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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha]
#22436524 - 10/26/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kukaracha said: An interesting addition to the debate: some meats linked to cancer.
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Eating processed meat, like hot dogs and corned beef, can raise the risk in humans of getting colon cancer, a report by the World Health Organization said on Monday.
There was also some evidence that eating red meat, including beef, pork and lamb, can cause cancer in the colon, prostate or pancreas, the W.H.O.’s International Agency for Research on Cancer said in the report.
The report was released after a team of 22 public health, cancer and other experts from 10 countries, reviewed 800 studies on the disease in humans, and sifted through epidemiological data on the consumption of processed and red meats.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/health/report-links-some-types-of-cancer-with-processed-or-red-meat.html
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf
red meat is "too powerful", as in, too good for you.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22436741 - 10/26/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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came here to post that. i saw something on reddit earlier, and now it's on the news on NBC.
my grandfather just had a stage 2 cancer scare, colon cancer. guess what his favorite food was? steaks, hot dogs, etc.
i made a choice not too long ago to quit eating anything but fish and veggies. looks like i made the right decision.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404] 1
#22436765 - 10/26/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If a company wishes to be profitable it needs to evolve and increase revenue. Its the natural order of a semi-free economy. I think its less a question of whether we should be eating meat and more about the process. I think if we put too many restrictions on farms it will cripple the market and cause a reasonable amount of job loss. That being said I think animals lack the level of consciousness and morals required for their life to be considered more valuable than the sustenance they supply. I do think some minor reform could benefit though, as some of the processes are just cruel.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436775 - 10/26/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think if you were to moderate you consumption of meat you would be fine. Eating similar foods over extended periods of time has a much higher chance of causing health complications. Unless you are abstaining from eating meat on the basis of moral concern. In which case you would be justified. EDIT: Dammit, didn't mean to double post :/
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i don't agree with that last bit much at all. cows and pigs are pretty sentient and just because they aren't humans doesn't mean they don't suffer in very similar ways. i'm glad i made the decision to cut out red and processed meats.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436819 - 10/26/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The shit tastes good and I'd rather die a little sooner than give that glory up.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22436843 - 10/26/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i can't argue with that - it does taste good. i miss burgers but i think i will be ok supplementing with sushi 
also. cancer sucks, zappa.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436862 - 10/26/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: i don't agree with that last bit much at all. cows and pigs are pretty sentient and just because they aren't humans doesn't mean they don't suffer in very similar ways. i'm glad i made the decision to cut out red and processed meats.
Pigs, totally. But cows?
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436867 - 10/26/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had three. I will know what to do with the next ones just as I did with the first ones. If they can be fixed within a reasonable amount of pain they will be. If they can't I will eat my shotgun.
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you don't think cows are sentient?
Cows like Lorde
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22436877 - 10/26/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I've had three.
what do you mean three, three cancer scares?
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436929 - 10/26/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: you don't think cows are sentient?
Cows like Lorde 
In my experience, cows are rejects.
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i don't know what you mean by that at all. that is very vague
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22436953 - 10/26/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I've had three.
what do you mean three, three cancer scares?
No.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22436969 - 10/26/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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Kukaracha said: An interesting addition to the debate: some meats linked to cancer.
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Eating processed meat, like hot dogs and corned beef, can raise the risk in humans of getting colon cancer, a report by the World Health Organization said on Monday.
There was also some evidence that eating red meat, including beef, pork and lamb, can cause cancer in the colon, prostate or pancreas, the W.H.O.’s International Agency for Research on Cancer said in the report.
The report was released after a team of 22 public health, cancer and other experts from 10 countries, reviewed 800 studies on the disease in humans, and sifted through epidemiological data on the consumption of processed and red meats.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/health/report-links-some-types-of-cancer-with-processed-or-red-meat.html
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf
red meat is "too powerful", as in, too good for you.

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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Webster10]
#22437008 - 10/26/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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bacon everyday is not bacon, sausage and steak everyday.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22437014 - 10/26/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey i heard that Zappa had the cure for cancer in his head...let's kill him!
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: zappaisgod]
#22437032 - 10/26/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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zappaisgod said: I've had three.
what do you mean three, three cancer scares?
No.
uh ok. so what do you mean then??
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22437036 - 10/26/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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PS. prisoner says the WHO is paid for and none of it's true.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: 404]
#22437077 - 10/26/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: i don't know what you mean by that at all. that is very vague
Cows, man. They're, like, a step above worms.
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