




because they dont grow as fast, im pretty sure what i have is amanita mycellium it has grown rapidly since last nigtt. i just need to watch for signs of contamination.


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: healing]
    #22402907 - 10/19/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have only experienced 1 High dose Amanita trip. And it was absolutely fucking terrible.
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It's just a deliriant. The possibilities of delirium are endless. You could have a dangerously high fever or almost die of heat stroke if you want. It doesn't matter how you get to that state, it's the same basic nonsense experience each time. Just take a more readily available deliriant and save yourself some trouble.




I've experienced delerium from dangerously high fevers and don't find it at all similar to what I experience on amanita. With amanita there is the potential for great clarify, insight, and healing. ever experienced any of that from a fever, just confusion.




Delirium is by definition just a decline from your baseline cognitive function. You're basically turning off cognitive function. You're declining your ability to comprehend your reality.

It's just noise. You can't tell what's real and what's not. Even if you could you can't process what's happening. You can't even understand your own thoughts. You're left waking from one entirely random absurd dream into another for an eternity until your mind regains its ability to comprehend the passage of time. It's just luck. It's like forcing yourself to think in complete nonsense. Sometimes you're going to be in boat floating above the desert eating pineapple, sometimes you're going to have deep spiritual experiences. There's no predicting the specifics. They're infinite. But the same thing is going to happen every time, eternal waking meaningless nonsense dreams.




I ate 20g.

However, 8g (moderate dosage) is very euphoric, warm, beautiful/colorful. Happy!


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Re: Attempt at growing amanita muscaria mycellium on barley aka "The Living Bread" [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22403050 - 10/19/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How will you be sure you have germinated Amanita spores and not a contaminant mold or other fungi?




because they dont grow as fast, im pretty sure what i have is amanita mycellium it has grown rapidly since last nigtt. i just need to watch for signs of contamination.



Ok, good luck.


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