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The D Debates Tonight
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Looks like the Democrats are having debates. Or let me correct myself--the party of old, angry white people is having a debate.
No diversity except one dumb bitch, no people of color, no youth just old burned out white socialists.
Oh, the irony.
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Hope and change?
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No....dope and mange.
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More BS from the dumbass democrats...
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I saw an article i think it was at nYT, 'Adults finally take the stage for debates'
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That's it! I'm voting for Hillary!
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Damn, talk about slogans, BS just used every one I've ever heard! What's he gonna talk about the rest of the time???
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How about a chicken in every pot?
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: How about a chicken in every pot?
LMFAO!
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Isn't it funny how everyone on the stage, probably even Anderson Cooper, would beat Trump in the general election?
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The Ecstatic said: Isn't it funny how everyone on the stage, probably even Anderson Cooper, would beat Trump in the general election?
You got a poll that supports that?
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Hillary just blamed Obama for Benghazi! And bernies's a draft dodger! What a fucking monkey show!
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The Ecstatic said: Isn't it funny how everyone on the stage, probably even Anderson Cooper, would beat Trump in the general election?
You got a poll that supports that?
I'm not sure if he knows how to post links
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In case you had better things to do, here is a summary of the debate.
1. Lincoln Chafee will drop out soon. He blamed a couple bad votes on his father's death and his recent appointment to office. I think he also suffered a temporary ischemic attack about halfway through. Dude was basically an extra in "Awakenings."
2. Jim Webb. Conservative Light. Repeatedly bitched about the lack of time he was given (which was a valid criticism) but then validated those calls by talking about his Vietnamese wife instead of the issues. I kinda like the guy but his positions don't mesh with the party's progressive/elitist stance.
3. Martin O'Malley. It was weird. He nailed the Clinton cadence and thumb-pointing thing. No big bombs but he didn't make much treadway, either. He struggled to portray his mayorship of Baltimore as a positive and didn't do much to distinguish himself from the Obama/Clinton machine.
4. Bernie Sanders. Well, dude owns who he is and what he says. He was responsible for the biggest applause lines of the night. But he made the SOCIALIST label completely indelible on him, proposing absurd entitlements and expenditures. We'll see. People like spending the money of others.
5. Hill-Dog. It doesn't really matter. Everyone thinks what they want about her. She flipped the fuck out of her flops on most every position. She also glued her ass to every Obama policy and preference. Oh, and if you didn't know, she would also be the first president with a vagina.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: Bloto]
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5. Yeah I noticed she also kept trying to make it about republicans, and not how she differentiates from the other candidates, I guess she figures it worked for Bill...
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She did address how she's different. Namely that she has a vagina.
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starfire_xes said: Looks like the Democrats are having debates. Or let me correct myself--the party of old, angry white people is having a debate.
No diversity except one dumb bitch, no people of color, no youth just old burned out white socialists.
Oh, the irony.
These debate are all rehearsed, they only choose those that what they want the public to focus on. The Democrats and the Repub's are one. They work in unity with each other to keep the focus off the candidate that are truly trying to help the country. It is funny that Jill Stein wasn't invited, but they had saved a spot for an person that is an democrat, hoping for that he will run for the presidency, but they did not hold a spot open for the green party.. I doesn't see why no one cannot see that these debates are scripted.
For the Green candidate, it was a lesson on the stranglehold she says the-two party system has on American politics. Without access to the debate, she was marginalized by the Democrats and Republicans, as well as mainstream broadcast media. And without the exposure that the debates brought, she had no chance of being elected. http://www.mintpressnews.com/breaking-duopoly-fight-third-party-debate-inclusion-pushes/197712/
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That farce last night pretty much guarantees Hillary the crown--unless Biden runs. Surely no one considers Bernie a serious candidate anymore since he more or less smooched up to Hillary.
one good thing--they all went super left, which doesn't win national elections in the US.
Even Hillary claimed she was a progressive. As if.
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starfire_xes said: That farce last night pretty much guarantees Hillary the crown--unless Biden runs. Surely no one considers Bernie a serious candidate anymore since he more or less smooched up to Hillary.
one good thing--they all went super left, which doesn't win national elections in the US.
Even Hillary claimed she was a progressive. As if. 
What a fucking puppetshow (D)
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A puppet show indeed. I don't agree hill is guaranteed the nomination, the server issues and her many other scandals are dogging her. The media should go into them more but doesn't, however her negatives are very high and while she may be polling higher than Bernie at the moment, she is not getting a majority of dem votes. Most of those who say they are not voting for her in the primary will not vote for her in the general either.
Hitlery's only chance to win is if she runs against trump and even then she will likely lose. She loses for certain if any charges are brought or even if some more bombshells drop. Trump has as many negatives as hitlery but they are all based on personality, take a look at zap for an example. If he acts right he could surge way higher by the general
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: Stonehenge]
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I would love to see Trump fuck up Hillary in a debate.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: qman]
#22377828 - 10/14/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: I would love to see Trump fuck up Hillary in a debate. 
Be careful what you ask for. The dirt on Trump doesn't really matter to his die hard supporters, but when you get to a general and all that dirt that's out there on him comes out, it will matter to a lot of independents and swing voters you have to get to win.
The Clintons will have a dump truck of stuff to unload on him and, for the most part, the dirt is already out on the Clintons.
It's depressing to me that the two front runners are Hillary and Trump.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: KauaiOrca]
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Oh golly does BS have a few million? I'm sure trump is shaking in his shoes. Shaking from laughter, he would like nothing better than to go against sanders.
Its a measure of how many brain dead loony leftists there are in the country that so many still support hitlery. A lifetime of propaganda takes its toll.
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So why should anyone support the other party?
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Hey, if I promise you a life of luxury and everything you ever wanted, will you vote for me? promises are cheap.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: Stonehenge]
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I remember people cried tears of joy when Obama was elected, now they cry tears of despair.
He promised the earth, sun and moon for all the disadvantaged, but all he did was make the rich even richer, thank you house negro Obama.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: Hey, if I promise you a life of luxury and everything you ever wanted, will you vote for me? promises are cheap.
You don't think Bernie wants to keep education costs down, social security payments reasonable, etc? He's sure been fighting for that.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: qman]
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qman said: I remember people cried tears of joy when Obama was elected, now they cry tears of despair.
He promised the earth, sun and moon for all the disadvantaged, but all he did was make the rich even richer, thank you house negro Obama. 
No, that's not all he did. He gave millions of people healthcare, he prevented a depression that would have occured without Government intervention, he saved the US auto industry... actually, you should just Google "Obama's Accomplishments" before saying something false.
I'll agree he didn't do some things right.
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qman said: I remember people cried tears of joy when Obama was elected, now they cry tears of despair.
He promised the earth, sun and moon for all the disadvantaged, but all he did was make the rich even richer, thank you house negro Obama. 
No, that's not all he did. He gave millions of people healthcare, he prevented a depression that would have occured without Government intervention, he saved the US auto industry... actually, you should just Google "Obama's Accomplishments" before saying something false.
I'll agree he didn't do some things right.
You're the last of the last Obama supporters left, they are left the accident scene a long time ago. 
He promised more income and wealth equality, he did the complete opposite, you must be so proud.
Just wait until he passes the most destructive trade (TPP) agreement of all-time, his supporters will be ecstatic.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: qman]
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You're the last of the last Obama supporters left, they are left the accident scene a long time ago. 
He promised more income and wealth equality, he did the complete opposite, you must be so proud.
Just wait until he passes the most destructive trade (TPP) agreement of all-time, his supporters will be ecstatic. 
Obama's just another Corporate President in a long line of Presidents that have pushed globalism, more debt, increased banking power, more money in politics and increased secrecy at all levels. We are likely to get another one in 2016.
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qman said: I remember people cried tears of joy when Obama was elected, now they cry tears of despair.
He promised the earth, sun and moon for all the disadvantaged, but all he did was make the rich even richer, thank you house negro Obama. 
No, that's not all he did. He gave millions of people healthcare, he prevented a depression that would have occured without Government intervention, he saved the US auto industry... actually, you should just Google "Obama's Accomplishments" before saying something false.
I'll agree he didn't do some things right.
That's laughable, he didn't "save" the US auto industry, he bailed out the unions of GM; ford, Mercedes USA and Toyota USA would have been just fine, I love it when folks say they don't support corporate welfare, but they support Obama, lol
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hostileuniverse said: More BS from the dumbass democrats...
At least they're not pushing the same old bullshit 'trickledown' economics program.
You people love to give all your money to the fat cats and the only thing that trickles down to you is when they piss on you.
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and you're against ALL of these?
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Stonehenge said: Hey, if I promise you a life of luxury and everything you ever wanted, will you vote for me? promises are cheap.
You don't think Bernie wants to keep education costs down, social security payments reasonable, etc? He's sure been fighting for that.
Hey, I'll fight the good fight to give you all those lavish promises too. i'll lose just like Bernie will but all that counts is the good intentions, right?
> He gave millions of people healthcare
He forced millions to give up the plans they had and to pay higher premiums, the opposite of what he promised.
> he prevented a depression that would have occured without Government intervention
He gave trillions to wall st and while the depression hasn't hit (yet) the economy is anemic and employment is a joke along with wages. If he had spent even half of that on infrastructure we desperately need, or invested it in things that would help us instead of blowing up the rest of the world for no reason, we would be booming. Your claim is hollow.
>I'll agree he didn't do some things right.
Oh "some things"?? it's mighty big of you to admit that much. He did nothing right, his high point is a couple things that were done half assed. The rest was a disaster. I'm waiting for you to blame our future promblems on bush somehow.
I can see it now "obumble may have added to the problems but they all started under bush" That is your next line of defense, isn't it?
sweep >At least they're not pushing the same old bullshit 'trickledown' economics program.
No, they are pushing the same old bullshit promises they never keep. Big difference.
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Re: The D Debates Tonight [Re: qman]
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qman said: You're the last of the last Obama supporters left, they are left the accident scene a long time ago. 
I'm not much of an Obama supporter; he's another in a long line of corporate cronies. His support of TPP only enforces that.
I defend him against lies such as "he didn't do anything", but that doesn't mean I'm a big fan.
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hostileuniverse said: he didn't "save" the US auto industry, he bailed out the unions of GM; ...I love it when folks say they don't support corporate welfare, but they support Obama, lol
I don't support Obama because he is corporate crony. But with GM (as you even pointed out) he sided with the union workers rather than the corporate owners.
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qman said: You're the last of the last Obama supporters left, they are left the accident scene a long time ago. 
I'm not much of an Obama supporter; he's another in a long line of corporate cronies. His support of TPP only enforces that.
I defend him against lies such as "he didn't do anything", but that doesn't mean I'm a big fan.
Yeah he did do something, unfortunately it was for the very rich and their corporate buddies.
I don't personally blame the man, he knew the deal when he signed up for the gig. We'll get more of the same in 2016.
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I still can't believe that none of the candidates openly explained their stance on tripping balls off of psychedelic mushrooms. What is this world coming to?
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