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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22398690 - 10/18/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everlong said: I don't care what people do with their bodies, but if someone switches their sex I'm still going to think of them as a transgender person. I'm not going to think of a man who becomes a woman as a true female. 
I support the rights of individuals, I dont give a shit if someone is gay, straight, transgender or trans species, I'll treat them all the same... unless I plan on having sex with them and then I'll treat them like a plastic fuck doll
I support their rights too, they can call themselves whatever they want.
If some white guy turned himself black and wanted to be called African-American I'd have no problem, but to me he'd be a white guy who turned himself black.
which is why I support your right to have your own opinions. someone wants to hate on a certain color of people, transgenders, gays, all of mankind, that's their personal views as well and it's a part of who they are, it's their right, (except for places like canada and the pub) to express their unpopular, politically incorrect views... the best part of free speech is that while one person has the right to express their views of hate, I have the right to ignore them or to express my own views to ridicule them
I get the feeling you just tried to imply I hate transgender people.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22398728 - 10/18/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're right. We should take care of it. If someone's body is causing them immense mental harm, shouldn't the person have proper treatment to make them healthy mentally? Isn't mental health just as important as physical health?
Right now, we don't know how the brain works. The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] 2
#22398737 - 10/18/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: If we are living spirit, then isn't the body only a vessel and therefore what we do with it is not that important?
Yes, the body is a vessel. Calling it only a vessel tends to diminish the value of the gift we have been given imo. You can have your own opinion based on what you see the implications to be. I see the body as a special gift which we should take good care of.
what gift were these people given?
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22399149 - 10/18/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pris, if I were to be cuckolded, I would want my wife to fuck you.
You're awesome.
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Ellis Dee
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] 1
#22399309 - 10/18/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: You're right. We should take care of it. If someone's body is causing them immense mental harm, shouldn't the person have proper treatment to make them healthy mentally? Isn't mental health just as important as physical health?
Right now, we don't know how the brain works. The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.
There are a lot of studies that show gay people are the unhappiest group out there. They have shallow empty sex lives and high suicide and disease rates. A monogamous relationship is the most fulfilling mentally and spiritually. And gay people can have that, but its pretty rare for them. And its a shame.
Transgender folks don't strike me as the happiest campers either. Its too bad. Their lives are valuable and have the potential to be meaningful, but they seem not to find the fulfillment they're after. Straight people in committed monogamous relationships are always the happies and most stable group of folks out there.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22399324 - 10/18/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy Christmas, you are misinformed.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Near Dylan]
#22399352 - 10/18/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: I don't quite understand the reasoning behind your distaste for transgenders. Elaborate?
OK. I consider it vandalism against God's creation. We are formed from the dust of the Earth male and female and into us is breathed the breath of life. We are living spirit, the temple of the holy spirit, and vandalising the temple which we are is more than repugnant, it is revolting to me, a sort of instinctual disgust.
Well, I respect your view. However, I did not do any vandalize my body at all unless you count tattoos. I simply feel like a girl and prefer to keep my appearance closer to that of a girl's. Just because I cut my hair and wear clothes that my gender doesn't usually wear doesn't mean I am spitting on "God's" creation. I don't think your God took clothing and hairstyles into consideration when he created genders, I think he just differentiated them with organs, chemicals, and chromosomes. If he saw me, he would say I was a boy. Do you consider tattoos a "vandalization" of God's property too? Haircuts? Makeup? Like I said, I respect your view, but I don't even consider sex changes as some crazy unholy act. It's simply a dude who wants to look more like a girl. Any god that would be displeased with his creations becoming happier and more comfortable is not a god that I want to look up to. UPDATE: You still haven't explained how being transgender is a vandalization of the body.
Yes, I do find tattoos repugnant as well. I don't know about haircuts and makeup. I think a lot of women really go too far with makeup and plastic surgery, and it takes away from their natural beauty. There was a supreme court justice who spoke about pornography, that he doesn't know quite how to define it but he knows it when he sees it. And thats the way I feel about vandalism of the body. Certainly cleanliness and a little makeup seems to accentuate the natural charms, but beyond a certain level imo it detracts from them.
About how transexualism is a vandalism of the body, I mean the hormone treatments, boob jobs, and genital mutilation. You personally soud like a cross dresser rather than a transexual. In your case I don't think I understand the difference between a cross dressing fetish and transexualism. But anyway, I wish you all the luck and happiness in the world.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#22399640 - 10/18/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.
-- Deuteronomy 22:5 God detests anyone who cross-dresses.
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5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
1 Corinthians 11:5-6
Also, it seems almost like women are expected to wear a hijab-type head covering when they pray -- and having their hair cut off is a disgrace.

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13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.
1 Corinthians 11:13-16
And if a man grows his hair out long it is a disgrace as well -- too bad he hadn't been born a woman, for whom long hair is glorious. 
(all passages pulled off of https://www.biblegateway.com )
There could be more -- it's a big book of rules interpreted pretty much on a reader to reader basis.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22400384 - 10/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Transexual does not mean that you got surgery and is not a fetish. It means that you feel like the opposite gender. It sounds like it's dumb, bt when I picture myself doing things and just existing, I can't see myself as a boy. I feel like a girl and dressing like a boy feels extremely unnatural and uncomfortable, just like if you were to put on a dress. I feel like I look ugly in guys clothes even though I'm sure I look much uglier in woman's clothes. With all due respect, the word of "God" means less to me than scribbles on bathrooms walls. I believe that living your life uncomfortably and miserably is a much more extreme misuse of the body and life than getting shit put into your breasts. If god gifted a female with a male body, well, fuck him. They didn't ask for that gift and should be able to do whatever they want with it instead of living like a slave to something that doesn't exist.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Near Dylan]
#22400431 - 10/18/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've met a hot FTM who shined shoes at the Eagle in NYC (we're talking super emasculate leather club)....... Remarkably hot..... I dunno, gimme enough amps and I'd be down for it
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Ellis Dee] 2
#22400461 - 10/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right now, we don't know how the brain works. The best course of treatment we have is to change the body to match the mind.
There are a lot of studies that show gay people are the unhappiest group out there. They have shallow empty sex lives and high suicide and disease rates. A monogamous relationship is the most fulfilling mentally and spiritually. And gay people can have that, but its pretty rare for them. And its a shame.
You don't know many gay people do you? Because most of the gay people I know, myself included, are happily settled in monogamous relationships. Several of them legally married since the laws that prohibited it were overturned earlier this year.
The high suicide rate has decreased significantly in the last few decades thanks to awareness and acceptance in communities and among families. Meaning the suicide rate was high because of intolerant assholes being intolerant assholes not because a gay lifestyle itself is any less enjoyable than a straight one.
The disease rates have also seen a significant decrease thanks to education and awareness (there are arguments, also, that the previous estimates of STDs among gay men were exaggerated but I'm not going to bother getting much into that.)
Ellis, I know you don't know me, but I've always kind of liked you for some reason, so please understand that I mean no offense when I say you sound like you have had almost all of your beliefs (in this thread) founded upon christian propaganda.
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#22400475 - 10/18/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: I sport the right Transgendered people be who they be, including on this website. [Re: Near Dylan]
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