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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22581336 - 11/27/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 42-
Havana so today I feel pretty good about this project....honestly the PE Tub looks....gross....it's covered in those pools of yellow fluid....not covered but there are lots of drops of metabolite liquid...and now it has those teeny tiny freckled blobs....everywhere....the first time I did a PE tub I only got the blobs on the sides of the tub....it seems the casing layer did exactly what everyone says it doesn't do....I feel like I'm in for a great flush....every so often amongst the blogs and metabolites little penis envy pins are starting to pop up....sometimes these "blobs" are ending up being pin caps....


B+ is really starting to be something to look at....


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22584195 - 11/27/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Late Day 42-
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I wish I was into agar back in April......this penis envy tub is acting so so similarly to the classic examples of Penis envy tubs spread wide across this forum....the pins that are there are mutantesqe....ugly little freckled things.....where the PE I grew in April was much more....Tame?
PE pins from April:


Now....what in the hell happened here?  My current PE tub:

...li cased this time....not in April,..,it's weird...but I'm excited....tell me how it looks...

B+ Going absolutely BONKERS....


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22584502 - 11/27/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: cronicr]
    #22584699 - 11/28/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I thought they were blobs....but they are not....they are pincaps....almost all of them are mushrooms....


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22584860 - 11/28/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most of those are in fact blobs.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #22584875 - 11/28/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Most of those are in fact blobs.




I think you're wrong here....


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22584877 - 11/28/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Time will tell.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22585995 - 11/28/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Is it normal for it to look that yellow?


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Shreality]
    #22586270 - 11/28/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Is it normal for it to look that yellow?




Everything I have found about the pooling metabolites using the search function has led me to believe it just happens sometimes and isn't a problem....maybe an indication that it has a mobster flush coming..
.plus cronicr told me not to worry...so :whathesaid:


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22587071 - 11/28/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A buttload of metabolites are not an indication that a monster flush is about to come through.  It's an indication that the mycelium, for whatever reason, feels the need to produce an antibiotic secretion.  Usually, because of something... biotic.  Go figure.

I always keep a close eye on tubs that go yellow because mold usually follows.  Spawning to manure can have that effect as well, depending on a few factors, not sure what your bulk sub is here.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: cronicr]
    #22587729 - 11/28/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 43-
Mostly a photo update...but I want to help some of the new cultivators reading this log understand why I am not concerned about the load of metabolites in the PE tub...
1. They showed up a week ago and nothing's has turned green or done anything strange since...
2. Upon initial encounter I searched the shroomery forums before bringing it to the experienced cultivators, and I found when I searched "pool metabolites" and other keywords like Penis Envy Monotub all the similar cases I could find were given the recommendation to fruit or just keep going....several providing examples of success with these metabolite pools....then I found this post by RR:
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RogerRabbit said:
It looks like metabolites, but there's no such thing as myc piss.  Metabolites serve two functions.  One is to help break down the substrate with solvents, and the other is an antibiotic function to help fight off competitors.  Mycelium doesn't urinate, and the metabolites are not a waste product, despite what you read elsewhere.  Penicillin is produced from the metabolites of another species of fungi.  You certainly wouldn't ask your doctor for a shot of myc piss if you had the clap.
RR




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cronicr said:
nice i wouldn't sweat it man:cool: just keep doing what you are doing because you're doing great, metabs can be from lots of shit from bacteria to an over colonized sub to temps to absolutely nothing more then it eating




So I felt comfortable with continuing fruiting and I'm glad I did because like I said no contamination has made itself apparent and this pin porn is frankly....crazy (to me....first encounter with anything like this:


And I guess some B+ too:


Feel like I'm going to have a pretty decent yield for my first flushes of each Tub


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22587753 - 11/28/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well feel comfortable fruiting it, sure, but it doesn't happen for no reason.  Sometimes it can happen for no determinable reason, but it doesn't just produce metabolites for no good reason at all.  Given that there must be SOME reason, it's important to keep an eye on it at least.  Mold won't usually hit it til after the first flush.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Inocuole]
    #22591043 - 11/29/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: MrSturgill]
    #22591293 - 11/29/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Is this the running joke now?  We're gonna pretend like I've been missing every time I pop up in a thread?  :lol:

I've posted every day for the last week or so at least.  I can do some more shitposting than normal if that helps define my presence.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Inocuole]
    #22591555 - 11/29/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Penis Envy:


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22591604 - 11/29/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That is some of the blobbiest, spottiest PE I've ever seen.  I get some blobs, a few of them with speckles, but that's just crazy.  Might not yield a ton but it's got a good chance of completely flooring you when you eat them.


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    #22591625 - 11/29/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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That is some of the blobbiest, spottiest PE I've ever seen.  I get some blobs, a few of them with speckles, but that's just crazy.  Might not yield a ton but it's got a good chance of completely flooring you when you eat them.




Yeah it looks very very different compared to the Penis Envy I grew in April (pictured in my signature) I guess it's just the result of using the jiffy mix casing layer as I got the spores from the same exact source and they had the same spore print number on them...super crazy....this is the pin set from my last tub:


I know prints dont have much to do with genetics...but still way different.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22591674 - 11/29/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well if anything a jiffy casing should get them looking more normal, that's the last thing I'd have expected as a result. :shrug:

Genetic variation can be a bit of a mindfuck.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Inocuole]
    #22591697 - 11/29/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Should I take a tissue transfer to agar with this one?


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22591758 - 11/29/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Uhhhh if that's the genetics you're after I suppose. :lol:  I wouldn't, it's a little too gnarly for me.


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