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OfflineNear Dylan
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Training an Addictive Personality?
    #22383481 - 10/15/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are there any methods on how to train your body (and/or mind) to have less addiction potential? Such as previous addictions making you more "used to" getting addicted and more knowledgeable in avoiding dependence, or having the opposite effect. I'm more specifically asking about physical withdrawals as opposed to mental. Is there a way to train your body to have less intense withdrawals, make the duration of them shorter, etc? Anyone have any ideas?? Reputable links? More scientific knowledge than me?
On a related note, does anyone have any experience with quitting a physically dependent drug more than once? (preferably while using a similar amount each time. Were withdrawals worse the first or last time? The same?


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22383547 - 10/15/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Personal experience, being severely addicted to a substance and breaking that addiction makes you a stronger person, but that doesn't mean you are immune to addiction.

I was addicted to amphetamines very severely for around 2 years. I broke that addiction through pure determination and will power (and the help of weed and ephedrine :tongue2:)

Here recently, i found myself mildly addicted to opiates. I know how strong addiction can be (hell, I'm still addicted to nicotine and will probably be until i die). So i backed off before it got bad, and ignored the cravings. Havent used opiates since. I probably wouln't had done that a few years ago (well, I certainly wouldn't have... Giving into cravings started my speed addiction).

So, experience with addiction can help you understand it more, which can be helpful to prevent future addictions. I dont recommend getting addiction to a substance because breaking an addiction is a god awful hell i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.

And I only quit speed once. My addiction started slow (took a few months of use before daily use began) and i went out with a bang, going cold turkey on huge daily doses of amphetamines. This was two years ago now, and i still cant get high from amphetamines. So, I'll never have to worry about getting addicted to em again. I took like 150mg vyvanse in june after not touching the shit for over two years and all i got was the jitters and severe chest pain.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22383557 - 10/15/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Withdrawals are terrible. For anything. Tread lightly. Someone with an addictive personality would be doing themselves and their life a major disservice. Please be safe OP.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22383568 - 10/15/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There are many aspects of Buddhist meditation that work with these types of personality traits.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22383579 - 10/15/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the good responses :cheers:
I wasn't recommending people to get addicted to opiates and go through detox just so they'll be more accustomed to withdrawals :lol: But possibly a certain diet (if that doesn't sound too ridiculous). Does Ibogaine ease physical withdraws? Any experiences with Ibogaine treatment?
Meditation works very well for mental dependence, but does a decreased mental tolerance make withdrawals seem less intense?
I'm also really interested in the idea of "withdrawal tolerance" if you want to call it that. I'd like to know if anybody quit something with strong withdrawals such as opiates, and when they quit again after relapsing, withdrawals didn't seem as bad. Or worse


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22383619 - 10/15/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I believe meditation would confer that benefit.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #22383761 - 10/15/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Or you could view you addiction as an asset and use it to your advantage


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: theonlysun81]
    #22383778 - 10/15/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I usually always hear that it gets harder and harder each phase of use you go thru and quit especially from opiates


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #22383851 - 10/15/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is true IME. The mindfuck gets you and you're in a whole new world of hurt. Then you fix again, get sick again, fix again...


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Adden]
    #22384284 - 10/15/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I recently tried to quit benzos and got barely any physical withdraws (surprisingly). I guess I can't really use it to my advantage tho, huh? :lol:
Anyone have any advice on benzo addiction?


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22384867 - 10/15/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. Don't do it. You'll be wishing you had opiate withdrawals. Benzo withdrawals can kill.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22384906 - 10/15/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Near Dylan said:
I recently tried to quit benzos and got barely any physical withdraws (surprisingly). I guess I can't really use it to my advantage tho, huh? :lol:
Anyone have any advice on benzo addiction?




A quote from someone struggling with memory issues after 15 years of daily use..

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I'm having some disconcerting short-term and long-term memory issues. I have been on the same dose of benzodiazepines as an anxiety treatment for almost 15 years and it is starting to take its toll. I recently found out my mother is getting dementia and there were a few others on my father's side I never knew of. There is now more research available regarding early onset dementia for long-term use. Particularly in people with a genetic predisposition. I don't want to be brain dead by 45.




I believe the study mentioned patients on as little as .25mg daily for 1-2 years puts them at higher risk for dementia. It's in ODD somewhere. Probably by Ped.

The person who posted the above quote was told by his prescriber it can take as long as ten years and maybe another 15 to be completely off them. It's an extreme example but an example nonetheless.


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Re: Training an Addictive Personality? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22384912 - 10/15/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

what are you withdrawing from?


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