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Touch deadly mushrooms
    #22387471 - 10/16/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, yesterday i was cleaning my yard and found some mushrooms, I have no idea that they were poisonous or not but emerged me a doubt. I've looked several answers here in the forum but I was not clear.

Touching poisonous mushrooms by hand (without sleeve) can be poisoned? Or just eat the mushrooms is that I can be poisoned?

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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: rjp]
    #22387571 - 10/16/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just eating. You can touch any mushroom you like. Though if you are handling poisonous mushrooms, I'd advise you to wash your hands afterwards, you know, so you don't eat anything or suck on your thumb.


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: azur]
    #22387608 - 10/16/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I understand. So another question, if i touch the poisonous mushroom with some object , the toxins are active for how long? or die?


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: rjp]
    #22387629 - 10/16/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That i do not know. Although only a few of the 70-80 species of poisonous mushrooms are actually fatal when ingested.  I'm not sure about toxins traveling on objects. I would assume most of the toxin is on the inside of the mushroom rather than on the "skin" of it.


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: azur]
    #22387637 - 10/16/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ok ok, it was just curiosity. therefore I can rest assured that even grab his hand in a poisonous mushroom nothing happens right?


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: rjp]
    #22387648 - 10/16/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, correct. Like i said though, to be safe just wash your hands before eating any food after handling them.


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: azur]
    #22388161 - 10/16/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, for help. if someone wants to write another answer to my doubts, is welcome :smile:


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: rjp]
    #22388171 - 10/16/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/wong/BOT135/Lect17a.htm


"Because so little was known about mushrooms, many misconceptions concerning the edibility of mushrooms have developed. Some of the more common ones are briefly discussed below:

There is a fool-proof test for distinguishing edible from poisonous mushrooms.  The most common ones that can be heard are that "a poisonous mushroom will turn silver black while it is being cooked", "if you can peel the cap of the mushroom it is safe to eat" and "observing which mushrooms foraging animals consume will tell you which species are safe to eat". While there are some generalizations that can be made within certain groups of mushrooms, there is no fool-proof test that can be used for all mushrooms. Those species of mushrooms that are edible are known to be edible because someone at one time had tried it and discovered it to be safe to eat.

Most mushrooms are poisonous. Of the thousands of species known, perhaps 60 or so are poisonous, and of these only a handful will be fatal if consumed (these numbers will vary depending on your source). However, it does not require a lot of mushroom to poison a lot of people. In Europe, of those that die mushroom poisoning, probably 90% die as a result of mistaking Amanita phalloides (Death Cap) forAmanita calytroderma (Coccora). The remaining species, however, are not necessarily good to eat. I am using edible here to means non-poisonous and not necessarily good to eat. Thus, an edible mushroom may have a strong bitter, peppery or some other unpleasant taste, be bland or have no taste at all.

There are a large number of people that die from mushroom poisoning each year. "Large" is somewhat ambiguous here. If we are talking about the number of people that go out collecting for mushrooms each year, in this country, then the number of people that die as a result of mushroom poisoning is few relative to that number.

Poisonous mushrooms must taste bad. As indicated above, many mushrooms that are non-poisonous may have a very bad taste. The opposite can also be true. Amanita phalloides is said to have a quite pleasant taste, but is one of the most deadly species of poisonous mushrooms.

You can be poisoned by touching a poisonous mushroom. As deadly as some toxins may be, touching the mushroom is harmless. The harmful toxins in mushrooms must be consumed in order to harm you.

Collecting mushrooms for consumption is unsafe and even experts have died from picking the wrong mushrooms. This last misconception is the one that continues to be perpetuated by the news media every year. Probably every year, you can read a headline that goes something like "Expert Mushroom Hunter Dies From Eating Deadly Mushroom". However, upon closer examination of such a story it is often the case that the person that died is far from being an expert. Even those who are avid collectors that have been foraging for wild mushrooms, for only a short period of time, are unlikely to die from mushroom poisoning, if they have even had a minimum of training in the do's and don'ts of mushroom collecting and if common sense is used. There are a number of species that are very good to eat that cannot be mistaken for other species. If collectors stick with those species, mushroom poisoning is highly unlikely. New species can be tried through interaction with other collectors who have eaten other species.

Species determined to be edible are always safe to eat. Whenever a new species is tried for the first time, even if it is one that is highly regarded and is said to be being very tasty, it is best to be cautious. Try only a few bites and wait 24 hours before consuming more. There are a vast number of compounds that occur in wild mushrooms that may cause adverse reactions, when consumed by a few individuals, but are safe for the general public. There is also the possibility of an allergic response to a particular species. Other precautions that should be taken:

When preparing mushrooms for a meal, always inspect the mushrooms to determine if it is firm and fresh. Bacterial and fungal decomposition may be taking place in old mushrooms.

Avoid eating raw mushrooms. Many edible species have toxins that are heat sensitive and will be rendered harmless by cooking the mushroom. Also, the cell wall of mushrooms is composed of chitin, which the human digestive system cannot break down. must also be degraded by heat so that we can absorb nutrients within cells. If the cell walls remain intact, the nutrients in the mushrooms will simply pass through our digestive system. Cooking will break down the cell wall and release its contents, which are digestible.

Mushroom are of no nutritional value. Although mushrooms will never be one of the world’s staples, it has been a food supplement in various cultures. Nutritionally speaking, mushrooms fall between the best vegetables and animal protein source. Their protein content may vary anywhere between 15-40% of dry weight (keep in mind that mushrooms are more than 90% water). However, all essential amino acids are present in mushrooms, as well as water-soluble vitamins and all the minerals that our bodies require are present. A generous serving of mushrooms (0.5 lb) of fresh mushrooms provides approximately 70 kcal."


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: azur]
    #22388198 - 10/16/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

thanks.. This is a study of a university?


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: rjp]
    #22388212 - 10/16/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's more of an article than a study. I'm going for a bike ride. Read up.


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Re: Touch deadly mushrooms [Re: azur]
    #22388344 - 10/16/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

According to this article : "You can be poisoned by touching a poisonous mushroom?? -  As deadly as some toxins may be, touching the mushroom is harmless. The harmful toxins in mushrooms must be consumed in order to harm you."

So seems to be true what you said to me azur ! Thanks


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