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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: spacechildo]
    #22505224 - 11/10/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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it was munch, 100% colonization in 1 day

strong genetics, proper moisture content of the substrate, higher temps and # of inoc points matters a lot.
also having no bacteria in your spawn speeds up colonization with days!



Damn that's awesome!! Munch didn't post the end results tho :frown:


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22505261 - 11/10/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

haha, it was 5:1 ratios! he'd have to water that like crazy I suspect, at least if he wants to get something out of all those grains.

its basically just grains recovering and not having to travel far to reach the next recovered grain/noc point.

once myc gets a hold of the sub its not much difference in colonization times between 1:2 and 1:4 anyway.

clean spawn, proper moisture in the sub...perfect!


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: spacechildo]
    #22505358 - 11/10/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22509229 - 11/11/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 26-
Picture update of colonization this is after two full days since spawning.
B+ on left PE on right


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22513157 - 11/12/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 27-
We are in day four of tub colonization and I suppose realistically both tubs are fast approaching full colonization. Haha,I know 6 days or so isn't bad at all for tub colonization especially with the spawn ratios I used but the anxiety has begun to set in and I am feeling in my head like this is just taking forever. On my first monotub it took a good 15 days after fruiting conditions were introduced to start getting pins. I really hope it goes a little faster this time, but above all ny love and good vibes go into hoping for just success. Picture update tomorrow for better indication of growth.

Quick question....i want to build a rig to hold a camera inside on of the mobotubs to make a time lapse once pinning starts. Are there any precautions I need to take? I know touch screens are sensational bacteria breeding ground...


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22513299 - 11/12/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Does itusually take that long for pinning to occur in a mono tub? And whatever camera you use just be sure to sterilize very well to avoid contamination. Or you could always make a small hole in the top big enough for the lense to fit through and then seal it up


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Shreality]
    #22513524 - 11/12/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Does itusually take that long for pinning to occur in a mono tub? And whatever camera you use just be sure to sterilize very well to avoid contamination. Or you could always make a small hole in the top big enough for the lense to fit through and then seal it up




I don't know if there is a "usual" time for mono tubs to start pinning...I suppose being spot on has a lot to do with how well the monotub is dialed in and what the fungus wants to do. I assume more experienced cultivators get better and better at reading their fungus and have shorter and shorter times between introduction of fruiting conditions and pinning.

You do not sterilize things like cameras. You sanitize them. As a cultivator it is very important to understand the difference between steril work and a sanitized area.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22514093 - 11/12/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I gotcha. Sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to figure out this mono tub thing because that's what im going to try next.
Oops sorry but you know what i mean. It would be really cool to see a time lapse of the pinning process


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Shreality]
    #22517115 - 11/13/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 28-

Picture update:
Penis Envy on Left. B+ on right



The b+ tub is being stored in a room several degrees colder than penis envy, should I move them to the same spot? Stacking these is okay?


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22517173 - 11/13/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of people stack their tubs, just make sure you have a light source near the tubs on the side.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22524447 - 11/14/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

End of Day 29-

So from my amateur eye I'd say the Penis Envy tub is 24-48 hours from being introduced into fruiting and the B+ tub is maybe 60 hours away....but I'm definitely no pro at this so I need your help.

Please tell me what you think on the status of these tubs

PENIS ENVY


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22528622 - 11/15/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 30-

I'm ready to case my PE monotub as per the recommendation of the trusted cultivators on this forum....I went to get casing supplies and I got it....but then I went to Wal-Mart to buy a Star Wars chess set for a Christmas gift....I strolled through their garden section and there it was:



So I think this is going to be what I use for my casing....Frank loves it so I love it too I suppose....

Anyway I'm about to use Franks Casing Tek.

I am very scared about this pasteurize get process


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22528739 - 11/15/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

all you need is to take things slow and use a thermomether. remember the core temps will keep rising even after you turn the heat off.
if temps are climbing too fast for you throw a pint of cold water in the pot. first time is kinda crazy, at least mine was, taking the pot off the heat, adding cold water, trying to find the settings that did the trick for me. 2nd time is a breeze and after that you barely dont need the thermomether anymore :tongue2:

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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: spacechildo]
    #22529728 - 11/15/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm currently pasteurizing my Jiffy mix casing that Frank  says to use straight out of the bag. The temperature has been around 155F since  shortly after I turned my stove off at 140F and we have 27 minutes to go at the time of this post. I feel more comfortable about this pasteurizing process at the moment...I keep telling myself that if the Bucket Tek works then watching this be at 155-160 for close to 55minutes has got to....but really I am eager to see this Penis Envy tub fruit, and I am feeling pretty good about the decision to case...



I am eager to learn more about between flush procedure as I ditched my first tub after the second flush made barely any progress, and it was not cased.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22529816 - 11/15/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

you got it man! :thumbup:

just spray the tub with water. you can wait a few days if the tub just sits there or mist it right after harvesting if there's new younglings coming up.


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: spacechildo]
    #22529859 - 11/15/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like you've got it right, just make sure those temps don't exceed 165f for too long or you will be partially sterilizing your substrate.

And for your next round of pasteurizing jars, I recommend using a digital meat thermometer. This way you can put the lid on the PC and your jars will heat up more evenly as you watch the temps from outside. It makes the process a whole lot easier! :thumbup:


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22530081 - 11/15/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The B+ will not benefit from a casing layer?


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22530400 - 11/16/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

well documented


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Mycologist217]
    #22530690 - 11/16/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The B+ will not benefit from a casing layer?



All cubes will benefit from a casing layer :awesomenod:


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Re: Grow Log- WBS- Penis Envy and B+ Monotubs -Lab Manual Style [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22531816 - 11/16/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Day 31-
FRUITING!!!

So both tubs were introduced to fruiting conditions this morning! The Penis envy tub was cased with the jiffy seed starter mix containing Pete, vermiculite, and lime that I pasteurized last night and cooled in my SAB over night before applying this morning. Both tubs are displaying condensations patterns consistent with Frank's  example of proper FAE...now it's just a waiting game.

The casing of the penis envy made me nervous because so many threads have been read saying that this Pete moss and lime isn't exactly easy to keep contam free and if I had gone with no casing I was pretty much guaranteed a healthy first flush....but I want to improve my skill, so I took a step up. I did not case the B+.



Let me know how the casing looks please.


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