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technotree
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Inocuole]
#22376429 - 10/13/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay. So I'll leave those two cakes in that chamber until we can move them to a SGFC tomorrow. Should I mist the cakes and THEN sprinkle the vermiculite? Or should I legitimately dunk them for like 14 hours and then sprinkle the verm?
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376432 - 10/13/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could just give em a real quick dunk. Grab them with a gloved hand, dunk them in some tap water for a second so that they're wet, and then sprinkle the verm on. It'll be better than a mist and your pins will be pretty likely to survive it. You could just mist though if you're more comfortable doing that.
I think there's something to the dunk though where it softens up the mycelium and it sticks to the verm a little better, but that could be my imagination.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Inocuole]
#22376442 - 10/13/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have dunked pins before as well. Its a risk but if they stay on the cake they benefit from it for sure. Its up to you techno, what you are comfortable with is what you should do. Like I said its only two cakes so its not like your gains or losses at this point are going to be really significant.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22376446 - 10/13/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I'm assuming that if I sprinkle verm on it and we move the two cakes to a SGFC, the yield will be a touch higher, and probably much quicker, right?
My dad wants me to ask what grade vermiculite we should use to "roll" it in. We have heavy and fine grade. I predict fine grade.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376457 - 10/13/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fine will stick better to the cakes. Heavy grade verm is not really good for cakes but is excellent for bulk substrates. So hold onto it. Few people who get the bug for this hobby stick with cakes for long.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376465 - 10/13/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Between those two, fine. I like a nice medium personally for anything casing related, and that's what the roll is, is a casing layer for the cake. Depends on how coarse the other is... eehhhh defer to pasty.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22376469 - 10/13/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome! 4 of the jars that are nearing full colonization have substrate with only heavy grade, but it seems to be working just fine. The other four are half and half (heavy and fine). There are two Amazonian still colonizing that are just fine grade and then 8 more new jars that are half and half with Tasmania.
My dad ALSO wants me to ask where is the best place to pick up medium grade? sorry for all the q's. he's very intent i ask all of this... lol
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Inocuole]
#22376474 - 10/13/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I agree with ya inoc, med is better for a roll if ya have it on hand. Tho I usually just buy a 110 quart bag and that always is a mix of grades with the fine shit all at the bottom
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376482 - 10/13/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh, and I'll be posting pictures of any progress made tomorrow - hope you guys will be around to see if it seems like improvement. I'll also take pictures of the jars that are colonizing right now and track their progress. I've definitely got a little passion for this going - and I WAS on the new school method's side, but didn't really have the right to do anything I wasn't told to do. Thanks to you guys now, Dad's on board with the SGFC & dunk and roll methods. Probably gonna see a complete 180.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree] 1
#22376489 - 10/13/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good attitude. You will go far
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376491 - 10/13/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALSO - what would happen if we were to leave the lid off overnight? We just turned the lights off for the night - we'll turn them back on at noon tomorrow.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22376493 - 10/13/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was just thinking the overall best to have on hand would be a mix of grades. I don't know where to get medium grade but the internet usually does. I can only find fine grade and it works for things I need, and it's not super fine like some people's who claim it comes out like dust.
I think we're all here every day for the most part. That's kinda weird now that I think on it.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22376504 - 10/13/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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technotree said: ALSO - what would happen if we were to leave the lid off overnight?
Could dry out. Best not to do that yet.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22376512 - 10/13/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, what if we were to crack it or just leave the lid off for maybe 10 minutes at a time every hour until we go to sleep tonight (probably 3 or 4 AM)? Honestly, we probably could go ahead and mist them and put some fine grade vermiculite on them tonight - would you guys recommend that?
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22381229 - 10/14/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey! Update time! Lots of pics to go around, also, lots of progress to grow around.
lol
Anyway, very excited at we did today! We both had a doctor's appointment today, so we went and got the tubs afterwards. We ended up getting two Sterilite containers, 55qts each. The lid we got doesn't match exactly, as the container's lid that DID fit was white and I logically thought that a clear one would be better.
 here's the goodies in route
We also got two bags of perlite, although the only thing we have easy access to is Miracle Gro brand, which I read has some additives that are annoying to deal with. To fix this, we thoroughly rinsed all perlite in hot water, some of which was from an almost simmering pot. We eventually realized that was overkill, so we just dumped the perlite in the pot (which was rather large... could hold probably near a bag of the perlite) and added some hot tap water to counteract the supa-hawt water and drained it from the pot using our lid, as the only colander that we had was too porous to use without making a huge mess.
Anyway, my dad did the drilling and we decided on only doing 1 container tonight since we've only got two cakes to move over anyway.

After the perlite rinsing and hole drilling and tub sterilization with alcohol and then disinfectant, we took the container into our Shroom Room and put it on 4 empty jars.
But first, here's what we did to the cakes last night after the advice:
  
Okay, so here's the tub after we put the cakes in:


There's about 4.8 inches of damp perlite in the bottom of it. It's a 55 quart tub... I think I mentioned that already, lol. It's elevated on 4 jars on a piece of wood resting on a bed. There's a flourescent lamp about 8 inches from it that provides plenty of light into the container. The lighting schedule is on a 12/12 basis. We turn it off at midnight, and on at noon. We'll mist the cakes 3-6 times a day and fan directly after misting them.
MOVING ON!!
Here are 8 cakes that I have colonizing right now. Maybe a little more. I think there are 9. Anyway, the black specks that are in the jars are NOT contamination, but dried up solution from the spore syringe we used, which is a very trusted source that delivers the syringes in insulated packages and in a solution called "New Moon," which is resistant to contaminants up to 100%, as long as everything's done correctly in jar prep. These are mostly the Hawaiian strain. The two cakes that look fully cased are Amazonian. We're waiting for those to pin.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22381410 - 10/14/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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bump bump.... Did a pretty big thing today and am wanting some feedback. Sorry if there's a policy about double posting/bumping threads.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: technotree]
#22381431 - 10/14/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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4. Do not bump your own thread for at least 24 hours. It's not fair to the other posters to have your thread constantly bumped to the top. Violators will have their thread deleted.
Looks fine to me though. Didn't read everything, was there a question in particular?
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Inocuole]
#22381492 - 10/14/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't believe vendor hype. New moon syringes are no more or no less prone to contam than anything else. Many people believe that the dark solution is to hide the fact that the syringes are live culture rather than spores. Everything looks fine, personally i would just move the cakes closer together.
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: Inocuole]
#22381513 - 10/15/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It looks like you know what you're doing, and it's cool that your dad helps you. Do you trip with him? Oh, and by the way
"which is a very trusted source"
"a solution called "New Moon," which is resistant to contaminants up to 100%, as long as everything's done correctly in jar prep."
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Re: PIX FROM MY FIRST GROW! 8) [Re: newrook]
#22381665 - 10/15/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry if i'm a little... redundant or contradictory. i've taken in a lot of info in a little amount of time... that's my excuse anyway.
And yeah, totally! Definitely will be once we start to harvest. Live culture would make sense... when I looked in the solution of the Tasmania spore syringe... definitely seemed like culture floating around in there. But also seemed like lots and lots of spores too.... So not exactly sure. I'll have two more cakes to birth soon. I do have a question about that though - should I go through a certain procedure to help kickstart the pinning process in the jar? Or just let it happen organically until pins develop?
THX in advance!
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