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cultivation project using millet Tek
    #22383538 - 10/15/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm only experienced with PF TEK with great success thanks to you guys, that's why I am reviewing my plan with you before starting it, kindly review it and if you find anything to be wrong, please let me know.. cheers :mushroom2:
1) Open the organic Millet bag.
2) Rinse the Millet well.
3) Transfer the Millet into a pan, cover it with water and let it soak for 10 hours.
4) Rinse after 10 hours, into a big pan let it simmer for 20-30 minutes with frequent stirring to prevent lower grains from popping.
5) After the suitable water content is reached, let it boil for less than a minute (the boiling as RR said is to help evaporate the water off the grain surface, he was speaking of Rye but I think it's the same with all grains).
6) Get your jars, using a 1/4 drill bit screw a hole into the lid, stick a piece of polyfill -from a new pillow- into the lid not too light not too tight.
7) Fill two thirds of your jars with the prepared Millet, close the lid tight, cover the lids with double layer of Tin foil and fix it using a tight rubber band.
8) Move the jars into the PC, jars must not sit on the PC floor, then add enough water to your PC so that it only comes up to about 1-1 1/2 inches up the sides of the jars, cook for 60 minutes at 15 psi.
9) let the pressure drop, and let the jars cool to touch, then shake the jars well to obtain uniform wetness through all grains.
10) Leave the jars to completely cool overnight, remove the foil off the cap and inoculate 1.5 cc out of a spore syringe.
11) Fix the the foil back on the lids and store the jars in a warm dark spot and wait for magic to happen. (I don't get the benefit of the polyfill when it is going to be covered with tin foil through out the mycelium growth period and during the sterilisation period !!)
12) shake the jars every 4 days, jars should be ready and fully colonised in about 15 days.
13) after full colonisation, open the lids and transfer the colonised Millet into trays, then case 1.5 Inches on top and cover the trays with tin foil, restore the trays into a warm dark place for a few days for the mycelium to colonise the casing layer. (It'd be great if you guys recommend a casing layer to use)
14) Now, it's time for the fruiting phase, remove the foil off the trays to expose the mycelium to oxygen, light and humidity.
15) People may argue on this step, I'll use one filter bag for each tray as it's own fruiting chamber, put half a cup of water into each filter bag, then put each respective tray into its filter bag, so the water is covering just an inch or two of the sides of the tray.
16) Will keep these mini fruiting chambers in indirect day light, lower temperature. To be sure the humidity is high, the inside walls of the filter bags have to have condensed droplets of water.
17) In 10 days or less, i should expect pins to appear


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Aliz]
    #22383552 - 10/15/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: tripdawg420]
    #22383929 - 10/15/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Search for : how foo prepares wild bird seed

This is the best FASTEST tek for millet too...and from personal experience as i only use millet.

And you shouldnt use rubber i think it can melt.

You dont close the jars tightly before pcing as they might broke.

After inoculating you dont put the foil back as you want gas exchange and the polyfill act as a filter to keep away bacteria and the other bad stuff.

Storing in a dark place isnt the optimal for the myc to grow you want 12/12 light/dark...and not so warm!

Some people shake alot but usually after 30+% growth and maybe another one after that and thats it.

Spawn to bulk in a tub (its easy)...that would be way better than casing straight grains!
use coir, vermiculite and gypsum as they are noob friendly and hard to catch contams.

Id suggest reading : shroomery 101 thread and you ll find everything you need there.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: oontribe]
    #22385981 - 10/15/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

12 light/ 12 dark, isn't this the fruiting phase conditions. To my knowledge and experience mycelium has to grow in 80F, dark place like in PF TEK, right?


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Aliz]
    #22386604 - 10/16/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Aliz said:
12 light/ 12 dark, isn't this the fruiting phase conditions. To my knowledge and experience mycelium has to grow in 80F, dark place like in PF TEK, right?



Outdated info... Use 12/light 12/ dark from the start...use "Indirect" light for colonization... And "Direct" light for Fruiting. This establishes a circadian rhythm for the Mycelium. Make sure your light is 6500k (color it's on the box) I use CFL bulbs set on a timer. It makes life alot easier.
Temp is a little high, but people debate that on here. I find that a little lower works best for me...around 70 to 75F. Don't forget your jars are a few degrees hotter than the air temp. I like to make sure it doesn't go above 80F while colonizing... When you get to Fruiting lower temps make thicker, meatier, fruits. In a spawned tub, the temperature can get hotter than you think.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Darkhome]
    #22386907 - 10/16/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The main problem im having with millet is they always seem to burst. Last I did some jars I soaked them and pced for 1 hour( which I think is too little cos my pc doesnt reach 15 psi). About half of them still burst ao now I bought a new canner online. Hopefully it will arrive in 2 weeks time. I am looking forward to successfully colonise at least 1 grain jar as so far I must have threw away over 40euro (about 50 usd?) worth of grains. Not cool at all.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22386921 - 10/16/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wooow in my country for 2€ i can buy 5kilos of millet!

And follow the tek that i told you about.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: oontribe]
    #22386941 - 10/16/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here I pay 1.15 euro per 250g. I mix it with spelt which costs 82c per 250g. Even popcorn is expensive at 95c per 200g.

Nah for now im taking a break from grains if these new jars stall again. Nothing wrong with the tek im using (they are all the same anyway just little tweaks here and there). I think its my pc thats screwing everything up.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22386977 - 10/16/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In my country we use rye, and oats.... and I don't even really care how much it costs...:highfive:America


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22386987 - 10/16/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Here rye grains dont exist lol. Yea I wish my country was closer to the US cos shit is extra cheap there. and you have the 2 piece jar lids.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #22387029 - 10/16/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, every tek is different...for example you soak for 10 hrs but with foo's tek you only soak in hot water for 20 mins and drain for 45 mins!


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: oontribe]
    #22387098 - 10/16/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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oontribe said:
No, every tek is different...for example you soak for 10 hrs but with foo's tek you only soak in hot water for 20 mins and drain for 45 mins!




As I said tiny differences here and there. One you do it if you remember the night before and one you do it if you forget to soak. Both quite literally do the same thing which is hydrate your grains.


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Aliz]
    #22409219 - 10/20/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for your comment :smile:

I don't seem to find a thread by the name "How foo prepares wild bird seed", I'd appreciate it if you reply with a url


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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Aliz]
    #22409407 - 10/20/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: cultivation project using millet Tek [Re: Aliz]
    #22409978 - 10/20/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

1) Open the organic Millet bag. Never open the bag.  Use telekinesis to tesseract the grains out.
2) Rinse the Millet well.  probably not necessary with straight millet
3) Transfer the Millet into a pan, cover it with water and let it soak for 10 hours.
4) Rinse after 10 hours, into a big pan let it simmer for 20-30 minutes with frequent stirring to prevent lower grains from popping.  This sounds like a long time to simmer, but I use a different prep so it might be right.
5) After the suitable water content is reached, let it boil for less than a minute (the boiling as RR said is to help evaporate the water off the grain surface, he was speaking of Rye but I think it's the same with all grains).  How can you evaporate water from the grain surface while it's still in the water?  Just strain/colander it.  I'd guess millet itself drains pretty fast.
6) Get your jars, using a 1/4 drill bit screw a hole into the lid, stick a piece of polyfill -from a new pillow- into the lid not too light not too tight.  I'd just use a thick nail or a metal punch, I think drilling will be more work and mangle it more.
7) Fill two thirds of your jars with the prepared Millet, close the lid tight, cover the lids with double layer of Tin foil and fix it using a tight rubber band.  One layer of foil is fine and you dont need a rubberband, just scrunch it on.  This mostly just prevents the filter from getting soaked with falling condensation and becoming ineffective as the cooker cools down, and keeps the polyfill clean so contams aren't dragged through as needle goes in to inject spores.  I don't use poly, but I'd think you'd want it as tight as you could get it reasonably.
8) Move the jars into the PC, jars must not sit on the PC floor, then add enough water to your PC so that it only comes up to about 1-1 1/2 inches up the sides of the jars, cook for 60 minutes at 15 psi.  Not sure how your PC is configured and if it has a bottom grate, but it's preferable that the jars not contact the water, as this keeps the water contact area hot much longer and can lead to clumping.  Also 60 mins is a bare minimum for quarts, 90m is safer.  I suggest running your PC empty to learn it's behavior and how fast it expends water.
9) let the pressure drop, and let the jars cool to touch, then shake the jars well to obtain uniform wetness through all grains.
10) Leave the jars to completely cool overnight, remove the foil off the cap and inoculate 1.5 cc out of a spore syringe.  1/4 to 1/2cc on each side of the jar will do fine (for a total of 1/2cc to 1cc per jar
11) Fix the the foil back on the lids and store the jars in a warm dark spot and wait for magic to happen. (I don't get the benefit of the polyfill when it is going to be covered with tin foil through out the mycelium growth period and during the sterilisation period !!)
  There is no need to put the foil back on after inoculation.  Darkness is irrelevant.  Warmth is bad unless you live somewhere cold.  65-75F is good.
12) shake the jars every 4 days, jars should be ready and fully colonized in about 15 days.  No.  Shake once after spores germination at 15-30% colonization.  This redistributes colonized grains all over the jar and effectively inoculates the whole jar.  Shakes have a 1-3 day recovery time, so shaking more will only delay your end results.
13) after full colonization, open the lids and transfer the colonized Millet into trays, then case 1.5 Inches on top and cover the trays with tin foil, restore the trays into a warm dark place for a few days for the mycelium to colonies the casing layer. (It'd be great if you guys recommend a casing layer to use)
Spawning to coco coir will give considerably better results than cased straight grains, and is neither harder nor riskier.  Check out frank's 12 steps.
14) Now, it's time for the fruiting phase, remove the foil off the trays to expose the mycelium to oxygen, light and humidity.
15) People may argue on this step, I'll use one filter bag for each tray as it's own fruiting chamber, put half a cup of water into each filter bag, then put each respective tray into its filter bag, so the water is covering just an inch or two of the sides of the tray.
16) Will keep these mini fruiting chambers in indirect day light, lower temperature. To be sure the humidity is high, the inside walls of the filter bags have to have condensed droplets of water.
17) In 10 days or less, i should expect pins to appear
Them fruiting chambers sound pretty sketch to me.  Read some guides from this site, ask for some recommendations.  It seems where ever you're getting your info from, it's pretty outdated in some ways.  Monotubs or MSG's are the way to go.  Good luck.  Sorry for bleeding on you.


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