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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387032 - 10/16/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome video, I may watch the rest of the hedwig and the angry inch songs on youtube.
Never heard of it before :thumbup:

I think we should embrace and support identity diversity and the ability to live the identity you truly want to be.

There is just no reason to be opposed to this. I do feel sympathy for the hard road that Transgender people often have to walk, but thats all the more reason to support them and not make it even harder.

A great documentary: Growing up Trans. Very fascinating watch for me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/growing-up-trans/


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22387054 - 10/16/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If you're interested in Hedwig & the Angry Inch I recommend you watch the movie!


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387061 - 10/16/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The shitty part about Hedwig I didn't like was at the end you learned Hedwig regretted becoming a female and the movie was more about overcoming the biggest regret ever, and more about being comfortable in your own skin, even if you fucked your skin up. I don't consider the movie painting trans in a bad light, but it was def. not a positive light imo, either.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Apollyphelion] * 1
    #22387070 - 10/16/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it was a mixed signal but still I think a good movie.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22387072 - 10/16/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As I understand it the problem was the transition surgery was botched, so she wasn't able to become a woman or go back to being a man.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387075 - 10/16/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I gave it like a 6.5-7
It was good, above average for sure
I its in the category if really really really liked it
one really shy of loving it.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22387151 - 10/16/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Apollyphelion said:
I gave it like a 6.5-7
It was good, above average for sure
I its in the category if really really really liked it
one really shy of loving it.




I'll give you fuckers another chance to watch what I labled a sit-com on the first page.
I've since learned the correct lable is rom-com. Found it on the tube this time>



I'd put this in the category of, made me smile.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387815 - 10/16/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
If reality had conservative bias the big bang wouldnt have happened, galaxies wouldnt have formed and we'd still be in the pre-cambrian era of evolution.

Mother nature LOVES new things and lets them completely turn the status quo upside down if they are viable.

In a world where the past consistently was less advanced than the present and the present less advanced than the future, conservatism is a resistance to the flow of things.

Completely contrary to mother nature it favors the old over the young.



Well that is one of your more deranged set pieces.  What conservatism are you talking about?  Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species  or fiscal conservatism which is 100% rooted in the science of human behavior?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22387978 - 10/16/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Things that seem abnormal often make people uncomfortable. Should they lie and say that it doesn't?


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22388029 - 10/16/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Well that is one of your more deranged set pieces.  What conservatism are you talking about?  Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species  or fiscal conservatism which is 100% rooted in the science of human behavior?




:ohyou:
Come on now, Zappa, that is like, only 50% or so right.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22388039 - 10/16/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species 




How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22388116 - 10/16/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
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Srirachi said:

No, I gave you that bad rating BEFORE you told me to fuck off, because you're an awful poster.




:lol:

I called you out on your "reality has a conservative bias" bullshit, and you got butthurt. That is what happened.







Then I am a gifted psychic who through foreknowledge of your plans to "call me out on my conservative bullshit" became butthurt and rated you nearly 2 hours in advance of your ever so hurtful comments.



You'll note that your feedback has not been edited... My opinion is based on your post history, not on your goofy rejoinder.

Normally I won't invest this sort of time into a pointless endeavor, but it's really funny to me that you'd expect anyone to take your opinions seriously any more, when you obviously jump to conclusions and stand on them as if it is irrefutable fact. :lol:


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22388119 - 10/16/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I feel like we're mucking it up a bit here, let's backpedal:

You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.

Some may be fucked in the head, sure. So help them. Don't be a huge dick about it, they've got enough issues in that area as it is! ;)

Nobody is hurting you, but plenty of people are hurting them,out of pure malice. Trans people have been murdered because they are trans. Try to imagine that.

So why can't we all just get along?

Edit: @Sitachi: smooches! xoxoxo
Whatever man.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22388276 - 10/16/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Turtletotem said:

You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.



A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22388290 - 10/16/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:

Nobody is hurting you, but plenty of people are hurting them,out of pure malice. Trans people have been murdered because they are trans. Try to imagine that.



This deserves its own reply. All the trans who are victims of violence are prostitutes or sex trade workers who do not reveal their sex to their John. Also there have been cases where a trans dated a heterosexual without revealing his true sex. Tricking someone into involuntarily performing homosexual acts has lead many a trans to a sort of instant justice. If they were honest and disclosed what they were those incidents would have never happened.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 2
    #22388298 - 10/16/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

theres so much more to a person than what your sayin


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #22388306 - 10/16/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nature challenges transgender people, just like all other people are challenged in their own ways.

I'm challenged with homosexuality and a tendency to obesity.




Can you grow a good beard? Furry? You could be a hot bear w/ a huge audience of potential lovers. Just sayin'


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22388337 - 10/16/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:

A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.




So?


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22388354 - 10/16/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Social conservatism that has fostered the concept of the nuclear family which has been pretty essential to the survival of the human species 




How do you figure? I have many Asian neighbors who live in extended families and most of them seem much more successful than the nuclear families. Nicer houses, nicer cars, higher rate of college education.




At the center of every extended family is a nuclear family.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22388579 - 10/16/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Ellis Dee said:
Quote:

Turtletotem said:

You guys who are against this sort of thing... why?
Why do you have to be like that?
If you have read multiple threads on this issue, and saw my posts, you'd see I more or less agree with you!
Insofar as a rose by anyother name once had a penis. I agree!
But you'd be doing these people a huge solid if you could just accept, or at least tolerate them.



A man with XY chromosomes who has a penis is a man. Having it mutilated and turned inside out does not make it a vagina. It is still a penis, but a badly mutilated one.

Jeremiah 13:23King James Version (KJV) 23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

A leopard always has its spots. An Ethiopian is always black. No matter how bad a man wants to be a woman he will always be a man. Severely mentally ill people like Caitlin Jenner are still men. Biologically he is what he is, a man, albeit a severely deformed and mutilated man.




Even if this is true the compassionate thing is to play along and pretend they are what they want to be, don't you think?

Pointing that out is just hurtful to them and changes nothing.


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