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OfflineStill_tripping
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22383249 - 10/15/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How are employers going to deal with the fact that it is now legal in Oregon? Seems to me you can't be fired for doing something completely legal on your own time.


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Offlineketsa
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping] * 1
    #22383256 - 10/15/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"Land of the free"

let me laugh...


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OfflineHerbologist
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: ketsa]
    #22383279 - 10/15/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ketsa said:
"Land of the free"

let me laugh...




:whatever:


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OfflineStill_tripping
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22383298 - 10/15/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

One day I saw a Cops type show on TV but it was from Australia and during a portion of it they showed the cops randomly pulling drivers over and doing drug test on both the driver and the passenger. I had a hard time believing this could happen in Aus.


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Offlineqman
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22383299 - 10/15/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Sorry real jobs require that you stay sober.

Get a shitty job if you wanna get away from drug tests.




It actually seems the shitty jobs are more likely to get drug tested.  Everyone I know who has a decent level professional job never got drug tested.


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InvisibleyogabunnyM
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22383312 - 10/15/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?

What if it was a really good job?





Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job?  Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic. :rolleyes:


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: yogabunny]
    #22383323 - 10/15/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

^Society :rolleyes:


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InvisibleMr.GuessWork
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping]
    #22383333 - 10/15/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Still_tripping said:
How are employers going to deal with the fact that it is now legal in Oregon? Seems to me you can't be fired for doing something completely legal on your own time.




The legality doesn't matter. You can be fired for things that are lawful if they're against company policy or something.


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OfflineHerbologist
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: yogabunny]
    #22383336 - 10/15/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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yogabunny said:
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Herbologist said:
You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?

What if it was a really good job?





Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job?  Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic. :rolleyes:





"Why should he have to?" You make it sound like if an employer asks you to do a drug test you can just say no and still expect to get the job.  A rebuttal like that will not get you employed.


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22383354 - 10/15/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But fake pee will


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OfflineHerbologist
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22383361 - 10/15/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well if you can get by with fake pee then so be it. i've always been too nervous to try it.


should i say, i get "pee fright" :cookiemonster:


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: nicechrisman] * 3
    #22383527 - 10/15/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The problem is that drug testing regimes have become a cash cow for some large health "care" concerns. Look at the former Governor of FLA; I forget his name but he had strong ties and financial holdings for an outfit that stood to make millions on expanded testing. Conflict of interest be damned though - he sought to greatly expand the state's testing requirements, including tests for welfare recipients.

Some, including many folks here, may be in favor of the welfare testing idea, but there are serious questions as to whether that is even effective or worth the expense (there is real data out there on this issue). It certainly is not about improving the system, it is more just another way to line pockets and punish the poor for being poor.

The best part of all is that to a large degree, drug testing is mainly MJ testing. It sucks that the most innocuous of drugs tested for is the one that lasts so long.


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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22384756 - 10/15/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Quote:

yogabunny said:
Quote:

Herbologist said:
You wouldn't stop smoking weed for a few weeks for a job?

What if it was a really good job?





Why should he have to, if smoking weed on his free time in no way, shape or form impairs his ability to do his job?  Yet it's perfectly acceptable to be a raging alcoholic. :rolleyes:





"Why should he have to?" You make it sound like if an employer asks you to do a drug test you can just say no and still expect to get the job.  A rebuttal like that will not get you employed.



It does when enough people refuse the job because of the test. This has happed with the FBI and "hackers". Remember, there's always another employer out there. Ideally this would cause all companies to stop drug testing, but in reality this doesn't happen in most industries because for some reason America believes that businesses have the right to control their employees lives outside the workplace and most people can't afford to refuse a job. It has been getting better in the past few decades as the internet has made it harder and harder for the public to swallow all the made up facts about drug use.


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OfflineKinko
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22384783 - 10/15/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Quote:

ketsa said:
"Land of the free"

let me laugh...




:whatever:



You are such an idiot a bunch of minumin wage jobs that a monkey can do require drug tests :stanhopefacepalm:


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Offlineresonant111
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Herbologist]
    #22384898 - 10/15/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Herbologist said:
Most jobs don't do random drug testing, if you can't stop just for initial employment thats pretty bad




no dude, the most annoying part of it is if you are LOOKING for a good job, you have to stop entirely UNTIL you get one.
so if it takes you months upon months to get hired, it fucking sucks ass.

unemployed for a long ass time + no weed =


:crankeyclaus:


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping]
    #22384989 - 10/15/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Still_tripping said:
Being a Canuk I've never been asked or required to do a drug test. With the exception of the sort of job that it really matters for, being a pilot or something, I'd find that a big incursion into my privacy and would most likely tell my prospectant employer where he could put that test.

How do you yanks look at drug testing and how do you get around it?







When you're on the hunt for a job, abstain. Most places, if they drug test, will only drug test you once at the beginning of your employment.
When I've had to be unexpectedly drug tested, I've flat out just told my manager(I don't recommend this, because my manager at the time was very chill and we had worked together in the past) that I smoked pot and they gave me an extension, and then just never ended up testing me at all.

I work in a slightly more chill environment(backstage for live entertainment, there's really no time or room for half the bullshit that corporate work environments try to pull) so it hasn't been as much of an issue.


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OfflineBig Worm
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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22385041 - 10/15/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I just use someone's piss who is clean    :shrug:


Travel size lotion bottle.

Hand Warmers  (They warm up to 97 degrees, your urine has to test between 90-100)


And wear three pairs of briefs and stuff it under my balls in a thermal drawsack



I've passed multiple tests doing this.


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Big Worm]
    #22385192 - 10/15/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

...I...probably know someone who has clean pee, but all of the people I feel comfortable asking for pee from definitely aren't clean :sad:.


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22385231 - 10/15/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
...I...probably know someone who has clean pee, but all of the people I feel comfortable asking for pee from definitely aren't clean :sad:.






:lol:

Yea my one friend is older and he just stopped smoking because he didn't really like it anymore,  but he didn't care when I asked lol.    It was clutch though because that's when I got the highest paying job i've ever had.

Driving someone around to piss in a bottle for you is pretty comical though.

Most of my friends are felons so they were clean for extended periods of time too.


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Re: America, the land of the drug tests [Re: Still_tripping]
    #22385251 - 10/15/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I had one job that made me take a drug test. They only retested if you got injured, so they wouldn't have to pay if you were on drugs. I hurt my back and went to the clinic. I refused to give them a urine sample and never heard about anything about it.


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