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I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. * 9
    #22377119 - 10/14/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm not going to let opinions get in the way of their personal pursuit of happiness.

It obviously fulfills a need in them and as long as they do so in a responsible way, they have my support.

This thread is about saying NO to transphobia and acknowledges their need to be that way, regardless of what one thinks about the undelying realityies of the situation.

Who are we to obstruct another from being who they feel they need to be if being that harms no one?

Can I get an aye?

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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22377123 - 10/14/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
Can I get an aye?




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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 4
    #22377124 - 10/14/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I do too. I think everyone has a right to the pursuit of happiness aslong as they do so in a manner the doesnt infringe on the pursuit of happiness of others. does that make sense?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #22377132 - 10/14/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Makes perfect sense Chief.

And no, I have known and know transgendered people but I'm all man.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #22377133 - 10/14/15 06:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I could care less what other people do as long as they're not molesting children, or taking advantage of those that cannot defend themselves, it's their lives.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Lucis] * 3
    #22377134 - 10/14/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Molesting children falls under the "harm others" category.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 7
    #22377145 - 10/14/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Having an operation that turns you into a half man half bear would be way better.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22377147 - 10/14/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah.

I just don't get why people care if someone else is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, pan, trans, Christian, Muslim, Satanist, democrat, republican, etc.  I want to see people for who they are, not the label that society tries to attach to them for being what they are. 

I think that it's good for us to meet people from all walks of life, learn from them, this way we're not so small minded, this way we come to a stance of better understanding our fellow man.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22377150 - 10/14/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

BERSERK DESTROYER said:
Having an operation that turns you into a half man half bear would be way better.



if a doctor could do it safely im all for it i mean ive already look into some body mods for myself but the techs not there...yet


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #22377157 - 10/14/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Waiting for the first person to argue that BS pics in the SLOTS thread fell under the harming others category.

I wonder if your thread survives, I made a transgender friendly thread once that quickly turned into a massive shit storm and got closed.

I don't get what people get so upset about regarding this issue...


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #22377163 - 10/14/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

-None of my business.
-Makes people happy.

I see no harm with it.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: EllisDSox] * 1
    #22377169 - 10/14/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Aye.  Ov course i support transgender people.  When a good friend ov mine transitioned, i was one ov her few friends who did as other cowards began to distance themselves from her.  She did get the support and encouragement from her family, but only because it's perceived to be more respectable to be trans than a gay male in thai culture unfortunately.  People should be respected for individual action, not for what group they can be lumped into.

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Having an operation that turns you into a half man half bear would be way better.




I'd want to be full panda, not half panda. 


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22377226 - 10/14/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The beeb are broadcasting a sit com called 'boy meets girl' about a flowering love affair between a m-f transexual and straight/cis? male. Where the 'trans' is played by transexual actress Rebecca Root.

http://bestreams.net/ln5jk9yvyajd

If nothing else it'll test your ability to understand a geordie accent.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22377236 - 10/14/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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This thread is about saying NO to transphobia and acknowledges their need to be that way, regardless of what one thinks about the undelying realityies of the situation.



If I crossed brave new world with 1984 and worked for the ministry of truth and promoted doublethink to the plebs then I could control everyone.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 6
    #22377241 - 10/14/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10] * 3
    #22377249 - 10/14/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What "science"? You wanna show me some, scientist?

I'm with Asante on this un.


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o be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #22377256 - 10/14/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.




Huh?  If there's a way to alter things through science, then it obviously supports it.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22377278 - 10/14/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I will just add that the first country to accept trans-sexualism and the first country to perform male to female sex reassignment was germany in the early 1930's, prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler. The pendulum can only swing so far tot he left before it will swing back just as far to the right. The times appear ripe for the rise of a new version of Hitler, most likely out of America.

The German people were judged by God for their wickedness. 1/3rd of the Germans were killed in WW2, that doesn't get mentioned much because folks like to talk about the 6 million Jews. But that was Gods judgment. A third part of the Germans deservedly died. I think Gods judgment on America may be even worse than the judgment on Germany.

Since Roe v Wade Americans have murdered over 40 million babies, now we torture our fellow man under law, support wicked head choppers in Syria and wars of aggression, are beginning to outlaw the use of the words mother and father, have trans-sexual Jenner presented as "women of the year" as if he is the ideal of womanhood that girls should aspire to be.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
    #22377317 - 10/14/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Webster10 said:
Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.





Its in your genetics that you have no clothes and drugs, yet you use them. That you are born with a dick doesnt mean you won't be happier without one.

The body has gender genetics and the brain has gender genetics and these two can be at odds.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22379146 - 10/14/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There is absolutely no such thing as a man with XX chromosomes. Women with dicks and high testosterone levels are still women. Check chromosomes. Vice versa.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
    #22379184 - 10/14/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Like it even matters, Webby.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22379280 - 10/14/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Ellis Dee said:
I will just add that the first country to accept trans-sexualism and the first country to perform male to female sex reassignment was germany in the early 1930's, prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler. The pendulum can only swing so far tot he left before it will swing back just as far to the right. The times appear ripe for the rise of a new version of Hitler, most likely out of America.

The German people were judged by God for their wickedness. 1/3rd of the Germans were killed in WW2, that doesn't get mentioned much because folks like to talk about the 6 million Jews. But that was Gods judgment. A third part of the Germans deservedly died. I think Gods judgment on America may be even worse than the judgment on Germany.

Since Roe v Wade Americans have murdered over 40 million babies, now we torture our fellow man under law, support wicked head choppers in Syria and wars of aggression, are beginning to outlaw the use of the words mother and father, have trans-sexual Jenner presented as "women of the year" as if he is the ideal of womanhood that girls should aspire to be.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Sheekle]
    #22379348 - 10/14/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nah, just turn the other cheeck, sheekle.
Be the better man in the eyes of Jesus :rofl:


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379360 - 10/14/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sheekle can drink my beer, smoke my weed and raid my fridge at a drug party at my house and I wouldnt be phased.

He saved a LIFE here on the Shroomery, any shklhrt just pales in comparison :rainbowcloud:


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem] * 3
    #22379371 - 10/14/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yet no one ever recognizes my right to be a Puerto Rican. :sad:

One day, when societies more evolved, They'll see.


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[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22379445 - 10/14/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Some amazing species of uncatalogued marine life are being discovered right off of Puerto Rico. You should check it out it's awesome.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Adden]
    #22379449 - 10/14/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Really? That's bad ass. I'll have to check it out.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #22379463 - 10/14/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yet no one ever recognizes my right to be a Puerto Rican. :sad:

One day, when societies more evolved, They'll see.




I literally laughed out loud.


I'm with Asante on this. It's your dick, get rid of it if you want. What business is it of mine?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Angus McAxeHandle] * 3
    #22380366 - 10/14/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

99% of them are not transsexuals, they are transvestites. There is a difference. If people want to play dress up and pretend to be something they are not, let them. But don't blow smoke up my ass and tell me some man is now a woman just because he said so.

I want to be 19 again, if I wish really hard will it come true? How about if I dress up like a teenager, will that do it? Or is there such a thing as reality?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
    #22380382 - 10/14/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.



Do you deny that their genetics led to the dysphoria of when and what hormones were released during fetal brain development?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #22380393 - 10/14/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quit trying to use words you don't understand in a futile effort to look smart.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22380416 - 10/14/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I understand all of those words.  Perhaps you could educate all of us about which ones were incorrectly used.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #22380693 - 10/14/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Who are we to obstruct another from being who they feel they need to be if being that harms no one?





who are they to tell others they arent entitled to their own opinions?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #22380713 - 10/14/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

>who are they to tell others they arent entitled to their own opinions?

Exactly! I for one am tired of any time anyone is not 100% on the bandwagon with the latest pc nonsense, they get called a "phobe" of some sort. I think we should start using words like conservaphobe, realityphobia, and gop-phobia. Since if you are against something or simply don't care for it, you must be afraid of it.

Zap, it was poorly used, quit trying to be another akira.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22380723 - 10/14/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i dont think ppl are tellng anyone that they cant be entitled to thier own opinion i think people were saying like the opposite


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    #22381018 - 10/14/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If people are born with a genetic predisposition to alcoholism, we should celebrate their right to drink themselves into oblivion, rather than offer sound guidance, lest we offend them :shrug:


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22381043 - 10/14/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's completely different. This thread blows.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22381143 - 10/14/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Stonehenge said:
99% of them are not transsexuals, they are transvestites. There is a difference. If people want to play dress up and pretend to be something they are not, let them. But don't blow smoke up my ass and tell me some man is now a woman just because he said so.

I want to be 19 again, if I wish really hard will it come true? How about if I dress up like a teenager, will that do it? Or is there such a thing as reality?




Take an androgen and estrogen and you will easily look 10-20 years younger.

Win-win!

Sure, dress how you feel rather then conforming. Way to go!


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    #22381222 - 10/14/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I will just add that the first country to accept trans-sexualism and the first country to perform male to female sex reassignment was germany in the early 1930's, prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler. The pendulum can only swing so far tot he left before it will swing back just as far to the right. The times appear ripe for the rise of a new version of Hitler, most likely out of America.

The German people were judged by God for their wickedness. 1/3rd of the Germans were killed in WW2, that doesn't get mentioned much because folks like to talk about the 6 million Jews. But that was Gods judgment. A third part of the Germans deservedly died. I think Gods judgment on America may be even worse than the judgment on Germany.

Since Roe v Wade Americans have murdered over 40 million babies, now we torture our fellow man under law, support wicked head choppers in Syria and wars of aggression, are beginning to outlaw the use of the words mother and father, have trans-sexual Jenner presented as "women of the year" as if he is the ideal of womanhood that girls should aspire to be.


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    #22381253 - 10/14/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If people are born with a genetic predisposition to alcoholism, we should celebrate their right to drink themselves into oblivion, rather than offer sound guidance, lest we offend them :shrug:





we should help them do so, remove them from the gene pool and eradicate that gene


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    #22381267 - 10/14/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I had this idea to like... get a vagina grafted into the palm of my hand....


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    #22381278 - 10/14/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sheekle can drink my beer, smoke my weed and raid my fridge at a drug party at my house and I wouldnt be phased.

He saved a LIFE here on the Shroomery, any shklhrt just pales in comparison :rainbowcloud:




I know, Sheekle is a class act. But I was doing this bit where he should turn the other cheek to the rantings and ravings of a Christian lunatic, because that is funny to me :shrug:

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Quit trying to use words you don't understand in a futile effort to look smart.




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A troglodyte calling one of the more intelligent members here out on trying to look smart... geez guy, get a grip.


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    #22381314 - 10/14/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah.

I just don't get why people care if someone else is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, pan, trans, Christian, Muslim, Satanist, democrat, republican, etc.  I want to see people for who they are, not the label that society tries to attach to them for being what they are. 

I think that it's good for us to meet people from all walks of life, learn from them, this way we're not so small minded, this way we come to a stance of better understanding our fellow man.




They care when it comes to trans because trans people demand that you see things their way, that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.


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    #22381361 - 10/14/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22381461 - 10/14/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Abraham Lincoln:

"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22381463 - 10/14/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like that.


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    #22381487 - 10/14/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Reality has a conservative bias :shrug:


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    #22381496 - 10/15/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Abraham Lincoln:

"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."





but if it's always been called a leg then that would make it a leg, then the dog
would have 1 leg or no legs in some cases and 4 appendages for walking

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    #22381498 - 10/15/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like that too.

You're alright.

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    #22381703 - 10/15/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My ex girl friend was trans.

I don't need to click a link to say I'm pro trans rights.

I loved the girl but she was emotionally and physically abusive. Like push me down a flight of stairs abusive.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22381721 - 10/15/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Reality has a conservative bias :shrug:




According to conservatives, for what it's worth.

You're a big black guy but want to be called Shirley and referred to as she?
Sure, why the fuck do I care?
These people got beaten, killed and raped even recently just for who they are.
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    #22381885 - 10/15/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol, srirachi got btthrt and gave me a bad rating.

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    #22381911 - 10/15/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Webster10 said:
Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.



Do you deny that their genetics led to the dysphoria of when and what hormones were released during fetal brain development?



Well, it's clear you don't know what dysphoria means.


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    #22381916 - 10/15/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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These people got beaten, killed and raped even recently just for who they are.
Piss off with your conservative bias, what's it to you?





Most of them are sex trade workers who did not disclose gender to prospective johns. You never hear that though, just how they are victims of hate crimes. It's made to sound like frat boys in pickup trucks are going downtown to bash trannies and that's just not accurate.


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    #22381923 - 10/15/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Turtletotem said:

These people got beaten, killed and raped even recently just for who they are.
Piss off with your conservative bias, what's it to you?





Most of them are sex trade workers who did not disclose gender to prospective johns. You never hear that though, just how they are victims of hate crimes. It's made to sound like frat boys in pickup trucks are going downtown to bash trannies and that's just not accurate.




hahahaha! :rofl:
Oh man... oh man... So not knowing the gender your hooker had at birth is the problem here?

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    #22381932 - 10/15/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

From OED

dysphoria

Origin 

Mid 19th century: from Greek dusphoria, from dusphoros 'hard to bear'.

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Dysphoria (from Greek: δύσφορος (dysphoros), δυσ-, difficult, and φέρειν, to bear)


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    #22382237 - 10/15/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Rocket said:
From OED

dysphoria

Origin 

Mid 19th century: from Greek dusphoria, from dusphoros 'hard to bear'.

Wikipedia

Dysphoria (from Greek: δύσφορος (dysphoros), δυσ-, difficult, and φέρειν, to bear)



Rocket, that was a dumb and irrelevant post. I thought you were banned forever. I hate that you're back and I hate you.


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    #22382241 - 10/15/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:shocked: dont talk to rocket like that its not nice :nonono:


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    #22382245 - 10/15/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I will get banned for that post, but it was worth it:thumbup:


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    #22382255 - 10/15/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Shunned perhaps, but not banned.


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    #22382392 - 10/15/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Webster10, you said "There is absolutely no such thing as a man with XX chromosomes. Women with dicks and high testosterone levels are still women. Check chromosomes. Vice versa."

"XX male syndrome (also called de la Chapelle syndrome, for Albert de la Chapelle, who characterized it in 1972[1][2]) is a rare sex chromosomal disorder. Usually, it is caused by unequal crossing over between X and Y chromosomes during meiosis in the father, which results in the X chromosome containing the normally-male SRY gene. When this X combines with a normal X from the mother during fertilization, the result is an XX male."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome

You said "Women with dicks and high testosterone levels are still women." Interesting, I thought you would say they're still men, hmmm.

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    #22382406 - 10/15/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My gf is preop transgender female. Probably the best girlfriend I have had so far. Sex is pretty amazing too.


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    #22382414 - 10/15/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i dont think ppl are tellng anyone that they cant be entitled to thier own opinion i think people were saying like the opposite



There is a campaign to eliminate free speech in western society. Transgender and other hate groups are actually trying to criminalize the word mother and father, to call it hate speech because its hurtful to their sensitive feelings. Today in Sweden or Germany if someone openly criticizes immigration they are called zenophobic and have their children abducted by child services to protect them from a "zenophobic household". Oh yes CHeifM4sterDiezL, there you are told not to express your beliefs or go to joil, or lose your job, or get expelled from university. Diversity is a lie. I've been out of college for years, but at my university 6-10 years ago if you had unpopular opinions you knew to keep them to yourself. And nowadays I hear they put you on probation or expell you for criticizing feminism or abortion (murdering babies) for the severe crime of being culturally insensitive.


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    #22382420 - 10/15/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i dont care what they do in retard europe they can do whatever the fuck they want with their bullshit  :frenchie: i was sayin like here on the shroomery like in this thread


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    #22382554 - 10/15/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Webster10:
Denying genetics is a practice totally unsupported by science.

zappaisgod:
Do you deny that their genetics led to the dysphoria of when and what hormones were released during fetal brain development?

Stonehenge:
Quit trying to use words you don't understand in a futile effort to look smart.

zappaisgod:
I understand all of those words.  Perhaps you could educate all of us about which ones were incorrectly used.

Webster10:
Well, it's clear you don't know what dysphoria means.



Rocket:
From OED

dysphoria

Origin 

Mid 19th century: from Greek dusphoria, from dusphoros 'hard to bear'.

Wikipedia

Dysphoria (from Greek: δύσφορος (dysphoros), δυσ-, difficult, and φέρειν, to bear)

Webster10:
Rocket, that was a dumb and irrelevant post. I thought you were banned forever. I hate that you're back and I hate you.

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    #22382570 - 10/15/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This ones a little more accurate bud.

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    #22382615 - 10/15/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Fennario said:
Yeah.

I just don't get why people care if someone else is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, pan, trans, Christian, Muslim, Satanist, democrat, republican, etc.  I want to see people for who they are, not the label that society tries to attach to them for being what they are. 

I think that it's good for us to meet people from all walks of life, learn from them, this way we're not so small minded, this way we come to a stance of better understanding our fellow man.




They care when it comes to trans because trans people demand that you see things their way, that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.




You can call me whatever bro, wouldn't want to hurt your delicate feelings

Ah well just like everything in media, people puke on it because it's trendy.

Ten more years errything back to normal. Look at every musicstyle, ever x)


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    #22382619 - 10/15/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh I'm familiar with OED's definition, Blankk.

I didn't want to be too hard on Webster10, so I showed the origin of the word dysphoria. It is from Greek and means 'hard to bear'.


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Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

Fennario said:
Yeah.

I just don't get why people care if someone else is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, pan, trans, Christian, Muslim, Satanist, democrat, republican, etc.  I want to see people for who they are, not the label that society tries to attach to them for being what they are. 

I think that it's good for us to meet people from all walks of life, learn from them, this way we're not so small minded, this way we come to a stance of better understanding our fellow man.




They care when it comes to trans because trans people demand that you see things their way, that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.




You can call me whatever bro, wouldn't want to hurt your delicate feelings

Ah well just like everything in media, people puke on it because it's trendy.

Ten more years errything back to normal. Look at every musicstyle, ever x)



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    #22382649 - 10/15/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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>who are they to tell others they arent entitled to their own opinions?

Exactly! I for one am tired of any time anyone is not 100% on the bandwagon with the latest pc nonsense, they get called a "phobe" of some sort. I think we should start using words like conservaphobe, realityphobia, and gop-phobia. Since if you are against something or simply don't care for it, you must be afraid of it.

Zap, it was poorly used, quit trying to be another akira.



It wasn't poorly phrased and the words were used perfectly.  I am not an illiterate little shit like so many here and that post was nothing like what Akira would say.

I agree about the -phobe thing.  Phobia means fear of.  I don't think anybody who is disgusted by them is actually afraid of most of the groups that get that suffix appended.

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    #22382660 - 10/15/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Oh I'm familiar with OED's definition, Blankk.

I didn't want to be too hard on Webster10, so I showed the origin of the word dysphoria. It is from Greek and means 'hard to bear'.



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Piss off with your conservative bias, what's it to you?



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lol, srirachi got btthrt and gave me a bad rating.





No, I gave you that bad rating BEFORE you told me to fuck off, because you're an awful poster. Your responses show that you lack the emotional maturity to engage in a conversation with someone who has a different opinion than you do. If you don't like what you hear, you resort to ad hominem attacks and launch into a disjointed tirade about how people are dying as if to imply that everyone URGENTLY needs to accept your point of view.


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    #22382683 - 10/15/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OTD ain't got SHIT on my troll thread crafting abilities!




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    #22382691 - 10/15/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Transgendered people are now taking away all the attention away from gay people, just like gay people took away all the attention away from straight people.

I saw some show on TV where men wear masks to look like women, they're going to steal attention away from the transgendered community in the years ahead. :lol:


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22382728 - 10/15/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Beanhead said:
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Yeah.

I just don't get why people care if someone else is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, pan, trans, Christian, Muslim, Satanist, democrat, republican, etc.  I want to see people for who they are, not the label that society tries to attach to them for being what they are. 

I think that it's good for us to meet people from all walks of life, learn from them, this way we're not so small minded, this way we come to a stance of better understanding our fellow man.




They care when it comes to trans because trans people demand that you see things their way, that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.




You can call me whatever bro, wouldn't want to hurt your delicate feelings

Ah well just like everything in media, people puke on it because it's trendy.

Ten more years errything back to normal. Look at every musicstyle, ever x)



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What didn't you understand?
Do you believe trans* people don't realize that?
Demands :lol:


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    #22382821 - 10/15/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"They care when it comes to trans because trans people demand that you see things their way, that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with."

Not all trans people demand that you see things their way. Some do, although you think that exclusively applies to trans people? Nobody else demands that you see things their way? Straight, gay, bi, lesbian, queer people and plenty of coulters do it.

"that you restrict use of everyday non-offensive words because they might get offended. Live and let live, but dont demand that I see them the way they see themselves. To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with."


You're unwillingness to except the facts about gender is yours to keep then.


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    #22383289 - 10/15/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You should just spam some more graemlins.  Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.


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    #22383384 - 10/15/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did Rocket just actually say that transgendered people are defective?


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    #22383566 - 10/15/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Zap in a very typical move refuses to admit he used the word poorly even when its defined for him.

"a state of unease or generalized dissatisfaction with life."

You could say the mix of hormones later in life could lead to dysphoria with ones sex, if that is what you meant. But the phrasing you used is so clumsy as to be almost unintelligible.

>Do you deny that their genetics led to the dysphoria of when and what hormones were released during fetal brain development?


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    #22383719 - 10/15/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You should just spam some more graemlins.  Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.



Their genetics caused an illtimed and atypical flood of hormones during development.

http://www.majickalproductions.biz/bekasite/resouces/In-Womb%20Development.htm

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How does the MtF Transsexual?

Like the normal male embryo, the male to female Transsexual brain starts out female. Then between the 8th and 24th weeks, the ‘XY’ chromosomes introduce testosterone hormonal changes, but the hormonal washes as faulty. They are either insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body. However, some of the default (original) female brain processes remain intact. Thus, the brain’s gender identity remain intact. Thus, the brains gender identity remains female. This means that Transsexual males whose process of brain masculinization was incomplete, Their default female brains still function. The degree of arrested development can vary. The orgininal brain circuitry that was missed in the masculinizing process provides a continuing feminine influence. This explains why many Transsexuals, biological males know, from as early as 3 years old, that they are actually members of the opposite sex.




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What is the job of the ‘XX’ and ‘XY’ chromosomes?

It seems that one of the jobs of the ‘XX’ and ‘XY’ chromosomes is to govern the introduction of testosterone into the womb. However, chromosomal influence is limited by the many glitches that can happen during the fetal growth process. This is why each human being possesses a unique mixture of male and female traits. Some of these mixes (eg: Transsexualism) make the individuals who have them significantly different from society’s expectations. This causes these people much confusion and suffering. Indeed, there are, in our world, many males who have ‘XX’ chromosomes and many females who have ‘XY’ chromosomes.




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    #22383747 - 10/15/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

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    #22383753 - 10/15/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

See.  She's obviously a woman.


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    #22383763 - 10/15/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And a bit of a cunt at that


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Yeah, a bit.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #22383962 - 10/15/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Tripsurfer said:
At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

got bitchssnubbed :snub:



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At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

got bitchssnubbed :snub:




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    #22384030 - 10/15/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm not going to let opinions get in the way of their personal pursuit of happiness.

It obviously fulfills a need in them and as long as they do so in a responsible way, they have my support.

This thread is about saying NO to transphobia and acknowledges their need to be that way, regardless of what one thinks about the undelying realityies of the situation.

Who are we to obstruct another from being who they feel they need to be if being that harms no one?

Can I get an aye?

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    #22384125 - 10/15/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, that's... there's a center? What is it all about exactly? Are there brochures and stuff?


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    #22384145 - 10/15/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow, that's... there's a center? What is it all about exactly? Are there brochures and stuff?




Basically the space is rented for all sorts of meetings, you know it can be a space for elderly gays to meet, or trans community meetups, or parents and families, gay disabled, gay sports teams heh,  there are myriads of activities that occur at the center, art galleries, there's a library... Troubled gay youth may come for resources, runaways etc.....  We're the only center between S.F and Vancouver..... Seattle doesn't have one, kind of sad.

Yanno, here in Oregon insurance will pay for gender reassignment surgery, but there are a lot of bullshit hoops to jump through, same as our death by dignity laws.. Seems progressive but the amount of people who actually get to take advantage of this shit is not impressive.


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    #22385534 - 10/15/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My gf is preop transgender female. Probably the best girlfriend I have had so far. Sex is pretty amazing too.




Mine was the same I did have a trouble keeping a boner while she grabbed lube. I tried it but It's not really for me. I like women. But when things were good they were great. I still listen to a pandora station she showed me. She had great tastes in music, movies, anime. We played through borderlands 2 together. I never felt uncomfortable with her except when she started being an abusive bitch.


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    #22385620 - 10/15/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not to downplay their want for equal treatment - that should be a given - it's surprising how big of a deal the issue is with trans people, when they're an estimated .1-.3% of the population.


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They're a very vocal minority


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    #22386006 - 10/15/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Asante, I :heart: you! :*-) :hug:



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    #22386922 - 10/16/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, I gave you that bad rating BEFORE you told me to fuck off, because you're an awful poster. Your responses show that you lack the emotional maturity to engage in a conversation with someone who has a different opinion than you do. If you don't like what you hear, you resort to ad hominem attacks and launch into a disjointed tirade about how people are dying as if to imply that everyone URGENTLY needs to accept your point of view.




:lol:

I called you out on your "reality has a conservative bias" bullshit, and you got butthurt. That is what happened.

Liberals say the same thing, only that it has a liberal bias.
Both parties always say it like it's general knowledge, weird isn't it?



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    #22386961 - 10/16/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If reality had conservative bias the big bang wouldnt have happened, galaxies wouldnt have formed and we'd still be in the pre-cambrian era of evolution.

Mother nature LOVES new things and lets them completely turn the status quo upside down if they are viable.

In a world where the past consistently was less advanced than the present and the present less advanced than the future, conservatism is a resistance to the flow of things.

Completely contrary to mother nature it favors the old over the young.


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    #22386965 - 10/16/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nature betrays transgender people by assigning them the wrong gender, though. What a cunt.


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    #22386968 - 10/16/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nature challenges transgender people, just like all other people are challenged in their own ways.

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    #22386976 - 10/16/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.




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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387032 - 10/16/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome video, I may watch the rest of the hedwig and the angry inch songs on youtube.
Never heard of it before :thumbup:

I think we should embrace and support identity diversity and the ability to live the identity you truly want to be.

There is just no reason to be opposed to this. I do feel sympathy for the hard road that Transgender people often have to walk, but thats all the more reason to support them and not make it even harder.

A great documentary: Growing up Trans. Very fascinating watch for me.

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    #22387054 - 10/16/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you're interested in Hedwig & the Angry Inch I recommend you watch the movie!


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    #22387061 - 10/16/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The shitty part about Hedwig I didn't like was at the end you learned Hedwig regretted becoming a female and the movie was more about overcoming the biggest regret ever, and more about being comfortable in your own skin, even if you fucked your skin up. I don't consider the movie painting trans in a bad light, but it was def. not a positive light imo, either.


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    #22387070 - 10/16/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it was a mixed signal but still I think a good movie.


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    #22387072 - 10/16/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As I understand it the problem was the transition surgery was botched, so she wasn't able to become a woman or go back to being a man.


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    #22387075 - 10/16/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I gave it like a 6.5-7
It was good, above average for sure
I its in the category if really really really liked it
one really shy of loving it.


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    #22387151 - 10/16/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I gave it like a 6.5-7
It was good, above average for sure
I its in the category if really really really liked it
one really shy of loving it.




I'll give you fuckers another chance to watch what I labled a sit-com on the first page.
I've since learned the correct lable is rom-com. Found it on the tube this time>



I'd put this in the category of, made me smile.


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    #22387815 - 10/16/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If reality had conservative bias the big bang wouldnt have happened, galaxies wouldnt have formed and we'd still be in the pre-cambrian era of evolution.

Mother nature LOVES new things and lets them completely turn the status quo upside down if they are viable.

In a world where the past consistently was less advanced than the present and the present less advanced than the future, conservatism is a resistance to the flow of things.

Completely contrary to mother nature it favors the old over the young.



Well that is one of your more deranged set pieces.  What conservatism are you talking about?  Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species  or fiscal conservatism which is 100% rooted in the science of human behavior?


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    #22387978 - 10/16/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Things that seem abnormal often make people uncomfortable. Should they lie and say that it doesn't?


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    #22388029 - 10/16/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well that is one of your more deranged set pieces.  What conservatism are you talking about?  Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species  or fiscal conservatism which is 100% rooted in the science of human behavior?




:ohyou:
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    #22388039 - 10/16/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species 




How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.


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    #22388116 - 10/16/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, I gave you that bad rating BEFORE you told me to fuck off, because you're an awful poster.




:lol:

I called you out on your "reality has a conservative bias" bullshit, and you got butthurt. That is what happened.







Then I am a gifted psychic who through foreknowledge of your plans to "call me out on my conservative bullshit" became butthurt and rated you nearly 2 hours in advance of your ever so hurtful comments.



You'll note that your feedback has not been edited... My opinion is based on your post history, not on your goofy rejoinder.

Normally I won't invest this sort of time into a pointless endeavor, but it's really funny to me that you'd expect anyone to take your opinions seriously any more, when you obviously jump to conclusions and stand on them as if it is irrefutable fact. :lol:


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22388119 - 10/16/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I feel like we're mucking it up a bit here, let's backpedal:

You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.

Some may be fucked in the head, sure. So help them. Don't be a huge dick about it, they've got enough issues in that area as it is! ;)

Nobody is hurting you, but plenty of people are hurting them,out of pure malice. Trans people have been murdered because they are trans. Try to imagine that.

So why can't we all just get along?

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    #22388276 - 10/16/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.



A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.


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    #22388290 - 10/16/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nobody is hurting you, but plenty of people are hurting them,out of pure malice. Trans people have been murdered because they are trans. Try to imagine that.



This deserves its own reply. All the trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes or sex trade workers who do not reveal their sex to their John. Also there have been cases where a trans dated a heterosexual without revealing his true sex. Tricking someone into involuntarily performing homosexual acts has lead many a trans to a sort of instant justice. If they were honest and disclosed what they were those incidents would have never happened.


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    #22388298 - 10/16/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22388306 - 10/16/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nature challenges transgender people, just like all other people are challenged in their own ways.

I'm challenged with homosexuality and a tendency to obesity.




Can you grow a good beard? Furry? You could be a hot bear w/ a huge audience of potential lovers. Just sayin'


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    #22388337 - 10/16/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.




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    #22388354 - 10/16/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species 




How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.




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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22388579 - 10/16/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.



A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.




Even if this is true the compassionate thing is to play along and pretend they are what they want to be, don't you think?

Pointing that out is just hurtful to them and changes nothing.


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    #22388625 - 10/16/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Even if this is true the compassionate thing is to play along and pretend they are what they want to be, don't you think?

Pointing that out is just hurtful to them and changes nothing.



Playing into the delusional thinking of crazy people does not help them. And allowing them to begin destroying normal society by mandating that the words mother and father are hate speech because its hurtful to their mental illness is symptomatic of a society that is itself mentally ill.


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    #22388638 - 10/16/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They aren't crazy but your second sentence certainly makes me think you might be.  Who the fuck do you hang out with?


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    #22388650 - 10/16/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They aren't crazy but your second sentence certainly makes me think you might be.  Who the fuck do you hang out with?



Transgenders are pushing for words like he. she, mother, and father to be replaced. It has gone so far as to claim the words mother and father are hate speech. Oh, and unisex bathrooms too. Its all getting totally messed up.


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    #22388670 - 10/16/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't seen that.  If they are they are limited to a very few nutcases.


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    #22388692 - 10/16/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species 




How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.




At the center of every extended family is a nuclear family.



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    #22388742 - 10/16/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its being pushed hard for adoption in California. They are going to begin forcing it on the children in public schools. Children will grow up thinking its normal. Its the next step in political correctness.

And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom.  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/
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The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that the law takes effect on Thursday with the aim of accommodating transgender and gender non-conforming people




The freakazoids are well organized and are well funded by liberals who have a powerful hatred for America. They want to destroy everything good and decent. Just wait, the next step is they'll try to normalize pedophilia, they really will. Thats how bad they are.


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    #22388772 - 10/16/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom.  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/




No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.


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    #22388788 - 10/16/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Its being pushed hard for adoption in California. They are going to begin forcing it on the children in public schools. Children will grow up thinking its normal. Its the next step in political correctness.

And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom.  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/
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The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that the law takes effect on Thursday with the aim of accommodating transgender and gender non-conforming people




The freakazoids are well organized and are well funded by liberals who have a powerful hatred for America. They want to destroy everything good and decent. Just wait, the next step is they'll try to normalize pedophilia, they really will. Thats how bad they are.



Aside from the fact that California is the land of fruits and nuts I was more referring to the issue of certain nutjobs objecting to the word mother and father.  That I had not heard of.


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    #22388832 - 10/16/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

To be specific I think I saw that on drudge report or breitbart a while ago. I don't have a link handy.


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    #22388852 - 10/16/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh I have absolutely no doubt that there is a handful of nitwits crying for that.  I just don't think it is much more than a handful.


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    #22392890 - 10/17/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It always starts with a handful of sensitive cry babies. Then before you know it you're in sensitivity training for saying the words "merry christmas" instead of "happy holidays" because you forgot to be inclusive.



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    #22392930 - 10/17/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your sig makes me so mad. Why do we allow those creatures live at all, and I mean tigers,  not gender confuse people.


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    #22393067 - 10/17/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.




Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom.  The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing.  I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room.  I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into.  When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.


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    #22393098 - 10/17/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.




Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom.  The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing.  I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room.  I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into.  When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.



There have already been incidents of male perverts taping women peeing in these trannie bathrooms. Do you want to be taped naked on the can? The perverts are in charge now. They already took over in California.


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    #22393142 - 10/17/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Women have been taped using the can since video cameras could be snuck into cans.  This isn't a new thing.  I've used public restrooms before and accept that this may happen.  Looking back, I'd be surprised if it hasn't already happened to me in 34 years of using public restrooms.  I'm not saying that it's right by any means, but it's going to happen.

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    #22393628 - 10/17/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.




Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom.  The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing.  I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room.  I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into.  When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.




As politely as possible, you are fortunate your encounters include you being identified as a woman while going into the men's room.

By contrast, women who even look like men are apparently harassed just as a trans might be, for being in the women's room;
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When Cortney Bogorad heard a Fishbone's Rhythm Kitchen Cafe security guard shout repeatedly into the women's restroom for the man inside to come out, she wondered what the commotion was about.

Bogorad, who described the incident to the Free Press last week, said she was floored when she realized the guard's demands were aimed at her.

"It was absolutely insane to me," Bogorad said. "I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe they wouldn't believe me when I said I was a girl or that they wouldn't look at my ID."

Bogorad said the situation quickly escalated after the guard rebuffed her numerous attempts to show ID to prove she was indeed a woman.

She claims the man slammed her into the restroom wall, grabbed her by her hooded sweater and bra, carried her through the restaurant and threw her on the ground outside.




http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/22/fishbones-woman-speaks/71243408/

Stories about trans individuals in the women's room having security or police called on them happens as well; however, this incident was particularly interesting because she was apparently (for whatever it is actually worth) biologically female from birth, in the women's bathroom, and forcefully ejected simply because someone decided she looks like a man.


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    #22394066 - 10/17/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd just like to say that I honestly hate having anyone in the same room as I am while I pee. Male, female, transgender, intersex, asexual, whatever. It's fucking awkward to me knowing that I am disposing of bodily waste while all anyone has to do is bend down and see my lady bits doing unlady things.  :uhoh:


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    #22396441 - 10/18/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.




Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom.  The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing.  I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room.  I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into.  When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.



There have already been incidents of male perverts taping women peeing in these trannie bathrooms. Do you want to be taped naked on the can? The perverts are in charge now. They already took over in California.




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    #22396479 - 10/18/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Oh I'm familiar with OED's definition, Blankk.

I didn't want to be too hard on Webster10, so I showed the origin of the word dysphoria. It is from Greek and means 'hard to bear'.



Be honest, you thought the origin was the defintion.



definitions and facts, medical and lingual, change all the time.

you have no idea wtf you are talking about. "you thought the origin was the definition LOL"

if the origin isn't a part of the definition then how the fuck did the definition come to be? out of thin fucking air? you? did you make the definition we all use?

this is the new grammar nazi - definition hawks. "oh bro you aren't using one of the 10 definitions for that word properly yo!"

yeah, well, i'll stand by my own definition, is that asking too much? you can't understand what can be explained to you, something that a child could understand?

DYSPHORIA: a STATE OF UNEASE.

STATE...not feeling...STATE. Zappa used the word fine to describe someone's physiological hormonal state, as in, there can be a dysphoria from someone's general chemical makeup at the time, ie if someone takes MDMA and an MAOI, they get Serotonin storm...this is a dysphoria, which can make one dysphoric.

it is a pathology. not simply a "feeling".

PS:
definitions of words can be amended to with new interpretation.

words do not come pre-fabricated, we invent them; they didn't come out of the box predetermined to convey meaning.

we gave words their meaning and definitions, based on their usage. USAGE defines the meaning of the word...the words do not come ontologically prepped with significance to be defined and then separated by it's usage; usage first, then definition.

hence definitionally, definition can change, just like it always has been.


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    #22396482 - 10/18/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You should just spam some more graemlins.  Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.



then how do you explain Chimerism?


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    #22396587 - 10/18/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It always starts with a handful of sensitive cry babies. Then before you know it you're in sensitivity training for saying the words "merry christmas" instead of "happy holidays" because you forgot to be inclusive.






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    #22396911 - 10/18/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You should just spam some more graemlins.  Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.



then how do you explain Chimerism?




Here's a woman that gave birth to children that DNA testing apparently 'proved' weren't geneticaly hers.

Go to 15:34



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    #22396932 - 10/18/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

xactactly.


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    #22396954 - 10/18/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It always starts with a handful of sensitive cry babies. Then before you know it you're in sensitivity training for saying the words "merry christmas" instead of "happy holidays" because you forgot to be inclusive.






Your imaginary problems shouldn't stand in the way of other people's ability to lead their lives, tho.




Well, now that's a kinda fucked up statement right there. Who decides who's problems are imaginary? So we should bend over backwards for trans but this mans problems are "imaginary"?

I don't care either way on the actual issue, I'm just saying that it's that line of thinking that caused this "oppression" everyone speaks of.


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    #22396988 - 10/18/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it's a slippery slope type-scenario though, very unlikely to happen, and the whole premise is a fallacy in logic, because it devotes the entire human race to HIS line of thinking, and all the while it's all less likely to happen and even less so over night so then they're couldn't be any sort of found resolution, being that they can't resolve their issues and absolutely must resort to the utmost illogical type of fallacious statement, "oh it's all downhill from here!" (sarcasm) :facepalm:

what where's here?where are we going?are we doomed to intussusception based on one man's crazy theory?are we not allowed to define our resolve to not have to even try to reason with such a ridiculous assertion that because people want a proper parity in their environment, they feel towards sexually or gender-wise, that the whole world is going to go topsy-turvy and people's laws and systems and logic go out the window and the world become some Mad Max scenario of apocalypse into a new world order of change and progession and fascist development, all because we fuckin' share bathrooms?


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22397002 - 10/18/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: I'm just sayin'. Who's saying they're not the one's with imaginary problems? Not saying that's the case, but it's food for thought.

My point is, Who gets to decide who's problems are legitimate? Slippery slope, my man. Slippery slope.


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    #22397012 - 10/18/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well...these gender-specific folks are the counter-opposition. the ones fighting for THEIR RIGHTS aren't fighting anything but people's perceptions, and no one was an intentional target...see what i'm sayin'?

the collateral damage here, if i may put it so bluntly, is people's so called "self respect" but it's not to do with anything but themselves, YET they treat other people like it's their problem because they're looking for change and it offends certain people's 'sensibilities'; i mean, is that alright? isn't that sort of the inverse quality here, man? :fasted:


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    #22397046 - 10/18/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, man, I wasn't saying anything's one way or another. Like I said, I honestly have no opinion on the matter. I was just givin' y'all something to think about.


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    #22397049 - 10/18/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nobody is hurting you, but plenty of people are hurting them,out of pure malice. Trans people have been murdered because they are trans. Try to imagine that.



This deserves its own reply. All the trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes or sex trade workers who do not reveal their sex to their John. Also there have been cases where a trans dated a heterosexual without revealing his true sex. Tricking someone into involuntarily performing homosexual acts has lead many a trans to a sort of instant justice. If they were honest and disclosed what they were those incidents would have never happened.





that's false.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22397053 - 10/18/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't get me wrong, man, I wasn't saying anything's one way or another. Like I said, I honestly have no opinion on the matter. I was just givin' y'all something to think about.



same here. glad we could be objective.


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    #22397058 - 10/18/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This deserves its own reply. All the trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes or sex trade workers who do not reveal their sex to their John.




I've been with ya for most of this thread, man, but you can't really believe this, can you? I'm not saying that what you're talking about doesn't happen, but you can't say that all Trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes.


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    #22397061 - 10/18/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't get me wrong, man, I wasn't saying anything's one way or another. Like I said, I honestly have no opinion on the matter. I was just givin' y'all something to think about.



same here. glad we could be objective.




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    #22397066 - 10/18/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:


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    #22397069 - 10/18/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can agree with that

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    #22397078 - 10/18/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:




I support the rights of individuals, I dont give a shit if someone is gay,
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    #22397089 - 10/18/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:




I support the rights of individuals, I dont give a shit if someone is gay,
straight, transgender or trans species, I'll treat them all the same...
unless I plan on having sex with them and then I'll treat them like a
plastic fuck doll



I support their rights too, they can call themselves whatever they want.

If some white guy turned himself black and wanted to be called African-American I'd have no problem, but to me he'd be a white guy who turned himself black.


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    #22397113 - 10/18/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This deserves its own reply. All the trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes or sex trade workers who do not reveal their sex to their John.




I have had 2 occasions where I was hurt (beat up first, hit with rocks second) because I was trans, and I am not a prostitute :lol:
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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:



As I transgender (Please don't think I'm fishing for attention) I can wholeheartedly agree. Even in the case of sex changes. Like South Park said, it's not a girl, it's a mutilated man. I'm not a girl, I'm a dude who feels like a lesbian girl and I'm confused about it, so I just wear sundresses most of the time and chop my hair like a girl because it makes me feel comfortable and makes me feel real, not like I'm putting on an act. I prefer trans, or transboy, but I'll take he or she any day. Anyone who gets butthurt over being called a boy or girl is an overly-sensitive douche ime.
I used to get judged on a daily basis for being trans, very hostilely, but ever since all the Caitlyn Jenner shit happened I've been getting treated like a fucking princess. Oh, America.


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    #22397117 - 10/18/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:




I support the rights of individuals, I dont give a shit if someone is gay,
straight, transgender or trans species, I'll treat them all the same...
unless I plan on having sex with them and then I'll treat them like a
plastic fuck doll



I support their rights too, they can call themselves whatever they want.

If some white guy turned himself black and wanted to be called African-American I'd have no problem, but to me he'd be a white guy who turned himself black.





which is why I support your right to have your own opinions. someone wants to
hate on a certain color of people, transgenders, gays, all of mankind, that's
their personal views as well and it's a part of who they are, it's their right,
(except for places like canada and the pub) to express their unpopular,
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    #22397140 - 10/18/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Who mentioned hate?


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    #22397205 - 10/18/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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which is why I support your right to have your own opinions. someone wants to
hate on a certain color of people, transgenders, gays, all of mankind, that's
their personal views as well and it's a part of who they are, it's their right,
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person has the right to express their views of hate, I have the right to ignore
them or to express my own views to ridicule them




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    #22397308 - 10/18/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm entitled to my own opinion, and I don't support transgender people. Do what you want, but don't be an attention whore about it.


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    #22397388 - 10/18/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22397506 - 10/18/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22397843 - 10/18/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm entitled to my own opinion, and I don't support transgender people. Do what you want, but don't be an attention whore about it.



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I'm entitled to my own opinion, and I don't support transgender people. Do what you want, but don't be an attention whore about it.



You don't have a problem with trans people, you have a problem with attention whores.



Personally I'd like to support your right to live as you please without any material harm to myself, but denounce your activities as unwholesome as well. I do not like what you do, but it is your life and not mine. I'm pretty much live and let live but don't try to inconvenience me in this way.

How do you feel about the islamic immigration? I've noticed a lot of gay folks support the immigration despite the fact that the immigrants would like to kill you by beheading. I have found this quite the illogical position on the part of liberals and gays as it is literally a suicidal position to take, because if the muslims really do take over, they will murder you first in accordance with their customs. Thoughts?


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    #22398084 - 10/18/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

do people just migrate to conservatism for the sheer fact of evolutionary bias?


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    #22398103 - 10/18/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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do people just migrate to conservatism for the sheer fact of evolutionary bias?



Conservatism is the new counterculture.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398124 - 10/18/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

oh how right you are


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398166 - 10/18/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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do people just migrate to conservatism for the sheer fact of evolutionary bias?



Conservatism is the new counterculture.



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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398447 - 10/18/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally I'd like to support your right to live as you please without any material harm to myself, but denounce your activities as unwholesome as well. I do not like what you do, but it is your life and not mine. I'm pretty much live and let live but don't try to inconvenience me in this way.

How do you feel about the islamic immigration? I've noticed a lot of gay folks support the immigration despite the fact that the immigrants would like to kill you by beheading. I have found this quite the illogical position on the part of liberals and gays as it is literally a suicidal position to take, because if the muslims really do take over, they will murder you first in accordance with their customs. Thoughts?



I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?
I also don't think it's great to assume that all trans are gay (I am trans but I am not attracted to males) and all gays are liberals, or that all muslims are blood-thirsty terrorists.. To answer your question, I don't have a strong stance on the subject. I do believe that people need salvation for their family from a near uninhabitable warzone, but there is also the problem of actual terrorists posing as refugees, and an influx of too many people, people who likely do not speak the language or understand the culture of the country they're fleeing to. It's an extremely complicated issue, so please consider viewing it (as well as the world) as less black and white.


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    #22398488 - 10/18/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally I'd like to support your right to live as you please without any material harm to myself, but denounce your activities as unwholesome as well. I do not like what you do, but it is your life and not mine. I'm pretty much live and let live but don't try to inconvenience me in this way.

How do you feel about the islamic immigration? I've noticed a lot of gay folks support the immigration despite the fact that the immigrants would like to kill you by beheading. I have found this quite the illogical position on the part of liberals and gays as it is literally a suicidal position to take, because if the muslims really do take over, they will murder you first in accordance with their customs. Thoughts?



I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?
I also don't think it's great to assume that all trans are gay (I am trans but I am not attracted to males)




if you're a trans girl doesnt that make you a homosexual?


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    #22398612 - 10/18/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I am a boy who likes girls. My dick likes vagina, so I'm straight :lol: I feel like a lesbian, so if you are more comfortable referring to me as a homosexual girl, I have no problem with that, but technically I am straight and that's how I classify myself :smile:


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    #22398628 - 10/18/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?



OK. I consider it vandalism against God's creation. We are formed from the dust of the Earth male and female and into us is breathed the breath of life. We are living spirit, the temple of the holy spirit, and vandalising the temple which we are is more than repugnant, it is revolting to me, a sort of instinctual disgust.


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    #22398632 - 10/18/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22398647 - 10/18/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If we are living spirit, then isn't the body only a vessel and therefore what we do with it is not that important?


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398659 - 10/18/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?



OK. I consider it vandalism against God's creation. We are formed from the dust of the Earth male and female and into us is breathed the breath of life. We are living spirit, the temple of the holy spirit, and vandalising the temple which we are is more than repugnant, it is revolting to me, a sort of instinctual disgust.





If there is a god, and we are made in gods image, and god is all knowing, then clearly god would know that people would choose to be trans, gay, straight, etc, therefore making god both male/female way I see it.

Someone could say you vandalize your temple by using substances, so you just pick and choose what gets to vandalize your temple and others don't. 

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    #22398672 - 10/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If we are living spirit, then isn't the body only a vessel and therefore what we do with it is not that important?



Yes, the body is a vessel. Calling it only a vessel tends to diminish the value of the gift we have been given imo. You can have your own opinion based on what you see the implications to be. I see the body as a special gift which we should take good care of.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398676 - 10/18/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

more 'evolution'....


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    #22398688 - 10/18/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?



OK. I consider it vandalism against God's creation. We are formed from the dust of the Earth male and female and into us is breathed the breath of life. We are living spirit, the temple of the holy spirit, and vandalising the temple which we are is more than repugnant, it is revolting to me, a sort of instinctual disgust.



Well, I respect your view. However, I did not do any vandalize my body at all unless you count tattoos. I simply feel like a girl and prefer to keep my appearance closer to that of a girl's. Just because I cut my hair and wear clothes that my gender doesn't usually wear doesn't mean I am spitting on "God's" creation. I don't think your God took clothing and hairstyles into consideration when he created genders, I think he just differentiated them with organs, chemicals, and chromosomes. If he saw me, he would say I was a boy.
Do you consider tattoos a "vandalization" of God's property too? Haircuts? Makeup? Like I said, I respect your view, but I don't even consider sex changes as some crazy unholy act. It's simply a dude who wants to look more like a girl. Any god that would be displeased with his creations becoming happier and more comfortable is not a god that I want to look up to.
UPDATE: You still haven't explained how being transgender is a vandalization of the body.


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    #22398690 - 10/18/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. :shrug:




I support the rights of individuals, I dont give a shit if someone is gay,
straight, transgender or trans species, I'll treat them all the same...
unless I plan on having sex with them and then I'll treat them like a
plastic fuck doll



I support their rights too, they can call themselves whatever they want.

If some white guy turned himself black and wanted to be called African-American I'd have no problem, but to me he'd be a white guy who turned himself black.





which is why I support your right to have your own opinions. someone wants to
hate on a certain color of people, transgenders, gays, all of mankind, that's
their personal views as well and it's a part of who they are, it's their right,
(except for places like canada and the pub) to express their unpopular,
politically incorrect views... the best part of free speech is that while one
person has the right to express their views of hate, I have the right to ignore
them or to express my own views to ridicule them




I get the feeling you just tried to imply I hate transgender people. :lol:


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22398728 - 10/18/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're right.  We should take care of it.  If someone's body is causing them immense mental harm, shouldn't the person have proper treatment to make them healthy mentally?  Isn't mental health just as important as physical health?

Right now, we don't know how the brain works.  The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.


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    #22398737 - 10/18/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If we are living spirit, then isn't the body only a vessel and therefore what we do with it is not that important?



Yes, the body is a vessel. Calling it only a vessel tends to diminish the value of the gift we have been given imo. You can have your own opinion based on what you see the implications to be. I see the body as a special gift which we should take good care of.





what gift were these people given?



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    #22399149 - 10/18/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pris, if I were to be cuckolded, I would want my wife to fuck you.

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    #22399309 - 10/18/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You're right.  We should take care of it.  If someone's body is causing them immense mental harm, shouldn't the person have proper treatment to make them healthy mentally?  Isn't mental health just as important as physical health?

Right now, we don't know how the brain works.  The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.



There are a lot of studies that show gay people are the unhappiest group out there. They have shallow empty sex lives and high suicide and disease rates. A monogamous relationship is the most fulfilling mentally and spiritually. And gay people can have that, but its pretty rare for them. And its a shame.

Transgender folks don't strike me as the happiest campers either. Its too bad. Their lives are valuable and have the potential to be meaningful, but they seem not to find the fulfillment they're after. Straight people in committed monogamous relationships are always the happies and most stable group of folks out there.


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    #22399324 - 10/18/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Holy Christmas, you are misinformed.


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    #22399352 - 10/18/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?



OK. I consider it vandalism against God's creation. We are formed from the dust of the Earth male and female and into us is breathed the breath of life. We are living spirit, the temple of the holy spirit, and vandalising the temple which we are is more than repugnant, it is revolting to me, a sort of instinctual disgust.



Well, I respect your view. However, I did not do any vandalize my body at all unless you count tattoos. I simply feel like a girl and prefer to keep my appearance closer to that of a girl's. Just because I cut my hair and wear clothes that my gender doesn't usually wear doesn't mean I am spitting on "God's" creation. I don't think your God took clothing and hairstyles into consideration when he created genders, I think he just differentiated them with organs, chemicals, and chromosomes. If he saw me, he would say I was a boy.
Do you consider tattoos a "vandalization" of God's property too? Haircuts? Makeup? Like I said, I respect your view, but I don't even consider sex changes as some crazy unholy act. It's simply a dude who wants to look more like a girl. Any god that would be displeased with his creations becoming happier and more comfortable is not a god that I want to look up to.
UPDATE: You still haven't explained how being transgender is a vandalization of the body.



Yes, I do find tattoos repugnant as well. I don't know about haircuts and makeup. I think a lot of women really go too far with makeup and plastic surgery, and it takes away from their natural beauty. There was a supreme court justice who spoke about pornography, that he doesn't know quite how to define it but he knows it when he sees it. And thats the way I feel about vandalism of the body. Certainly cleanliness and a little makeup seems to accentuate the natural charms, but beyond a certain level imo it detracts from them.

About how transexualism is a vandalism of the body, I mean the hormone treatments, boob jobs, and genital mutilation. You personally soud like a cross dresser rather than a transexual. In your case I don't think I understand the difference between a cross dressing fetish and transexualism. But anyway, I wish you all the luck and happiness in the world.


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    #22399640 - 10/18/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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...I don't think your God took clothing and hairstyles into consideration when he created genders,...




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God detests anyone who cross-dresses.

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5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.



1 Corinthians 11:5-6

Also, it seems almost like women are expected to wear a hijab-type head covering when they pray -- and having their hair cut off is a disgrace.
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13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.



1 Corinthians 11:13-16

And if a man grows his hair out long it is a disgrace as well -- too bad he hadn't been born a woman, for whom long hair is glorious. :lol:

(all passages pulled off of https://www.biblegateway.com )

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    #22400384 - 10/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Transexual does not mean that you got surgery and is not a fetish. It means that you feel like the opposite gender. It sounds like it's dumb, bt when I picture myself doing things and just existing, I can't see myself as a boy. I feel like a girl and dressing like a boy feels extremely unnatural and uncomfortable, just like if you were to put on a dress. I feel like I look ugly in guys clothes even though I'm sure I look much uglier in woman's clothes. With all due respect, the word of "God" means less to me than scribbles on bathrooms walls. I believe that living your life uncomfortably and miserably is a much more extreme misuse of the body and life than getting shit put into your breasts. If god gifted a female with a male body, well, fuck him. They didn't ask for that gift and should be able to do whatever they want with it instead of living like a slave to something that doesn't exist.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Near Dylan]
    #22400431 - 10/18/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've met a hot FTM who shined shoes at the Eagle in NYC (we're talking super emasculate leather club)....... Remarkably hot..... I dunno, gimme enough amps and I'd be down for it :lol:


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    #22400461 - 10/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You're right.  We should take care of it.  If someone's body is causing them immense mental harm, shouldn't the person have proper treatment to make them healthy mentally?  Isn't mental health just as important as physical health?

Right now, we don't know how the brain works.  The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.



There are a lot of studies that show gay people are the unhappiest group out there. They have shallow empty sex lives and high suicide and disease rates. A monogamous relationship is the most fulfilling mentally and spiritually. And gay people can have that, but its pretty rare for them. And its a shame.






You don't know many gay people do you? Because most of the gay people I know, myself included, are happily settled in monogamous relationships. Several of them legally married since the laws that prohibited it were overturned earlier this year.

The high suicide rate has decreased significantly in the last few decades thanks to awareness and acceptance in communities and among families. Meaning the suicide rate was high because of intolerant assholes being intolerant assholes not because a gay lifestyle itself is any less enjoyable than a straight one.

The disease rates have also seen a significant decrease thanks to education and awareness (there are arguments, also, that the previous estimates of STDs among gay men were exaggerated but I'm not going to bother getting much into that.)



Ellis, I know you don't know me, but I've always kind of liked you for some reason, so please understand that I mean no offense when I say you sound like you have had almost all of your beliefs (in this thread) founded upon christian propaganda.


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    #22400647 - 10/18/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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