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Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. 1
#22388134 - 10/16/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wayne Simmons was arrested yesterday for lying about being a former CIA operative. This guy has been on Fox News for years. Doesn't fox do any background checks. What a joke of a "news organization." In addition, this guy was supposed to be an expert on Benghazi.

Fox News 'terror expert' Waayne Simmons arrested for lying about 27-year career as CIA officer
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A frequent Fox News guest analyst has been charged with fraud after falsely claiming to be a former CIA agent, US prosecutors say.
Wayne Simmons of Annapolis, Maryland, portrayed himself as an "outside paramilitary special operations officer" for the Central Intelligence Agency from 1973 to 2000.
He allegedly tried to use that claim to get government security clearances and work as a defence contractor.
The 62-year-old was arrested on Thursday after a grand jury indicted him in connection to alleged misconduct, including major fraud and making false statements to the government.
The indictment said that Simmons falsely claimed on national security forms that his previous arrests and convictions were related to his CIA work and that he had held a top secret security clearance.
At one point he was deployed overseas as an intelligence adviser to senior military officers, the US attorney's office for Virginia's Eastern District said in a statement.
He has appeared on Fox News as a guest analyst on terrorism since 2002, a profile on Amazon.com said.
Fox News spokeswoman Carly Shanahan said Mr Simmons had been a guest on the network and had not been paid.
The Amazon.com profile said he worked in anti-narcotics operations and in 2004 was part of Pentagon program for military and intelligence analysts.
He also spoke at a 2013 forum sponsored by the Citizens Committee on Benghazi, probing the deaths of four Americans in Libya in 2012 and the role of then-secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388160 - 10/16/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's a few fellows in Politics who would argue the point with you until they're blue in the face, often proclaiming how credible Fox "News" is.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Le_Canard]
#22388187 - 10/16/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can't find a single mention of this on the Fox News website.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Le_Canard] 1
#22388199 - 10/16/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I refuse to watch cable news until they put more explosions on the air, and all of the blonde female anchors go topless. They haven't met my standards for reality TV yet, but I'm glad they're still trying.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Mr.GuessWork] 1
#22388217 - 10/16/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not?
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#22388225 - 10/16/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread has got to be a lie.
FOX News already went to court for fraud, and the case was dropped, with the judge saying that it's not illegal for them to make up fictional stories.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#22388231 - 10/16/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fox isn't in trouble, they just look dumb. Wayne Simmons is in trouble because he lied to the government on security applications.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: The Moose]
#22388234 - 10/16/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
Sounds like he got away with it for quite a while. I would have thought that a national media figure falsely claiming to have worked for the CIA would have caught the attention of people who really do work for the CIA a lot sooner.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: The Moose]
#22388237 - 10/16/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
He got away with it on Fox News for so long I guess he thought it was all true.
The indictment also says he defrauded someone out of $125k in a real estate scam. What a quality guy.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388240 - 10/16/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said:
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
Sounds like he got away with it for quite a while. I would have thought that a national media figure falsely claiming to have worked for the CIA would have caught the attention of people who really do work for the CIA a lot sooner.
No man it's the perfect scam. People who work at the CIA may not know who else is working at the CIA.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388241 - 10/16/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well based on the quote in the OP I believe he was in intelligence, just not as tough shit as he seemed to make himself out to be.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388247 - 10/16/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
He got away with it on Fox News for so long I guess he thought it was all true.
The indictment also says he defrauded someone out of $125k in a real estate scam. What a quality guy.
Cut him a break, he's probably just a forgetful old man. Senility is probably at the root of this real estate scam too I'd guess.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388254 - 10/16/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Durh, sorry I forgot I took $125k from you, I'm old LOL."
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388264 - 10/16/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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psi said:
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
Sounds like he got away with it for quite a while. I would have thought that a national media figure falsely claiming to have worked for the CIA would have caught the attention of people who really do work for the CIA a lot sooner.
No man it's the perfect scam. People who work at the CIA may not know who else is working at the CIA.
True, but with all the people they keep tabs on for questionable reasons, you would think they would do their own background checks on a prominent public figure claiming to have worked for them.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: The Moose]
#22388266 - 10/16/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Moose said: "Durh, sorry I forgot I took $125k from you, I'm old LOL."
Yeah exactly.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388273 - 10/16/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said:
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koods said:
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psi said:
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The Moose said: What a dumbass. Did he think the government wouldn't know if they issued him a clearance or not? 
Sounds like he got away with it for quite a while. I would have thought that a national media figure falsely claiming to have worked for the CIA would have caught the attention of people who really do work for the CIA a lot sooner.
No man it's the perfect scam. People who work at the CIA may not know who else is working at the CIA.
True, but with all the people they keep tabs on for questionable reasons, you would think they would do their own background checks on a prominent public figure claiming to have worked for them.
It's probably not illegal to say you worked for the CIA. It only becomes fraud if you actually use the lie to make money. I think the guy was ultimately arrested for making false statements to the government.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388283 - 10/16/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, yeah I guess he wasn't taking money for the TV appearances. They still could have outed him if they knew about it though, even if there wasn't anything he could be charged with.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388289 - 10/16/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fox news is just a bunch of bs
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388291 - 10/16/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They aren't going to out him. As far as I can Fox is completely ignoring the story.
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#22388328 - 10/16/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You seem like a smart guy koods, so I find it hard to believe that someone like you is just figuring out that Faux news is a joke.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Lucis]
#22388335 - 10/16/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've known they are a joke for years. Sometimes people need to be shown exactly why they are a joke though.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388355 - 10/16/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Can't find a single mention of this on the Fox News website.
Can't imagine you would xD
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Shiithead]
#22388403 - 10/16/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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He was an occasional guest who was not paid by Fox. I never heard of him before.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388408 - 10/16/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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He was on nearly a hundred times
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388415 - 10/16/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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See. Now do you believe me that I don't watch it? They didn't pay him and if anything they were the bigger victims of fraud. If he actually committed any. I don't care enough about either him or Fox to investigate.
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#22388417 - 10/16/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ShortbusExplosion said: Fox news is just a bunch of bs
That is why it's proper spelling is Faux news.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388418 - 10/16/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: They aren't going to out him. As far as I can Fox is completely ignoring the story.
Oh, I meant that the CIA could have outed him if they knew what was going on.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388422 - 10/16/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fox News is dick and cheese. fuck them
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: psi]
#22388429 - 10/16/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think CIA is in the business of confirming nor denying who has worked for the agency
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388506 - 10/16/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Actually I think they are.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388528 - 10/16/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know about that.
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#22388562 - 10/16/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If somebody makes a claim they worked for the CIA and they didn't I do believe they say so when asked.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388569 - 10/16/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dunno. I feel like they don't really make many public comments, especially about who they employ.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388597 - 10/16/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Reminds me of all the people who steal valor.
Which reminds me of my costume for this season, I am going to steal the valor of a roman soldier.
Not really, just wanted to poke fun at stolen valor, even though I think people who do it are trash or mentally ill.
I know a guy from school, he's much older and has a lot of way out there claims that seems really unbelievable though everyone else seems to give him the benefit of the doubt, no one really questions it and he's pretty open about it to everyone including teachers. Heard him talk to other vets too and they didn't seem alarmed.
I believe he was in the army and did a bunch of stuff but I dunno - some of things he says are pretty fantastical like movie plot type stuff..
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: The Moose]
#22388600 - 10/16/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think they would be more than happy to say, "no, he never worked here." if you ask them.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388609 - 10/16/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea but that also brings up the people who did. They either have to say yes they actually did, which may cause an issue, no, which may also cause an issue. I feel like it may just be more effective to withhold comment. 
This is all speculative though lol.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388616 - 10/16/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I always thought the whole "won't confirm or deny" spiel was for people who really did work for them. Never looked into this stuff too closely though.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: The Moose]
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The Moose said: Yea but that also brings up the people who did. They either have to say yes they actually did, which may cause an issue, no, which may also cause an issue. I feel like it may just be more effective to withhold comment. 
This is all speculative though lol.
This is exactly right. If you go around confirming who hasn't worked for the CIA, you end up implying who has worked for them.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
#22388734 - 10/16/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Every major news outlet is bias. Did you watch the CNN debates?
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods]
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CNN may also be in trouble for distorting the facts about the recent Democratic debate to favor Hillary
http://thebernreport.com/sign-the-petition-to-investigate-cnn-for-public-deception/
"After the Democrat debate aired by CNN on Oct 13, 2015, CNN themselves purposely altered the story, and edited the coverage video afterwards, along with deleting their own public online polls, with what appears to be an intention, to skew the public’s perception of who was the actual ‘winner’ of the debate. Their own poll showed Senator (I) Bernie Sanders clearly ahead of Sec. Hillary Clinton. With over 85% of online pollsters supporting Sen. Sanders, CNN reported, and continues to support the view that Hillary Clinton ‘won’ the debate. This is a clear deception, and lie to the American public, at a time, when we need the truth regarding our political leaders. It is our belief, that Time Warner, Inc, as a large contributor to the Clinton campaign, is attempting to buy the election!"
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Yeah definitely.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388871 - 10/16/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's true that he was winning the CNN online poll before they took it down.
The coverage and all that other stuff.. Dunno.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: D.M.T]
#22389909 - 10/16/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meanwhile, within the offices of the CIA, agents are now worried, wondering which other agents could secretly be Faux News spies...
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: koods] 1
#22390368 - 10/16/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Wayne Simmons was arrested yesterday for lying about being a former CIA operative. This guy has been on Fox News for years.
kinda like the libtard reporter Brian Williams that got busted with all his bogus war claims
what about these jackasses from the Clinton News Network that didnt just lie, they staged being in Saudi Arabia during desert storm when in reality they were on a sound stage in Atlanta... remember 'wag the dog', yeah...
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22390474 - 10/16/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The sirens at the end almost convinced me it was real.
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Re: Fox News is a joke: Their big CIA go-to-guy arrested for fraud. [Re: WScott]
#22390592 - 10/16/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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one grabs a gas mask, the other grabs a helmet. ted turner wasnt giving them shit for a budget
there's dozens of the vids out there
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