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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22398052 - 10/18/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Simply put: because it would be difficult to stop eating meat and because it is delicious. Imagine life without In n Out or without carnitas...

Imagine thanksgiving without turkey...

Imagine life without fish tacos.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22398156 - 10/18/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Your point?  They are what we call deserts.  No water was harmed to make them.




Are you really that stupid?

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Fossil water is, by definition, a non-renewable resource.[1] Whereas most aquifers are naturally replenished by infiltration of water from precipitation, fossil aquifers are those that get little or no recharge.[2] The extraction of water from such non-replenishing groundwater reserves (known as low safe-yield reserves) is known in hydrology as water mining.[3] If water is pumped from a well at a withdrawal rate that exceeds the natural recharge rate (which, in a fossil aquifer, is very low or zero), the water table drops, forming a depression in the water levels around the well.[2]

Aquifer drawdown or overdrafting and the pumping of fossil water increases the total amount of water in the hydrosphere, and may be responsible for up to one quarter of the Earth's total sea level rise since the beginning of the 20th century.[4]








where does that 'fossil water' go once it's pumped out of the aquifer? is ig gone
forever from the planet? was it ejected into the sun? maybe carried away by
aliens in their huge water consuming space craft?




Did you even read the post you quoted?

The majority ends up in the ocean. Have fun drinking that, or using that for irrigation.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22398167 - 10/18/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The ocean is so freaking large, It's where most water on the world end up.

You know what desalinization is right? You can drink ocean water.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Achillita]
    #22398171 - 10/18/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The ocean is so freaking large, It's where most water on the world end up.





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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Achillita]
    #22398178 - 10/18/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Desalination is not a viable option yet in terms of energy consumption and cost efficiency. Think transport. Should we all go live near the sea you think? Should all our agriculture be on the shore?


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22398210 - 10/18/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Different sources of water depending on where you're at... The country of Curacao has no fresh water sources. They get all of their water from desalination.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Achillita]
    #22398214 - 10/18/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The point is that we are depleting fossil water reserves. People who are not near the ocean rely on those. Should they migrate to coastal areas or what?

Curacao is a stupid example. They can deal with having no fresh water sources because they are near the ocean.

Try doing that in the blue countries that are overpumping their aquifiers:



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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Achillita]
    #22398216 - 10/18/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just got done with the gym and about to eat a 20inch long sub with turkey chicken roast beef AND BACON. Be jelly vegans. Murder is delicious.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22398220 - 10/18/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Surface water is one option. Water is so abundant on our planet. It's literally everywhere.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Achillita]
    #22398234 - 10/18/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's not. It really isn't. A record number of countries are going through huge droughts.

In Australia the rivers are even flowing in reverse. Pumping salt water into the continent.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22398241 - 10/18/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Just got done with the gym and about to eat a 20inch long sub with turkey chicken roast beef AND BACON. Be jelly vegans. Murder is delicious.



20 inches? Jesus thats like eating 2/3rds of a pecan pie


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22398247 - 10/18/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not. It really isn't. A record number of countries are going through huge droughts.

In Australia the rivers are even flowing in reverse. Pumping salt water into the continent.



Desalinization then :cookiemonster:

While some places are having droughts, others are experiencing floods. The whole world isn't in some constant drought.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Luueschen]
    #22398254 - 10/18/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can put away some food man. lol benefit of having extra muscle is a super sped up metabolism.I keep saying the problems lie in activity level but OP doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that its a lazy fuck problem not a meat is wrong for human consumption problem.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22398279 - 10/18/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Desalination... Try transporting sea water into the desert or desalinated water into the desert.

The simple fact that we are draining aquifiers quicker than they can be replenished should be troubling enough. Whenever we use up resources faster than they can be renewed, we are in trouble.

Appearently we need to run out of oil or fish first before we can see that the same thing is happening to our fresh water supplies.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22398321 - 10/18/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Desalination is not a viable option yet in terms of energy consumption and cost efficiency. Think transport. Should we all go live near the sea you think? Should all our agriculture be on the shore?



Rainfall is deslination


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22398335 - 10/18/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Because we are omnivores, I was vegan for two years, it doesn't work. It might work for some people but not me I lost a shit load of weight and was sick a lot. We need to eat meat, obviously not at the excess amount that we do but we need some type of meat in our diet. Life feeds on life.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: twighead]
    #22398345 - 10/18/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Come on m8 you know why it's important - having a locally well accessible water source has many distinct advantages over being dependent on non-local sources of water.





which is why I dont understand why people would live in the desert


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22398346 - 10/18/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It is. And we should definitely catch more of it. But in those water stressed places it just doesn't rain that much. It never rains where it is most needed.

It rains a lot above oceans for instance. Not very useful.

Whatever we don't catch slowly seeps back into the aquifiers. But I've already repeated many times that we deplete those faster than they are replenished through rainfall seeping through the ground.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22398351 - 10/18/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Water consumption is an utterly irrelevant concern for overall agricultural considerations.  Water is not destroyed when it is used.  It just goes back to the ocean and then evaporates and the cycle repeats and repeats and repeats.  Water shortages are strictly local issues.





Oh? A bunch of pesticide-laden water sinking through the ground into the water table is irrelevant? Or the rivers that farmers draw their water supply from drying up rather rapidly? Seems like it should be a rather big concern to me. The water certainly isn't destroyed...but that hardly means that water returning to nature is an positive thing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/24/study-colorado-river-basin-drying-up-faster-than-previously-thought/

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Come on m8 you know why it's important - having a locally well accessible water source has many distinct advantages over being dependent on non-local sources of water.





which is why I dont understand why people would live in the desert




Places like Arizona are the greatest testiment to humanity's arrogance in the face of nature.


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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22398356 - 10/18/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Come on m8 you know why it's important - having a locally well accessible water source has many distinct advantages over being dependent on non-local sources of water.





which is why I dont understand why people would live in the desert




I don't get that either. The desert dwellers are starting to see so for themselves as well. Having them invade your country will soon be a reality as it already is here. 3 million Syrians have already left the desert. Many more will follow. And of course its not only Syria.

Another fun fact is that almost every desert is rapidly growing. Making it harder and harder for more and more people to live in ever larger areas...


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