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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
    #22383384 - 10/15/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Did Rocket just actually say that transgendered people are defective?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22383566 - 10/15/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Zap in a very typical move refuses to admit he used the word poorly even when its defined for him.

"a state of unease or generalized dissatisfaction with life."

You could say the mix of hormones later in life could lead to dysphoria with ones sex, if that is what you meant. But the phrasing you used is so clumsy as to be almost unintelligible.

>Do you deny that their genetics led to the dysphoria of when and what hormones were released during fetal brain development?


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Webster10]
    #22383719 - 10/15/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
You should just spam some more graemlins.  Chromosome disorders aside, someone with XX chromosomes can never be a man and someone with XY chromosomes can never be a woman. Anyone who believes otherwise is a denier of genetics.



Their genetics caused an illtimed and atypical flood of hormones during development.

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How does the MtF Transsexual?

Like the normal male embryo, the male to female Transsexual brain starts out female. Then between the 8th and 24th weeks, the ‘XY’ chromosomes introduce testosterone hormonal changes, but the hormonal washes as faulty. They are either insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body. However, some of the default (original) female brain processes remain intact. Thus, the brain’s gender identity remain intact. Thus, the brains gender identity remains female. This means that Transsexual males whose process of brain masculinization was incomplete, Their default female brains still function. The degree of arrested development can vary. The orgininal brain circuitry that was missed in the masculinizing process provides a continuing feminine influence. This explains why many Transsexuals, biological males know, from as early as 3 years old, that they are actually members of the opposite sex.




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What is the job of the ‘XX’ and ‘XY’ chromosomes?

It seems that one of the jobs of the ‘XX’ and ‘XY’ chromosomes is to govern the introduction of testosterone into the womb. However, chromosomal influence is limited by the many glitches that can happen during the fetal growth process. This is why each human being possesses a unique mixture of male and female traits. Some of these mixes (eg: Transsexualism) make the individuals who have them significantly different from society’s expectations. This causes these people much confusion and suffering. Indeed, there are, in our world, many males who have ‘XX’ chromosomes and many females who have ‘XY’ chromosomes.




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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22383747 - 10/15/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

got bitchssnubbed :snub:


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Tripsurfer] * 3
    #22383753 - 10/15/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

See.  She's obviously a woman.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22383763 - 10/15/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And a bit of a cunt at that


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #22383777 - 10/15/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, a bit.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #22383962 - 10/15/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tripsurfer said:
At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

got bitchssnubbed :snub:



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Tripsurfer said:
At the place where I work there is a guy halfway through his transformation to becoming a women

First time I was walking by him/her I wanted to act like I didn't think it weird and said goodmorning....

got bitchssnubbed :snub:




Maybe if you'd slapped her arse, winked and said alright darlin' she would have felt more accepted.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22384030 - 10/15/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm not going to let opinions get in the way of their personal pursuit of happiness.

It obviously fulfills a need in them and as long as they do so in a responsible way, they have my support.

This thread is about saying NO to transphobia and acknowledges their need to be that way, regardless of what one thinks about the undelying realityies of the situation.

Who are we to obstruct another from being who they feel they need to be if being that harms no one?

Can I get an aye?

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You betcha I support the trans community, I volunteer at a LGBTQ center every week.


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Re: I sport the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22384125 - 10/15/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, that's... there's a center? What is it all about exactly? Are there brochures and stuff?


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Re: I sport the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22384145 - 10/15/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Srirachi said:
Wow, that's... there's a center? What is it all about exactly? Are there brochures and stuff?




Basically the space is rented for all sorts of meetings, you know it can be a space for elderly gays to meet, or trans community meetups, or parents and families, gay disabled, gay sports teams heh,  there are myriads of activities that occur at the center, art galleries, there's a library... Troubled gay youth may come for resources, runaways etc.....  We're the only center between S.F and Vancouver..... Seattle doesn't have one, kind of sad.

Yanno, here in Oregon insurance will pay for gender reassignment surgery, but there are a lot of bullshit hoops to jump through, same as our death by dignity laws.. Seems progressive but the amount of people who actually get to take advantage of this shit is not impressive.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Sade]
    #22385534 - 10/15/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Sade said:
My gf is preop transgender female. Probably the best girlfriend I have had so far. Sex is pretty amazing too.




Mine was the same I did have a trouble keeping a boner while she grabbed lube. I tried it but It's not really for me. I like women. But when things were good they were great. I still listen to a pandora station she showed me. She had great tastes in music, movies, anime. We played through borderlands 2 together. I never felt uncomfortable with her except when she started being an abusive bitch.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22385620 - 10/15/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not to downplay their want for equal treatment - that should be a given - it's surprising how big of a deal the issue is with trans people, when they're an estimated .1-.3% of the population.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: twighead]
    #22385638 - 10/15/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They're a very vocal minority


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22386006 - 10/15/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Asante, I :heart: you! :*-) :hug:



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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Srirachi]
    #22386922 - 10/16/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Srirachi said:


No, I gave you that bad rating BEFORE you told me to fuck off, because you're an awful poster. Your responses show that you lack the emotional maturity to engage in a conversation with someone who has a different opinion than you do. If you don't like what you hear, you resort to ad hominem attacks and launch into a disjointed tirade about how people are dying as if to imply that everyone URGENTLY needs to accept your point of view.




:lol:

I called you out on your "reality has a conservative bias" bullshit, and you got butthurt. That is what happened.

Liberals say the same thing, only that it has a liberal bias.
Both parties always say it like it's general knowledge, weird isn't it?



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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22386961 - 10/16/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If reality had conservative bias the big bang wouldnt have happened, galaxies wouldnt have formed and we'd still be in the pre-cambrian era of evolution.

Mother nature LOVES new things and lets them completely turn the status quo upside down if they are viable.

In a world where the past consistently was less advanced than the present and the present less advanced than the future, conservatism is a resistance to the flow of things.

Completely contrary to mother nature it favors the old over the young.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Asante]
    #22386965 - 10/16/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nature betrays transgender people by assigning them the wrong gender, though. What a cunt.


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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22386968 - 10/16/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nature challenges transgender people, just like all other people are challenged in their own ways.

I'm challenged with homosexuality and a tendency to obesity.


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Re: I support the right of Transgendered people to be who they need to be, including on this website. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #22386976 - 10/16/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
To me and a lot of other people they'll always be whatever gender they were naturally born with.




Yeah but that's only cause of social programming :shrug: Education is the cure to ignorance


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