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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22388625 - 10/16/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Even if this is true the compassionate thing is to play along and pretend they are what they want to be, don't you think?
Pointing that out is just hurtful to them and changes nothing.
Playing into the delusional thinking of crazy people does not help them. And allowing them to begin destroying normal society by mandating that the words mother and father are hate speech because its hurtful to their mental illness is symptomatic of a society that is itself mentally ill.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#22388638 - 10/16/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They aren't crazy but your second sentence certainly makes me think you might be. Who the fuck do you hang out with?
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388650 - 10/16/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: They aren't crazy but your second sentence certainly makes me think you might be. Who the fuck do you hang out with?
Transgenders are pushing for words like he. she, mother, and father to be replaced. It has gone so far as to claim the words mother and father are hate speech. Oh, and unisex bathrooms too. Its all getting totally messed up.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22388670 - 10/16/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't seen that. If they are they are limited to a very few nutcases.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388692 - 10/16/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species
How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.
At the center of every extended family is a nuclear family.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388742 - 10/16/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its being pushed hard for adoption in California. They are going to begin forcing it on the children in public schools. Children will grow up thinking its normal. Its the next step in political correctness.
And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/
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The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that the law takes effect on Thursday with the aim of accommodating transgender and gender non-conforming people
The freakazoids are well organized and are well funded by liberals who have a powerful hatred for America. They want to destroy everything good and decent. Just wait, the next step is they'll try to normalize pedophilia, they really will. Thats how bad they are.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#22388772 - 10/16/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/
No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22388788 - 10/16/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: Its being pushed hard for adoption in California. They are going to begin forcing it on the children in public schools. Children will grow up thinking its normal. Its the next step in political correctness.
And check out this new law, an unfunded mandate on business with public toilets to add a gender neutral bathroom. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/14/gender-neutral-single-stall-bathrooms-required-in-california-city/
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The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that the law takes effect on Thursday with the aim of accommodating transgender and gender non-conforming people
The freakazoids are well organized and are well funded by liberals who have a powerful hatred for America. They want to destroy everything good and decent. Just wait, the next step is they'll try to normalize pedophilia, they really will. Thats how bad they are.
Aside from the fact that California is the land of fruits and nuts I was more referring to the issue of certain nutjobs objecting to the word mother and father. That I had not heard of.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22388832 - 10/16/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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To be specific I think I saw that on drudge report or breitbart a while ago. I don't have a link handy.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22388852 - 10/16/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh I have absolutely no doubt that there is a handful of nitwits crying for that. I just don't think it is much more than a handful.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22392890 - 10/17/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It always starts with a handful of sensitive cry babies. Then before you know it you're in sensitivity training for saying the words "merry christmas" instead of "happy holidays" because you forgot to be inclusive.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22392930 - 10/17/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your sig makes me so mad. Why do we allow those creatures live at all, and I mean tigers, not gender confuse people.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: specialpeopleclub] 1
#22393067 - 10/17/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.
Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom. The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing. I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room. I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into. When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] 1
#22393098 - 10/17/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.
Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom. The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing. I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room. I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into. When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.
There have already been incidents of male perverts taping women peeing in these trannie bathrooms. Do you want to be taped naked on the can? The perverts are in charge now. They already took over in California.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#22393142 - 10/17/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Women have been taped using the can since video cameras could be snuck into cans. This isn't a new thing. I've used public restrooms before and accept that this may happen. Looking back, I'd be surprised if it hasn't already happened to me in 34 years of using public restrooms. I'm not saying that it's right by any means, but it's going to happen.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] 1
#22393628 - 10/17/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.
Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom. The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing. I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room. I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into. When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.
As politely as possible, you are fortunate your encounters include you being identified as a woman while going into the men's room.
By contrast, women who even look like men are apparently harassed just as a trans might be, for being in the women's room;
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When Cortney Bogorad heard a Fishbone's Rhythm Kitchen Cafe security guard shout repeatedly into the women's restroom for the man inside to come out, she wondered what the commotion was about.
Bogorad, who described the incident to the Free Press last week, said she was floored when she realized the guard's demands were aimed at her.
"It was absolutely insane to me," Bogorad said. "I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe they wouldn't believe me when I said I was a girl or that they wouldn't look at my ID."
Bogorad said the situation quickly escalated after the guard rebuffed her numerous attempts to show ID to prove she was indeed a woman.
She claims the man slammed her into the restroom wall, grabbed her by her hooded sweater and bra, carried her through the restaurant and threw her on the ground outside.
 http://www.freep.com/story/news/2015/06/22/fishbones-woman-speaks/71243408/
Stories about trans individuals in the women's room having security or police called on them happens as well; however, this incident was particularly interesting because she was apparently (for whatever it is actually worth) biologically female from birth, in the women's bathroom, and forcefully ejected simply because someone decided she looks like a man.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Tantrika] 2
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I'd just like to say that I honestly hate having anyone in the same room as I am while I pee. Male, female, transgender, intersex, asexual, whatever. It's fucking awkward to me knowing that I am disposing of bodily waste while all anyone has to do is bend down and see my lady bits doing unlady things.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22396441 - 10/18/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: No, that doesn't say anything about requiring businesses to add single stall bathrooms. It says that existing ones can't be restricted to one sex. That's better for everyone anyway IMO, they are only used by one person at a time anyway, so why not use whichever one's free? Restricting them to one sex serves no purpose.
Honestly, I don't give a shit who uses what bathroom. The least of my concerns when I need to pee is what everyone else is doing. I've used the men's room a few times myself because there's always a line in the ladies room. I go to gay bars and everyone just uses whatever bathroom they stumble into. When the whiskey kicks in, you have to go.
There have already been incidents of male perverts taping women peeing in these trannie bathrooms. Do you want to be taped naked on the can? The perverts are in charge now. They already took over in California.
I thought you got used to it seeing your government does it everyday
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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10] 1
#22396479 - 10/18/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rocket said: Oh I'm familiar with OED's definition, Blankk.
I didn't want to be too hard on Webster10, so I showed the origin of the word dysphoria. It is from Greek and means 'hard to bear'.
Be honest, you thought the origin was the defintion.
definitions and facts, medical and lingual, change all the time.
you have no idea wtf you are talking about. "you thought the origin was the definition LOL"
if the origin isn't a part of the definition then how the fuck did the definition come to be? out of thin fucking air? you? did you make the definition we all use?
this is the new grammar nazi - definition hawks. "oh bro you aren't using one of the 10 definitions for that word properly yo!"
yeah, well, i'll stand by my own definition, is that asking too much? you can't understand what can be explained to you, something that a child could understand?
DYSPHORIA: a STATE OF UNEASE.
STATE...not feeling...STATE. Zappa used the word fine to describe someone's physiological hormonal state, as in, there can be a dysphoria from someone's general chemical makeup at the time, ie if someone takes MDMA and an MAOI, they get Serotonin storm...this is a dysphoria, which can make one dysphoric.
it is a pathology. not simply a "feeling".
PS: definitions of words can be amended to with new interpretation.
words do not come pre-fabricated, we invent them; they didn't come out of the box predetermined to convey meaning.
we gave words their meaning and definitions, based on their usage. USAGE defines the meaning of the word...the words do not come ontologically prepped with significance to be defined and then separated by it's usage; usage first, then definition.
hence definitionally, definition can change, just like it always has been.
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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
#22396482 - 10/18/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: You should just spam some more graemlins. Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.
then how do you explain Chimerism?
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