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America, the land of the drug tests 2
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Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.
How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?
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I just dodged a drug test for a job at target
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I hate that almost all jobs require it. Some I can understand but not all. I just use synthetic urine and have never had a problem. On probation there supervised so no getting out of that really.
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Yeah it's pretty fucked up. Good old Nancy Reagan shit. There are certainly ways around it though.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: WyoMX]
#22383033 - 10/15/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm with you OP. Luckily I haven't been required to take one yet.
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just stay sober..... i can trip as much as my heart desires and pass any drug test. some people are too fucking retarded to not smoke for a few weeks
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping] 1
#22383114 - 10/15/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Drug tests for employees are an atrocity . If you have to piss in a cup to get A job you are not free. I am grateful that I have never had to and I feel sad and angry on behalf of those who Do.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22383133 - 10/15/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.
Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.
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#22383146 - 10/15/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.
Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.
I'm sorry that the only time I need to be sober is when I'm actually at work. What I do outside the workplace is none of their business.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist] 2
#22383153 - 10/15/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.
Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.
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Most jobs don't do random drug testing, if you can't stop just for initial employment thats pretty bad
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383165 - 10/15/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Most jobs don't do random drug testing, if you can't stop just for initial employment thats pretty bad
Ok yeah I agree with you on that one.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383166 - 10/15/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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marijuana can stay in the system for a long time. Especially for people with high body fat %
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22383173 - 10/15/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Boomer The Great said:
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Herbologist said: Most jobs don't do random drug testing, if you can't stop just for initial employment thats pretty bad
Ok yeah I agree with you on that one.
And I agree that its none of their business what you do with your free time if you are at work sober after initial employment screenings.
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nicechrisman said: marijuana can stay in the system for a long time. Especially for people with high body fat %
4-5 weeks max? You couldn't stop for that long? I know it can be hard but I've always been able to do it
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist] 3
#22383181 - 10/15/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't see why I should have to. What I've done over the past 5 weeks is nobody's business but my own.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22383203 - 10/15/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you could or couldn't do it?
Are you employed?
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383211 - 10/15/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I quit for that long when I was training for my last Aikido promotion, but I wouldn't for a job. I cheated on my last drug test. And yes I am employed.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22383225 - 10/15/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?
What if it was a really good job?
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383230 - 10/15/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If it was a dream job, sure.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22383234 - 10/15/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: If it was a dream job, sure.
My dream job would be growing weed soooooo.....LOL
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How are employers going to deal with the fact that it is now legal in Oregon? Seems to me you can't be fired for doing something completely legal on your own time.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping] 1
#22383256 - 10/15/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Land of the free"
let me laugh...
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: ketsa]
#22383279 - 10/15/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ketsa said: "Land of the free"
let me laugh...
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383298 - 10/15/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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One day I saw a Cops type show on TV but it was from Australia and during a portion of it they showed the cops randomly pulling drivers over and doing drug test on both the driver and the passenger. I had a hard time believing this could happen in Aus.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383299 - 10/15/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.
Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.
It actually seems the shitty jobs are more likely to get drug tested. Everyone I know who has a decent level professional job never got drug tested.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383312 - 10/15/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?
What if it was a really good job?
Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job? Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: yogabunny]
#22383323 - 10/15/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Still_tripping said: How are employers going to deal with the fact that it is now legal in Oregon? Seems to me you can't be fired for doing something completely legal on your own time.
The legality doesn't matter. You can be fired for things that are lawful if they're against company policy or something.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: yogabunny]
#22383336 - 10/15/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yogabunny said:
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Herbologist said: You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?
What if it was a really good job?
Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job? Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic. 
"Why should he have to?" You make it sound like if an employer asks you to do a drug test you can just say no and still expect to get the job. A rebuttal like that will not get you employed.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22383354 - 10/15/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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But fake pee will
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22383361 - 10/15/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well if you can get by with fake pee then so be it. i've always been too nervous to try it.
should i say, i get "pee fright"
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman] 3
#22383527 - 10/15/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The problem is that drug testing regimes have become a cash cow for some large health "care" concerns. Look at the former Governor of FLA; I forget his name but he had strong ties and financial holdings for an outfit that stood to make millions on expanded testing. Conflict of interest be damned though - he sought to greatly expand the state's testing requirements, including tests for welfare recipients.
Some, including many folks here, may be in favor of the welfare testing idea, but there are serious questions as to whether that is even effective or worth the expense (there is real data out there on this issue). It certainly is not about improving the system, it is more just another way to line pockets and punish the poor for being poor.
The best part of all is that to a large degree, drug testing is mainly MJ testing. It sucks that the most innocuous of drugs tested for is the one that lasts so long.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22384756 - 10/15/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said:
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yogabunny said:
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Herbologist said: You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?
What if it was a really good job?
Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job? Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic. 
"Why should he have to?" You make it sound like if an employer asks you to do a drug test you can just say no and still expect to get the job. A rebuttal like that will not get you employed.
It does when enough people refuse the job because of the test. This has happed with the FBI and "hackers". Remember, there's always another employer out there. Ideally this would cause all companies to stop drug testing, but in reality this doesn't happen in most industries because for some reason America believes that businesses have the right to control their employees lives outside the workplace and most people can't afford to refuse a job. It has been getting better in the past few decades as the internet has made it harder and harder for the public to swallow all the made up facts about drug use.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22384783 - 10/15/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said:
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ketsa said: "Land of the free"
let me laugh...

You are such an idiot a bunch of minumin wage jobs that a monkey can do require drug tests
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22384898 - 10/15/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Most jobs don't do random drug testing, if you can't stop just for initial employment thats pretty bad
no dude, the most annoying part of it is if you are LOOKING for a good job, you have to stop entirely UNTIL you get one. so if it takes you months upon months to get hired, it fucking sucks ass.
unemployed for a long ass time + no weed =
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Still_tripping said: Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.
How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?
When you're on the hunt for a job, abstain. Most places, if they drug test, will only drug test you once at the beginning of your employment. When I've had to be unexpectedly drug tested, I've flat out just told my manager(I don't recommend this, because my manager at the time was very chill and we had worked together in the past) that I smoked pot and they gave me an extension, and then just never ended up testing me at all.
I work in a slightly more chill environment(backstage for live entertainment, there's really no time or room for half the bullshit that corporate work environments try to pull) so it hasn't been as much of an issue.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: pirate-blues]
#22385041 - 10/15/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just use someone's piss who is clean 
Travel size lotion bottle.
Hand Warmers (They warm up to 97 degrees, your urine has to test between 90-100)
And wear three pairs of briefs and stuff it under my balls in a thermal drawsack
I've passed multiple tests doing this.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Big Worm]
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...I...probably know someone who has clean pee, but all of the people I feel comfortable asking for pee from definitely aren't clean .
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said: ...I...probably know someone who has clean pee, but all of the people I feel comfortable asking for pee from definitely aren't clean .

Yea my one friend is older and he just stopped smoking because he didn't really like it anymore, but he didn't care when I asked lol. It was clutch though because that's when I got the highest paying job i've ever had.
Driving someone around to piss in a bottle for you is pretty comical though.
Most of my friends are felons so they were clean for extended periods of time too.
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I had one job that made me take a drug test. They only retested if you got injured, so they wouldn't have to pay if you were on drugs. I hurt my back and went to the clinic. I refused to give them a urine sample and never heard about anything about it.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Sun King]
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My one buddy was driving for a delivery company (furniture, cabinets etc.) and he was arguing with his co worker who was in the passenger seat.
Not paying attention, he didn't realize that the truck was taller than the height of the underpass and just slams into it going like 45mph and it ripped the top half of the truck off.
They wanted him to take a drug test for insurance purposes and he had a check waiting for him there for over $400, but he just never went back lol.
He just said fuck it.
Nothing ever happened though.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Big Worm]
#22385301 - 10/15/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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not to menton i play college sports and they drug test ya there too. jeez
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22385357 - 10/15/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.
Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.

Actually it's the shitty jobs for the most part that do drug tests.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: twighead]
#22385365 - 10/15/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the hospitals here are like jail
What you said you hurt here what? here's a drug test!
then they through you in a padded room if you mention the word weed lol
cuz faggots be smoking dat shit
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I don't give people drug tests when I hire them, because I think it's real bullshit. I only conduct background checks because I'm required
Personally I've never had to take a drug test for a job, but I was in the education field so that could be different these days.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: the hospitals here are like jail
What you said you hurt here what? here's a drug test!
then they through you in a padded room if you mention the word weed lol
cuz faggots be smoking dat shit
Are you referring to America?
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: lowbrow]
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Faggots be smoking dat shit
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: ketsa]
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ketsa said: "Land of the free"
let me laugh...
And don't forget we lead the world in number of citizens incarcerated. Freedom, as long as it doesn't cut into profit margins.....
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Still_tripping said: Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.
How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?
Everyone gets tested in the oil patch. That's why there is a crack epidemic in Fort Mac aka Fort Crack. I actually know a guy who deals clean pee
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: my3rdeye]
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I just got done with 3 years of strict random observed drug tests. Been done with them for a couple weeks and still haven't smoked weed. I'm programmed now to think it will result in bad bad things.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Magicman69]
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It will if you smoke weed your uncle will touch your butt
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Moonshoe]
#22386858 - 10/16/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: It will if you smoke weed your uncle will touch your butt
In the 70's everyone had a pervert uncle, you just kept your back to the wall. Or just said fuck it and took the free candy
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#22387081 - 10/16/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck drug tests
They are an invasion of privacy and a violation of our rights as human beings
In some cases they are necessary though like if you're working a dangerous job you should really be sober
But for the most part they're just a way for the establishment to bring the common man down
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: ketsa]
#22387262 - 10/16/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ketsa said: "Land of the free"
let me laugh...
I've only ever come across one job that required a piss test and that was through an agency.
I sent them my CV that ticked all the boxes that they required for the job. Got a phone call from them the next day, and, after expanding on my work experience, for ~20 minutes that had them salivating to get me up to their office to sign on, I asked "just one thing, what's this urine sample thing all about?" and after wasting another five minutes of their time told them, "I'm a fucking Englishman and I won't willingly have some cunt rip the literal piss outta me, shove your fucking job up your fucking arsehole." Miss the days when you could slam the phone down on fuckers.
"Land of the free." Land of the deluded cunt more like.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: my3rdeye]
#22387321 - 10/16/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Still_tripping said: Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.
How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?
Everyone gets tested in the oil patch. That's why there is a crack epidemic in Fort Mac aka Fort Crack. I actually know a guy who deals clean pee
That's the only place in Canada I've really heard of it. Canadian human rights law restricts drug testing quite a bit, but I guess when the ruling party is propped up with oil money then the oil business can get away with more. Typically there is a requirement that sobriety be a bona fide requirement for doing the job for e.g. safety reasons, which I'm sure oil work satisfies, but even then, there normally needs to be evidence that that particular employee is or has been impaired at work.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22387604 - 10/16/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Yeah it's pretty fucked up. Good old Nancy Reagan shit. There are certainly ways around it though.
nancy reagan had nothing to do with this shit, this was insurance companies telling employers that they get huge breaks on insurance rates if they drug test employees. of course they jacked up all the rates before this so they could cut those rates to lower amounts... keep in mind, this is the same sort of thing that obama ushered in with obamacare and his enormous support of the insurance industrial complex
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: my3rdeye]
#22387616 - 10/16/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: It will if you smoke weed your uncle will touch your butt
In the 70's everyone had a pervert uncle, you just kept your back to the wall. Or just said fuck it and took the free candy
tell us about the cavities you had filled
yes, that one too
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: psi]
#22387647 - 10/16/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Still_tripping said: Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.
How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?
Everyone gets tested in the oil patch. That's why there is a crack epidemic in Fort Mac aka Fort Crack. I actually know a guy who deals clean pee
That's the only place in Canada I've really heard of it. Canadian human rights law restricts drug testing quite a bit, but I guess when the ruling party is propped up with oil money then the oil business can get away with more. Typically there is a requirement that sobriety be a bona fide requirement for doing the job for e.g. safety reasons, which I'm sure oil work satisfies, but even then, there normally needs to be evidence that that particular employee is or has been impaired at work.
All of this is very true. Fort Mac became a major hub for crack cocaine and cocaine use because on your days off (a lot of work in the oil patch is 14 on 7 off or 20 on 7 off) you can use crack or cocaine for 4-5 days and be clean for when you go back to work.
I'm currently working to get out the oil patch so I can make a bit better money. It's the first time I've ever had to do a urine test. I worked at a big industrial job (aluminum smelter rebuild) in BC last year, but they did a swab test which was much more reasonable. The mouth swab test really only goes back a couple days and actually can detect cocaine and crack longer in some cases than THC.
I had to quit smoking weed over 60 days ago for the urine testing and I only recently started to pass my home tests (in the last 2 weeks). It's ridiculous and I understand the whole not being impaired at work especially because my job can be dangerous, but this totally violates rights.
I literally can't smoke a joint a week before and go to work a week later, like somehow I'll be impaired still, yet I can drink myself nearly to death one day and come in hung over as fuck and get away with it. I literally had to quit and haven't been able to get a decent job for 60 days.
Only reason I want to go to the oil patch is because it pays really well and I work a ton of overtime. Whoever said that only shitty paying jobs test is completely mistaken, or it's different here in Canada.
I can make upwards and even over 150,000$ year working the oil patch or 50,000-100,000 in my home province where I don't have to do drug test. For me quitting marijuana for a few months or a year is worth the extra money
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22387667 - 10/16/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nancy Reagan was very much a figurehead of popularizing the concept of drug use being a very dangerous element of society that must be stopped at all costs, regardless of personal liberty.
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22387674 - 10/16/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Nancy Reagan was very much a figurehead of popularizing the concept of drug use being a very dangerous element of society that must be stopped at all costs, regardless of personal liberty.
are you saying that once, a long time ago that people bought into sensationalism and media hype? thank god that times like that are long gone
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22387677 - 10/16/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
#22387920 - 10/16/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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you think america is the land of drug test here in aus we get fucking road side mouth swabs which are 100% bullshit and do not work. i have seen a straight edge person come up positive for amphetamines and never touched a drug in his life and yet another person who is a drug fucked crack head come up negative after smoking a whole bunch of meth. go figure ay. also if it works it would be able to pick up marijuana in my system days after smoking some and then get charged with driving under the influence. FUCK I HATE MY COUNTRY'S BULLSHIT FUCKING LAWS
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Kinko]
#22387922 - 10/16/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ketsa said: "Land of the free"
let me laugh...

You are such an idiot a bunch of minumin wage jobs that a monkey can do require drug tests 
How am I the idiot?
Can you even read or do you just smash the keys without knowing what you're talking about?
I already said if you dont want to worry about drug tests then get a shitty ass job ( minimum wage jobs ).
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
#22388196 - 10/16/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: I already said if you dont want to worry about drug tests then get a shitty ass job ( minimum wage jobs ).
But are minimum wage jobs actually any less likely to require them? Seems pretty common on here for people to be worried about a drug test for some run of the mill entry level job. And aren't there also some fairly high paying jobs in the US that don't require them? Are those high-paid, coked-up NYC high finance guys you hear about worrying about having to pass drug tests all the time?
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