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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22522293 - 11/14/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I just placed an order with outgrow for the things I think I need to start doing agar. I'm nervous, but excited. I got some PDA, gypsum (for doing spawn), a scalpel, and Tyvek sleeves. I need to make a SAB, but didn't really like the clear totes I saw at Wallyworld. Not tall enough for my liking. Will check Menards soon. I also got some 1/2 pint wide mouth jars to use as petris. Need to do some studying now. I was going to get some rye berries also, but I can get them at my supermarket cheaper after you add in shipping.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22522505 - 11/14/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Go to your local home improvement store for gypsum next time. It's only like $6 for a 40 lb bag. With grains look for a local feed store and pick them up by the sack. A 50 lb sack runs anywhere from $10-25. The most expensive is millet @ $20-25 then the cheap ones are rye, barley, oat, wheat and milo around $10-15. Pietris you will be much happier using actual peitri dishes, you can pick up 80 for like $25 on ebay. I get my agar powder from amazon then make my own PDA, much cheaper than prepared agar and its easy to make using some old potatoes. Hope this helped!


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22522632 - 11/14/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:  Exactly.  You can get Telephone brand agar at a Korean grocery store for cheap.  Buy multiple packets and you'll not have to go back for quite a while.  Agway sells grain, and all the rest you need can be acquired online or easily made from scratch, like an inoculation loop.

The most exciting part of agar is cloning wild specimens of edible mushrooms that you forage.  I've got grains growing out Chicken of the Woods, Oyster mushrooms, Hen of the Woods and King Stropharia, all from fruits I found while hiking in the woods this summer and fall.  :thumbup:

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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22522958 - 11/14/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The most exciting part of agar is cloning wild specimens of edible mushrooms that you forage. 

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Exactly what I was thinking! I have a spore print from this mushroom:




Unfortunately, that won't produce a clone. Fortunately, I also have just a little of it growing on a piece of paper towel, and THAT will be a clone. Not sure if it will clean up very well though. I'm sure gonna give it a go!


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22523734 - 11/14/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I remember that image quite well - it left a lasting impression, I assure you!!  Here's the wild oyster I cloned just a few days ago.  The one on the left:



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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22523792 - 11/14/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I remember that image quite well - it left a lasting impression, I assure you!!  Here's the wild oyster I cloned just a few days ago.  The one on the left:



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Very nice!


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22527223 - 11/15/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright, here you go. The first two pics are the wheat bran supplemented bag, and the last pic is a bag that I put some unbrewed coffee in with the pellets.







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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: shroombasa]
    #22527263 - 11/15/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

any updates jim?


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22527748 - 11/15/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure why, but they sure seem to be growing slow. Temperatures are about 63 or so. Maybe raise temp to 68 or just let them grow slow and meaty.  Will get a few more pics up after super.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528130 - 11/15/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Here ya go. I also have my very first sawdust bag in the PC right now, cooking away. No supplements in this one because I am going to use 1.5 lbs of shiitake spawn to 3 lbs substrate. I heard that too much supplement will cause problems with shiitake, and since spawn is a supplement, I didn't want to get too crazy.

Ah shit! Just heard a "pop" inside the PC. I'm wondering if my bag didn't blow out. We'll find out in a few after it cools off enough.

Anyhow here's some king pics while we wait.









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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528143 - 11/15/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Whoa! I just noticed I also have my first hot topic thread. Nice!


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528150 - 11/15/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pop??  Maybe just the lid settling in?  You didn't seal the bag, right?  So why would it pop?

Here's a pix of the mycelial growth of that wild oyster mushroom after only a couple of days.  Blows my mind how fast and aggressive vigorous wild mycelium can be!



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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22528165 - 11/15/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I folded the top and put a 2.5 lb weight on it to keep it from expanding and blocking the valve. Maybe too much weight and the air couldn't escape fast enough. Just lost pressure. Will check and let the world know in a few. Might have a little clean up to do :rolleyes:


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528197 - 11/15/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Eeks.  Try pushing out all the air manually, then fold the bag once or twice and use a wooden clothesline spring clip to keep the steam/water from entering the bag and ruining your moisture level.  That method works well for me.  The likelihood of the bag blocking the valve is just about zero.  The rationale for clipping the bag is to preserve the field capacity of your substrate.  Hope it's nothing and everything is ship-shape in your PC!

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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22528217 - 11/15/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

OK. So the bag began to inflate and managed to slip the weight off to the side and the "pop" was actually a "thunk" when the weight fell of the side of the bag onto the bottom of the PC. No cleanup yet. So I took the weight out and refolded it. Then I just put a dinner plate on top. I'm thinking maybe the weight was right on the filter patch and not enough air could escape, causing too much expansion? It's back in the PC for another try.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528311 - 11/15/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

DAMN IT!!! Now the air vent/cover lock started leaking before I got up to 15 psi! Cooling now, again, to see what the hell is wrong now. Will fold Tyvek into opening this time to ensure pressure relief in the bag just to be sure.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22528707 - 11/15/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Man, you re working hard!  Good luck. No clothes pins at home?

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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22528771 - 11/15/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I got it sterilized, but the bag seems to keep wanting to unfold. I had a plate on it, and it kind of pushed it to the side and inflated half way. I will try the cloths pins next time, but won't it just push them off if it inflates?


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Re: King Oyster and Pasturized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22529195 - 11/15/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You should put a plate or some sort of disc over the bags to keep them from plugging your vent, gauge, and overpressure relief button.


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Re: King Oyster and Pasteurized Fuel Pellets with Wheat Bran [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22529264 - 11/15/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Um, please check the post right before yours. Had a plate on it but it was pushing it up and to the side. Will try accordion style with tyvek next time and a plate with a weight.


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