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Kukaracha
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Why do we still eat meat? 10
#22379457 - 10/14/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because it tastes good right? I'm a simple man, I like simple things, blahblahblah.
Here in France a video showing the insides of a slaughterhouse was just released. The level of violence and cruelty displayed are mind-blowing. You could be watching a wildlife documentary and think "wow not cool" when the pack of hyenas bleeds little by little a sick and tired buffalo. Then you watch this and feel like you've woken up from a really nice dream and that reality is really just a nightmare.
Isn't it interesting how differently we treat humans - animals themselves - and other animals? How we are really careful about not hurting anyone's feelings but yet we can lift an old horse up in the air and smash its head with a hammer until the skull shatters as if it was just an inanimate thing? Or, in a less shocking way, how we have "pet stores" where we basically keep babies in tiny unhygienic cages until a passerby has enough pity to give that little fellow a somewhat decent life?
We know pigs are very intelligent creatures, we know animals aren't that different from us, we've studied them and communicated in fascinating ways with gorillas, elephants and dogs who have shown us that they too feel emotions. Yet it still doesn't connect, it still doesn't translate into action. You can still grab a one month old kitten and smash it against a wall and it's nothing, nothing happened. Do that with a human and you're all over the news. Sure, we're different, but are we that different? Are humans everything and the rest nothing?
There is a scene where pigs are asphyxiated in a cage too small to fit them all. It's industrialized murder. If you industrially slaughter human beings through asphyxiation, it ends up in history books. If you do the same with pigs, nothing happens. Even if you can see them squeal and scream and screech to death as they convulse in that metal cage.
Even then, cheap BBQs are more important.
Video is NSFW I guess.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha] 3
#22379511 - 10/14/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is why I try to only eat meat that has been humanely raised.
Grass fed, free range, no antibiotics, no hormones. purely natural.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha]
#22379538 - 10/14/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cause theres money in it.
Amd most humans are fucked up ime/o
I always feel guilt when i eat murder, but dont eat it too much. Its. guilty vice of mine.. i was raised on it and it hard to outright quit it. this summer i almost went 2 months without eating a slice of murdered flesh But how we mass produce animals in chicken warehouses just to kill and sell them is fucking sickening
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha]
#22379575 - 10/14/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kukaracha said: Because it tastes good right? I'm a simple man, I like simple things, blahblahblah.
Here in France a video showing the insides of a slaughterhouse was just released. The level of violence and cruelty displayed are mind-blowing. You could be watching a wildlife documentary and think "wow not cool" when the pack of hyenas bleeds little by little a sick and tired buffalo. Then you watch this and feel like you've woken up from a really nice dream and that reality is really just a nightmare.
Isn't it interesting how differently we treat humans - animals themselves - and other animals? How we are really careful about not hurting anyone's feelings but yet we can lift an old horse up in the air and smash its head with a hammer until the skull shatters as if it was just an inanimate thing? Or, in a less shocking way, how we have "pet stores" where we basically keep babies in tiny unhygienic cages until a passerby has enough pity to give that little fellow a somewhat decent life?
We know pigs are very intelligent creatures, we know animals aren't that different from us, we've studied them and communicated in fascinating ways with gorillas, elephants and dogs who have shown us that they too feel emotions. Yet it still doesn't connect, it still doesn't translate into action. You can still grab a one month old kitten and smash it against a wall and it's nothing, nothing happened. Do that with a human and you're all over the news. Sure, we're different, but are we that different? Are humans everything and the rest nothing?
There is a scene where pigs are asphyxiated in a cage too small to fit them all. It's industrialized murder. If you industrially slaughter human beings through asphyxiation, it ends up in history books. If you do the same with pigs, nothing happens. Even if you can see them squeal and scream and screech to death as they convulse in that metal cage.
Even then, cheap BBQs are more important.
Video is NSFW I guess.
Your killing something to eat it, is it supposed to be pleasant or am I missing something?
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To the extent of factory farming, their meat is deplorable and disgusting. I stick with purchasing directly from a farmer, it makes all the difference.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha]
#22379590 - 10/14/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because it's fucking delicious. No amount of this "animal abuse" horse shit is ever going to make me stop eating meat.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip] 2
#22379606 - 10/14/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22379621 - 10/14/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Kukaracha said: Because it tastes good right? I'm a simple man, I like simple things, blahblahblah.
Here in France a video showing the insides of a slaughterhouse was just released. The level of violence and cruelty displayed are mind-blowing. You could be watching a wildlife documentary and think "wow not cool" when the pack of hyenas bleeds little by little a sick and tired buffalo. Then you watch this and feel like you've woken up from a really nice dream and that reality is really just a nightmare.
Isn't it interesting how differently we treat humans - animals themselves - and other animals? How we are really careful about not hurting anyone's feelings but yet we can lift an old horse up in the air and smash its head with a hammer until the skull shatters as if it was just an inanimate thing? Or, in a less shocking way, how we have "pet stores" where we basically keep babies in tiny unhygienic cages until a passerby has enough pity to give that little fellow a somewhat decent life?
We know pigs are very intelligent creatures, we know animals aren't that different from us, we've studied them and communicated in fascinating ways with gorillas, elephants and dogs who have shown us that they too feel emotions. Yet it still doesn't connect, it still doesn't translate into action. You can still grab a one month old kitten and smash it against a wall and it's nothing, nothing happened. Do that with a human and you're all over the news. Sure, we're different, but are we that different? Are humans everything and the rest nothing?
There is a scene where pigs are asphyxiated in a cage too small to fit them all. It's industrialized murder. If you industrially slaughter human beings through asphyxiation, it ends up in history books. If you do the same with pigs, nothing happens. Even if you can see them squeal and scream and screech to death as they convulse in that metal cage.
Even then, cheap BBQs are more important.
Video is NSFW I guess.
Your killing something to eat it, is it supposed to be pleasant or am I missing something?
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Shroomslip said: Because it's fucking delicious. No amount of this "animal abuse" horse shit is ever going to make me stop eating meat.
It most definitely is animal abuse. There is a humane way to raise animals for consumption and there is a fucked up purely for profit way.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Herbologist] 1
#22379643 - 10/14/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make the humane way of raising them match the costs of the "wrong way" and I'll support it, until then, don't care. World was fucked up long before we came along. Animals are given much quicker deaths by us than they would be given in the wild. They're also fed regularly and aren't spending most of their life trying to avoid being killed.
That or campaign to remove hunting restrictions and shit and let me go hunt my own food whenever I want. I have no problem doing it myself, I'm just not going to spend several thousand dollars on one deer.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip] 8
#22379753 - 10/14/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What a jackass, would you consider your life better if you got free food and never had to worry about paying rent, or anything - except you couldn't leave a 3 foot wide cage your whole life?
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: twighead]
#22379775 - 10/14/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not saying their life is good. I'm just pointing stuff out. Make of it what you want.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22379779 - 10/14/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those videos are disturbing. But we were born into it. Raised with it. We control this planet mainly. Best not to think of it and live life as normal. Simple enough but if over thought it seems crappy. It's food.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip] 4
#22379830 - 10/14/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I'm not saying their life is good. I'm just pointing stuff out. Make of it what you want.
I think paying a few more dollars a pound for meat that isn't cruelly raised is just fine. The price difference is not so large really.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#22379843 - 10/14/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Make the humane way of raising them match the costs of the "wrong way" and I'll support it, until then, don't care. World was fucked up long before we came along. Animals are given much quicker deaths by us than they would be given in the wild. They're also fed regularly and aren't spending most of their life trying to avoid being killed.
That or campaign to remove hunting restrictions and shit and let me go hunt my own food whenever I want. I have no problem doing it myself, I'm just not going to spend several thousand dollars on one deer.
You just won the award
How do you want to celebrate? Meat, I suppose?
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: twighead]
#22379846 - 10/14/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Around here anytime a new label is slapped on the meat, it pretty much doubles in price. "Organic" "Free Range" etc. My town doesn't have a real meat market or butcher. It's all from the grocery store. I remember having a couple when I was a kid, but we just don't anymore.
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Shroomslip said: Make the humane way of raising them match the costs of the "wrong way" and I'll support it, until then, don't care. World was fucked up long before we came along. Animals are given much quicker deaths by us than they would be given in the wild. They're also fed regularly and aren't spending most of their life trying to avoid being killed.
That or campaign to remove hunting restrictions and shit and let me go hunt my own food whenever I want. I have no problem doing it myself, I'm just not going to spend several thousand dollars on one deer.
You just won the award
How do you want to celebrate? Meat, I suppose?
I cannot begin to express how little weight you of all people, calling me a tard, really holds.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Rolan] 6
#22379899 - 10/14/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rolan said: Those videos are disturbing. But we were born into it. Raised with it. We control this planet mainly. Best not to think of it and live life as normal. Simple enough but if over thought it seems crappy. It's food.
Wow. Great comment.
Reminds me of that experiment with monkeys populating a cage that had a ladder in the middle. The ladder would lead up to a food source. However, whenever a monkey climbed the ladder, the whole population of the cage would be sprayed with a fire hose. After a short while, the monkeys learned not to climb the ladder.
Then, a monkey was replaced by a new monkey. The new monkey tried to climb the ladder but all the other monkeys attacked him before he could do so.
They kept replacing monkeys until no monkeys from the original population were left. There were only new monkeys that had never witnessed the fire hose being sprayed. It was never sprayed because all the new monkeys still beat the shit out of any newer monkey trying to climb the ladder.
If you'd ask those monkeys why, they'd probably reply: "That's just the way we do things around here. Best not to think of it and live life as normal."
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Kukaracha] 1
#22379946 - 10/14/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's so sick, why must you remind me of these things.
Now I have to go into my cycle where I stop eating meat for a few days until I conveniently forget about what I just saw.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22380021 - 10/14/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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A large portion of the population eats an exceptionally HIGH amount of meat. If you cut down your consumption and replaced it with starches/vegetables you'd be able to afford the properly raised product.
Plus, go look at those mutated monstrosities people call farm animals in big feed lots. They are fucking abominations.
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Re: Why do we still eat meat? [Re: Shroomslip] 2
#22380028 - 10/14/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Around here anytime a new label is slapped on the meat, it pretty much doubles in price. "Organic" "Free Range" etc. My town doesn't have a real meat market or butcher. It's all from the grocery store. I remember having a couple when I was a kid, but we just don't anymore.
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Shroomslip said: Make the humane way of raising them match the costs of the "wrong way" and I'll support it, until then, don't care. World was fucked up long before we came along. Animals are given much quicker deaths by us than they would be given in the wild. They're also fed regularly and aren't spending most of their life trying to avoid being killed.
That or campaign to remove hunting restrictions and shit and let me go hunt my own food whenever I want. I have no problem doing it myself, I'm just not going to spend several thousand dollars on one deer.
You just won the award
How do you want to celebrate? Meat, I suppose?
I cannot begin to express how little weight you of all people, calling me a tard, really holds.
A fact is a fact. You are a
sorry 
lifes a bitch
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