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Asante
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In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? 2
#22381974 - 10/15/15 05:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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In my experience, and contrary to the old testament bible. God does not punish. God tries us, but in an all loving way to help us grow and make us shine brighter and brighter.
Karma happens but it does not punish or reward, its merely a balancing force, the way you tend to roll as often 1 or 6 with dice if you roll them many times. Neither is punishment or reward.
High spirits (angels) like to make you experience positive things, while low spirits (demons) enjoy to make you suffer. Which you surround yourself with is up to you. Are your major allies in your spiritual life Angels or Demons? 
As for you, you can either ascend or stagnate. Ascending is rewarding, as you ascend towards the Oneness, the Good God while stagnating is anguish, it feels like you are descending but iots just the stagnance becoming evermore unbearable.
You ALWAYS rise above your old self in the longer run.
In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds?
In my experience the Universe rewards virtue but does not punish sin, instead you stand in judgement over your own misdeeds and punish them with stagnance.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante]
#22382007 - 10/15/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds?
Yup. But I know of no God yet. They are some type of being(s) that get off on causing emotional and physical turmoil and discontent. Mind control for the sake of punishment for... 'Not being christian enough, pornography, cigarettes, shitty food, etc.'
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante]
#22382113 - 10/15/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Recently, on the radio, someone was saying that Jesus is God. and that to think God would agree with what you think, or think is just, or whatever is arrogant.
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In my experience, and contrary to the old testament bible. God does not punish. God tries us, but in an all loving way to help us grow and make us shine brighter and brighter.
I always questioned why god would punish, make suffer, and well, hell... evil, and God. These questions deliver you over to the problem of evil in philosophy.
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Karma happens but it does not punish or reward, its merely a balancing force, the way you tend to roll as often 1 or 6 with dice if you roll them many times. Neither is punishment or reward.
I've also heard that it is a teacher, to help you no longer need any of it. To go beyond it.
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High spirits (angels) like to make you experience positive things, while low spirits (demons) enjoy to make you suffer. Which you surround yourself with is up to you. Are your major allies in your spiritual life Angels or Demons? 
"Which you surround yourself with is up to you", I question that. People don't have much control over thoughts that just arise in the mind constantly. We just observe the thoughts coming into the mind, they just arise, like the heart that beats unintentionally. If we had control, psychologists and psychiatrists would be out of practice, while all the schizophrenic chose to no longer hear voices in their head. Depressed people would chose not to be depressed.
Low spirits, or Demons enjoy to make me suffer then. High spirits (angels) may like to make me experience positive things, although I think the former have been more active then the later in creating these experiences numerous times in my live so far.
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You ALWAYS rise above your old self in the longer run.
I like this.
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In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds?
I don't know.
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In my experience the Universe rewards virtue but does not punish sin, instead you stand in judgement over your own misdeeds and punish them with stagnance.
Punish and judge your own misdeeds with stagnancy? Explain?
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#22382193 - 10/15/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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God and the universe are two separate things and I believe the rules here are somewhat separated and contrary to the way things go in the greater universe. There is a demiurge and he doesn't necessarily align himself with source. This is considered a very strange place, repulsive even, and is quarantined off by the greater universe of astral and physical civilizations for how backwards and service to self it has become on every level.
In principle, the universe/source has absolutely no reason to punish itself. It exists in a frequency way above the concept of blame or punishment where there are no such thing as misdeeds, only potentials explored. We can be told between lives here in this reality by the "archangels" that even though we are multidimensional spirits with lifespans in the millions-billions of linear time or more, we need to experience more karmic pain for our previous actions "in order to, like, learn more about compassion or whatever. Fuck you." It's all a crock of shit.
That's like telling an adult with amnesia they need to relearn the alphabet by getting it yelled in their ears then punched in the face after. Its all a big lie. Whenever I am in my spirit body I am loving and balanced automatically. Nobody grows from pain and punishment. It is a totally superfluous condition of this quarantined reality and there are parasites at different levels who love this place, feed off of the energy and this reality is becoming a personal paradise for them. This place is a joke. Karma is a joke. The "demons" are winning here, if you like, and the pain and punishment we encounter here is pretty meaningless.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: saenchai]
#22382210 - 10/15/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The "demons" are winning here, if you like, and the pain and punishment we encounter here is pretty meaningless.
They play a cruel game of claiming that they are making you a stronger person by breaking you down but its all a sick game that they enjoy for the sake of their juvenile sense of humor and being in the world.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#22382216 - 10/15/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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For their sick sense of humor, yes, but mostly to literally feed off the energy of suffering and to try and take the legs out from under people who's vibrations are starting to rise to their real power and remembrance. It's a dirty game. It's like an adjustment bureau of astral douchebags.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: saenchai]
#22382419 - 10/15/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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EXACT!
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante]
#22382451 - 10/15/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Are your major allies in your spiritual life Angels or Demons? 
Angels are my allies, conceptually.
In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds?
Punish? No. But balance, yes.
In my experience the Universe rewards virtue but does not punish sin, instead you stand in judgement over your own misdeeds and punish them with stagnance.
I share a similar philosophy. Like me though, as I evolve and add to my pool of life experiences, my belief structures evolve as well.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: mwhtmn]
#22383374 - 10/15/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I choose to be punished for I know I've done wrong.
Seek Justice
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante]
#22383546 - 10/15/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think we punish ourselves.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante] 1
#22384888 - 10/15/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: In my experience, and contrary to the old testament bible. God does not punish. God tries us, but in an all loving way to help us grow and make us shine brighter and brighter.
Karma happens but it does not punish or reward, its merely a balancing force, the way you tend to roll as often 1 or 6 with dice if you roll them many times. Neither is punishment or reward.
High spirits (angels) like to make you experience positive things, while low spirits (demons) enjoy to make you suffer. Which you surround yourself with is up to you. Are your major allies in your spiritual life Angels or Demons? 
As for you, you can either ascend or stagnate. Ascending is rewarding, as you ascend towards the Oneness, the Good God while stagnating is anguish, it feels like you are descending but iots just the stagnance becoming evermore unbearable.
You ALWAYS rise above your old self in the longer run.
In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds?
In my experience the Universe rewards virtue but does not punish sin, instead you stand in judgement over your own misdeeds and punish them with stagnance.
I believe God is within us, not up above or out there doling out punishments. I believe God is Love, which resides in our heart caves, and Love does not punish, but heals and liberates. I believe we get stuck due to traumas and they confine us into narrow points of view that do not include Love and that is a great source of suffering and isolation. I believe such people need help, I wish psychedelic psychotherapy was available for such people.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22385617 - 10/15/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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One or two more lifetimes and we all get to be cyborg psychedelic therapists.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Middleman]
#22385893 - 10/15/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the universe is alive and breathing and this all has a directive. I think if you do stupid, evil shit, you will pay somehow.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Asante] 1
#22385950 - 10/15/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sort of. I agree with your analogy of a balancing force. I think the energy you put out draws experiences to you that will perpetuate that particular frequency.
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Re: In your opinion, does God/Universe punish you for misdeeds? [Re: Ms Eva]
#22388172 - 10/16/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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CJ - and everyone else - that was expressed really beautifully. . I don't think there'd ever be at time, if I needed comfort, that these words would not be a balm to my soul.
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