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"World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people"
    #22378540 - 10/14/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What are we going to do with all the bums?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-13/if-you-re-young-the-job-outlook-is-grim-no-matter-where-you-live
If You're Young, The Job Outlook Is Grim No Matter Where You Live

The World Bank has an unsettling message for young people around the globe: Whether you're male or female, live in Tunisia or the U.S., you will struggle to find a job.

Across regions and continents, people 15 to 29 years old are at least twice as likely as adults to be unemployed. The world will have to create 600 million jobs over the next 10 years, or 5 million a month, just to prevent the situation from getting worse, the Washington-based lender said in a report it released Tuesday with coalition partners such as the International Labor Organization.

The youngest workers have been hit hardest by the financial crisis and the global recession of the last decade because they often held the temporary jobs, which offer less protection. The youth unemployment rate is projected to be 13.1 percent in 2015, compared with 4.5 percent for adults, according to the ILO.

Global employers are looking not only for technical and academic skills, but also such qualities as being open, responsible or organized, according to the 155-page analysis titled "Toward Solutions for Youth Employment." Young workers are often either overqualified or underqualified for their jobs, it said.

"In emerging economies that are progressively more service-based, employers find a workforce population that lacks necessary skills," the report said. "Elsewhere, the problem is that many of the unemployed are highly educated but the market demands different competencies or more technical or vocational skills."

At stake is the well-being of the entire global economy. Without an income, millions of young people slump into poverty. By delaying their entry into the workforce or accepting low-paying jobs, many limit their lifetime earning potential. When young people don't work, governments don't get the tax revenue and businesses fail to gain customers.

"Social costs are ever mounting as well," the report said, citing youth-led uprisings in many Arab countries and the rise of economic insurgency and youth extremism. "What we see is a generation in economic crisis."

The report was released by a coalition called Solutions for Youth Employment, also includes the International Youth Foundation, children-development organization Plan International, public-policy researcher RAND Corp. and Youth Business International, a network helping young people start their own companies.




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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Hobozen] * 2
    #22378568 - 10/14/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22378583 - 10/14/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh no jerbs wahhhh :rolleyes:

We going to get this post-material scarcity society biz rolling, then there wont be a need for everybody to do consistent grunt work to survive.


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    #22378624 - 10/14/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Ezuma]
    #22378892 - 10/14/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we should just cut back on the population


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Sheekle]
    #22378910 - 10/14/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When I was 15- 16 years old, my teachers, parents and everybody else said to me " Kid, you're gonna be able to cherry pick whichever job you like because the boomers will retire and it will create insane demand. Companies will beg you to come work for them"....

So that didn't pan out...


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Sheekle]
    #22379013 - 10/14/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

except we need fewer people to support the population. Lower the population, and we'll still need fewer people working to keep that in order. We will eventually need a different economic system or a different way of breaking up the work


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Sheekle]
    #22379552 - 10/14/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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we should just cut back on the population



For sure,

way to over populated

but people and especially sector 8 kind of people multiply like rabbits



Were killing the  planet, the economy and the overall greater good of this planet.
Its sad


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: SunnyD]
    #22379572 - 10/14/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we need to colonize other planets already :kingcrankey:

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    #22379665 - 10/14/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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we should just cut back on the population




Sounds like you're suggesting mass genocide to solve the problem. 

Reported.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: qman]
    #22379721 - 10/14/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you're young come to Silicon Valley in California. Pretty much every single business is short staffed and has help wanted signs in front. Constant job fairs.

It's not just high end technology jobs either, it's every thing you can imagine.

The job outlook looks fine where I'm at. So the title of OPs article is false.

Sucks if you live in Nebraska though.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22379837 - 10/14/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I dont see how that makes 600 million jobs available to the world?


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    #22379847 - 10/14/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If you're young come to Silicon Valley in California. Pretty much every single business is short staffed and has help wanted signs in front. Constant job fairs.

It's not just high end technology jobs either, it's every thing you can imagine.

The job outlook looks fine where I'm at. So the title of OPs article is false.

Sucks if you live in Nebraska though.




Yeah, because Silicon Valley is the whole US.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Hobozen] * 2
    #22379852 - 10/14/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

there aren't enough 40 hr/week jobs because...i don't know...they aren't necessary?
the notion that the entire populous needs to work 40/hrs a week to keep the world turning is so obsolete and fucked. especially now that machines do half the work for us. :shrug:

if people could make a living off 20 hr weeks there would be no such thing as a "job crisis" ever again.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: resonant111]
    #22379872 - 10/14/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, I don't think anyone said it had to be this way.


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    #22379903 - 10/14/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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there aren't enough 40 hr/week jobs because...i don't know...they aren't necessary?
the notion that the entire populous needs to work 40/hrs a week to keep the world turning is so obsolete and fucked. especially now that machines do half the work for us. :shrug:

if people could make a living off 20 hr weeks there would be no such thing as a "job crisis" ever again.




There are plenty of 40 hour a week jobs left. Get a skill set that human beings can only do, not machines. Machines are not our competition on the workplace. Our competition is everyone else, so just be better and do better than the next person. Only way to make it anywhere.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: qman]
    #22379916 - 10/14/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't say the whole US. The whole article did. I was pointing out that 'the job outlook is grim no matter where you live' was wrong.

You guys must have misinterpreted my post. I was trying to let any young folks on this site that may be having trouble finding work in their neck of the woods, that they could easily find a good job in pretty much every field out here.


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    #22379995 - 10/14/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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resonant111 said:
there aren't enough 40 hr/week jobs because...i don't know...they aren't necessary?
the notion that the entire populous needs to work 40/hrs a week to keep the world turning is so obsolete and fucked. especially now that machines do half the work for us. :shrug:

if people could make a living off 20 hr weeks there would be no such thing as a "job crisis" ever again.




There are plenty of 40 hour a week jobs left. Get a skill set that human beings can only do, not machines. Machines are not our competition on the workplace. Our competition is everyone else, so just be better and do better than the next person. Only way to make it anywhere.




yea, plenty of 40 hour a week jobs that pay like $11 an hour...
everything else...

"requires 5 years of experience"


:crankeyclaus:


also there are plenty of people with "human skill sets" that are completely undervalued by society:

artists
writers
painters
musicians

they make jack shit $$$....majority at least


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Supachopped719]
    #22380001 - 10/14/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ah, I thought you were referring to the thread's title, not the title of the article.  I didn't catch that, it was hidden under the link.  Minor point to make, still.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: resonant111] * 1
    #22380019 - 10/14/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not much incentive to work 40 hours a week when it's just for a fuckin roof over your head, transportation and food etc.  Back in the day we could homestead, now in Canada we can't even legally live out in the woods in a stick shelter, or they'll haul our asses back into the city if they find us.


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    #22380038 - 10/14/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Artists don't deserve a single cent they have not earned. It's the nature of the game. I wouldn't waste my money that I bled and strained for to have a pretty picture, unless it was outstandingly unique. And insofar from what I've seen, 98 percent of artists are dull and numb.


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    #22380058 - 10/14/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yep, even if you want to live a minimalist lifestyle they won't let you...

i wanted to buy a yurt for like 4k, put it on a tiny piece of land and run some water/electric to it...but as it turns out, you can't legally do that ANYWHERE in the US due to zoning laws (they want everyone to live in the suburbs basically). same with those tiny houses, pretty much impossible to legally live in one.

i just wish there were more options than "slave your life away until age 70 & live in the suburbs (or some overpriced apartment)"
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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: resonant111]
    #22380083 - 10/14/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Go live in the Northern Cascades or by the Salmon/Chalis NP in Idaho, I bet it would be years before you even saw someone. Let alone getting busted for it.


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    #22380092 - 10/14/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

suck it up buttercup!  back the grindstone, ye of little worth :youdidit:


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    #22380121 - 10/14/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i really hate bitching about this stuff though, i really do.
part of me is like "just play society's game, make some quick money, THEN get out of it"

the idea of professional responsibility just terrifies me though, it really does.
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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: resonant111]
    #22380163 - 10/14/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we gotta get mad, if people didn't get mad about the bad, how would society change for the good?  we are a necessary opposition.  anyone who says otherwise is a tool.  i've seen too many people fall into a one sided position by overstating the good and writing off the negatives... but the truth is, we could we so much better.  i think it's important to recognize the good and the bad.


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    #22380201 - 10/14/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

yea but on some level, i do acknowledge the fact that the whole "job" thing is only a problem for me because i've made it one.
all of my friends went out and have professional jobs. they have money and live "normal" lives.
i resisted that, intentionally....because "that wasn't me" and "there's more to life than money"

but i didn't do anything BETTER, that's the problem.
on some level, i fucked up. and i admit that.
i know eventually i have to go out and make a genuine living for myself.

it just isn't easy because of the past choices i've made.
easy to blame society or the economy, when in reality...i dug my own hole.

just my own personal situation...sorry if this makes no sense


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    #22380217 - 10/14/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

depopulation is the only answer, the problem is food,land,water.  Everything is so expensive because there is so little of those 3 things, along with our corrupt kings that are sucking us dry of course.  If everyone had their equal share of those 3 things, and it was enough to live on, you wouldn't have to work.

The only reason you have to work, is to pay the corrupt government their corrupt tax's.......and because right now there isn't enough of those 3 things to be divided evenly to live off of, unless you chop down all the forests but then everything would turn to desert, and in another 100 years every city will look like new york and have new yorks stupid shitty laws.

anyone who cares about gun rights, look at new york and realize it won't be long until everyplace is like that.


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    #22380245 - 10/14/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

gotta take responsibility... i get that.


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    #22380274 - 10/14/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol yep.

i kinda want to delete the posts i made in this thread cuz they're really embarrassing lol.
feel like i'm tripping out a bit.

i'm just really intimidated by the professional world and project my insecurities onto society at large. i admit it. :boomboom:


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    #22380286 - 10/14/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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and because right now there isn't enough of those 3 things to be divided evenly to live off of, unless you chop down all the forests but then everything would turn to desert, and in another 100 years every city will look like new york and have new yorks stupid shitty laws.




seems that's what they want you to think, to further their agenda in gaining as much wealth in as short of time as possible.


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    #22380337 - 10/14/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i kinda want to delete the posts i made in this thread cuz they're really embarrassing lol.
feel like i'm tripping out a bit.




i know the feeling. check your :pm:


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    #22404416 - 10/19/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its gonna get even worse they have computers that write news stories can do law research so many jobs being replaced by machines


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    #22404433 - 10/19/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

should be illegal to replace jobs with machines at this point all it does is ship dollars oversea's for the machines, then the machines syphon money out of american's to the CEO's, who then horde the money and hide it oversea's


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    #22404461 - 10/19/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The machines are going to eventually be what saves the common person from having to work their whole lives :lol: we should put more resources into 3d printing and related tech and work on creating decentralized community owned fabrication plants using that technology that allows more or less any common item to be created cheaply anywhere.


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    #22404523 - 10/19/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

look at the people who don't work in our society, do u really want to live like them? didn't think so


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    #22404664 - 10/19/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't care what they do... it's not how I live. I have plenty of hobbies and interests I'd much more like to dedicate my life to than working :lol: But it's not so bad as it is, for me, I mostly do things I enjoy to make ends meet.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: twighead]
    #22404714 - 10/19/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
the transition will blow though




Ain't that the truth.

Carreers are a twentieth century invention and I don't want one.

We need to implement unconditional basic income.
I'd volunteer my ass off. Materialists would find a job to supplement the minimalist basic income. A lot more people will work part time. No need to create more jobs. Perfect solution.


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: GoldenEye]
    #22405451 - 10/19/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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    #22405473 - 10/19/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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blankk said:
World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people





obama created those


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22405770 - 10/19/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”"

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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: Sheekle]
    #22407704 - 10/20/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
we should just cut back on the population




what does that have to do with balancing a check book/friends list?


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Re: "World needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people" [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22409341 - 10/20/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My wife and I have both secured permanent government jobs so our careers are relatively secure . It's so hard to find permanent secure jobs so to me that was my goal - a lifelong career protected from lay offs and with a pension.

It's hard to find job security for young people today so I consider us very fortunate. They basically can't ever fire us and have to provide us with a new job if ours ever is downsized.


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