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Not properly hydrated spores
    #22387528 - 10/16/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys:
This is my first post. I have a question, i'm new in this very interesting world. Some years ago i suffered a severe brain damage by a viral disease, i'm absolutely fine after a lot of work, but i still feel some damage, some time ago i was reading about how psilocibin stimulates neurogenesis, so i've been researching by myself, so i decided give it a try. I bought spores, prepared wheat grain(pftek for me is no viable, in my country is nearly imposible get vermiculite). But i think that i didn't left hydratate properly the spores when i prepared the syringe from spore seal. A week happened since then, i only prepared two jars to test my first time,no one show signs of psilocibe micellium or contamination. Do you think that altough spores wasn't good hydrated could be a chance to germinate. I've been thiking, that given that there's no contamination make a syringe with properly hydrated spores.

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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22387593 - 10/16/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The spores will hydrate in the syringe, I think its good practice to leave the syringe for a bit before using but I think you will be ok.

Sometimes it takes quite a while to see germination, a week isn't long. Be patient

Although you don't see contamination, things like mold will hide in your grain. It will look and behave Just fine but contaminate when you put your substrate into fruiting conditions.
I have had many successful grows going from spore syringe to grains. But making a truly clean syringe is very difficult. I s ugguest you learn to germinate your culture on agar first, and inoculate your grains with that.

I dont mean this as discouragement! Just good advice. Since you are starting off in this hobby with grains you might as well do it proper and start with agar :thumbup:

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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: mushpunx]
    #22407264 - 10/20/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hi mushpunk:

Thanks for your advices, more than discouragment thats make me more motivated, may be depending results i will try with agar, i have some biology knowledge.
By the way aparently spores began to germinate, but i`m a little worried ´cause in the area where i spread syringe content two or three kernels have a pale green color while others look covered with white powder, in some place i read that sometimes that kind of coloration happens when colonization init, anyway i think that is early to say if it`s really or not contamination, i know it will be a slow process i dont count with anykind of incubator, but in my country we dont have seasons(some says that here there´s an everlasting spring :smile:) so temperature is nearly 'constant' all year around so inside my apartment.

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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22407295 - 10/20/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Most of us only use incubators when temps are below 60, some peo ppl below 65.

If your room temp is above 60 you probably don't need one. Shouldnt be much slower if any.


But pale green, powdery white? Sound contaminated absolutely man. Sorry to say. Post a picture if you want but Im almost sure of it from the description


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22407297 - 10/20/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

6-8 days is probably the peak of the bell curve when it comes to spore germination. 

Unfortunately, there is basically no instance where green or white powder would be anything other than contamination.  Cube mycellium should appear appear at least somewhat fiberous and demonstrate spheric growth within a few days of germination.

Just want to double check and make sure that you have a pressure cooker.  Otherwise grains are not really an option.

Good luck finding what you need.  I'm not sure if you can really regrow brain material with psilocin, but I can certainly see it helping your brain to learn new ways to circumnavigate the damage.  Also it's about the best experience ever.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: mushpunx]
    #22407411 - 10/20/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos] * 1
    #22407419 - 10/20/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not good

Not cubensis


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22407445 - 10/20/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just want to double check and make sure that you have a pressure cooker.  Otherwise grains are not really an option.




Of course 90 minuts at 12psi(83kpa)


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22407465 - 10/20/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thats some strange growth listen th o bodi he knows his shit....def not cubensis myc and fyi I make syringes from print and use them right away normally with no issues depending on the print...I think hydration becomes an issue when working with a very old print(seversl years old)good luck bro


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: tetherface]
    #22407510 - 10/20/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well i opened the jar and oficially my first time was a fail XD :confused: :grin:, anyway i will do a pair more of tries and i`ll do with agar.

Thanks guys for your support

By the way do you know where i can find pics of first stages of colonization?


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22407595 - 10/20/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Click on gallery at the top of the page its in there somewhere im sure if not I can snap a pic I have spores germinating on grain ATM but its been a few days so im not sure if its what your looking for


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22407600 - 10/20/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: spacechildo]
    #22429720 - 10/24/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

THANKS!!!!
I discovered what happened last time, i think that i found the contamination fountain, a perlite that used to put into the jars, i forget sterilize before use it. Reason? I made a third jar only with grains and spores hydrated two days, and grains looks more like the ones on the link spacechildo shared. I`ll be posting pics
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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: kaamos]
    #22429738 - 10/24/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You.. put perlite in jars?

-Why?
-What makes you think that would cause the problem if you sterilized the jars?

So those white clumps.. those aren't growth.. those are perlite??  :facepalm:


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430031 - 10/24/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The perlite is there to hydrate the spore


Seriously though op, I am curious as to what tek you are following or where you got your information from.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: newrook]
    #22430038 - 10/24/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Seriously though op, I am curious as to what tek you are following or where you got your information from.




I better see some kinda weird tek from the 80s, written in chinese, xerox'd from the back of a pizza box, in PDF form.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430060 - 10/24/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Some uncle fester, anarchist cookbook literature.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22430102 - 10/24/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like he's doing brf tek but instead of verm he's using perlite. Definitely wont work but hopefully provides clarification.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: puff4200]
    #22430137 - 10/24/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Love when people put an inert volcanic glass in their substrates.  Gotta love that buncha crunch.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430153 - 10/24/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

To be fair in marijuana growing there almost interchangeable ALMOST. Not totally but almost.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: puff4200]
    #22430338 - 10/25/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I used some perlite/verm for some passive hydro stuff, but plant analogies get people into so much counterproductive thinking, I never even entertained the idea.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: Inocuole]
    #22430933 - 10/25/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go full dwc don't mess with passive hydro with those hempy buckets. Difference of half pound per light.


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: puff4200]
    #22430939 - 10/25/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like some bullshit from erowid to be honest lol. Kids thinking that place is accurate and reliable


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Re: Not properly hydrated spores [Re: puff4200]
    #22430959 - 10/25/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Eh I just did that once.  Was recommended it by somebody and gave it a shot.  Wouldn't fuck with it again.


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