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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! * 1
    #22374218 - 10/13/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I lol @ the people who think the USA is the most free in the world. We are number 20.

Kind of sad for a nation that brags so much about freedom.

You can over view the findings here and download the PDF file -

http://www.freetheworld.com/humanFreedom.php



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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22374250 - 10/13/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22374483 - 10/13/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i don't think that list takes into consideration secret tapping into our personal information and other covert breaches of human rights


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: mindbodysoul] * 1
    #22374489 - 10/13/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

otherwise america would be one of the last ones there


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: mindbodysoul]
    #22374491 - 10/13/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so where on that god damned list is numero uno?

ridiculousness.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: mindbodysoul]
    #22374498 - 10/13/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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mindbodysoul said:
otherwise america would be one of the last ones there




Um, no.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374513 - 10/13/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you're one of those people op is talking about


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: mindbodysoul]
    #22374528 - 10/13/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, not even close. But if the worst thing you have to say about your country is that your phone calls get listened to, you're better off than a lot of people.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374552 - 10/13/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i don't think that at all. thats why i said other breaches


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: mindbodysoul]
    #22374565 - 10/13/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Like what? What have we done that would make us the most oppressive country in the world?

I'm not arguing that America isn't fucked up, but it sounds like you've got an extremely limited world view.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #22374602 - 10/13/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Making the top 20 is something to be proud of, IMO.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #22374617 - 10/13/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Top 6 is even better :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22374853 - 10/13/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Free Coaster.
Then we might up a rank.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Enlil]
    #22378680 - 10/14/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is true. I feel we need to up our ranks, I think this nation should improve, that we should be number one- the most free!!

Bring back the freemarket, less Government and more freedom!
Smaller Government, more freedom.

If things here became the way they were meant to be the entire world would see a true definition of freedom.
Instead we have all these people trying to take away our guns and putting people in jail/prison for drugs!
We could all sit here and make a list of the things that put us down to number 20 but what will it help right?

sigh...

Isn't it shocking that hong kong is number one? How wild is that!


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22378723 - 10/14/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not that surprising


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22378738 - 10/14/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do i know u? does your name start with an M?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 3
    #22378823 - 10/14/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Where are The Netherlands? Oooh we're 12th! Excuse me America I cant hear you over all our FREEDOM :P


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22378913 - 10/14/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can u really enjoy freedom in wooden shoes, though?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22378922 - 10/14/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its a crisis, nobody wears them anymore so they arent made anymore. The tourists industry has a supply problem.

The netherlands are #1 in the world where it comes to deliberate phone tapping though. We do that more than the DDR used to do.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22378964 - 10/14/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd rock some wooden shoes.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379011 - 10/14/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Its a crisis, nobody wears them anymore so they arent made anymore. The tourists industry has a supply problem.





I have two pairs... Not even ironically or anything, most people here have them, they're great for walking in mud and you slip right into them, no finnicky laces or anything.

I guess the country really IS going down the toilet, now that almost nobody wears clogs anymore :frown:

Also... no Dutchman ever took pride in living in a free country, no chest beating, no chanting "USA! USA!"-style when abroad, and yet...

suck it, Americans!


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379037 - 10/14/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I usually either wear handmade leather african sandals indoors or short distance or Lowa GTX hiking shoes outdoors long distance.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379070 - 10/14/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn. I just wear steel boots ( not steel toes they are called metatarsal and cover your entire foot ) while I'm at work, or Damn sneakers. That being said I'd totally at least try clogs! If they suck the Netherlands still rock! Due to types and certain bands of various types of metal music that come from that area!


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379084 - 10/14/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dutch Klompen (clogs) are said not to be bad if you wear thick wool socks to cushion the foot.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379093 - 10/14/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You could always steal 'em from other Shroomerites. You're good at that.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379094 - 10/14/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As if there is any other kind of sock,  you be trippin' Asante :lol:


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379147 - 10/14/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Everyone has done something shitty in our lives. Probably since being on this site even. It's devoted to drugs and occupied by many drug addicts. I assure you anything I may have done years ago, before having kids I'm sorry for. And would attempt to remedy. However I don't even have any way of knowing who I did what to or not. And that period is pretty hazy in my mind. Look recently at my stuff. I am no opiate addiction anymo


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379153 - 10/14/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Check your ratings. It's not hard to figure out who you ripped off.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22379185 - 10/14/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's one person that says anything. And I did it more than once. For a print which I'm not sure of what. Never had a sheet of any psychedelic before. I will contact him but clearly you know me. So if you have more info why not share it with me? Damn. Look at my posts I don't do that shit anymore.
Sorry for hijacking OP this caught me off guard and I feel bad. Continue in PM or another thread if you could. I only have two ratings and only one is about that stuff man. But there's more I think.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379194 - 10/14/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, there's two people on their, and who said anything about a sheet of psychedelics?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379215 - 10/14/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You know what is weird, Asante? All these people talking about zwarte piet telling us they are defending Dutch culture, yet they don't even own clogs I betcha. That's weird, man.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379263 - 10/14/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm all for Zwarte Piet changing, we should have done it decades ago, its been offensive since at least the 1980s and we just havent done a fuck about it.



Here's Gerda Havertong raising the issue in Dutch sesame street as early as 1987.

Its always been a thing, we just swept it under the rug.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379284 - 10/14/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Idk man it says a print. But thanks for being understanding of a rough point. I'll try to ask a mod or something for old messages if possible.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379303 - 10/14/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Holy shit, even sesaam straat? In the 80's?
Damn, thanks for showing that to me.

But just between you and me: ze ziet er hartstikke uit als zwarte piet :lol:


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379330 - 10/14/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Idk man it says a print. But thanks for being understanding of a rough point. I'll try to ask a mod or something for old messages if possible.




A print means a spore print, not a sheet of drugs.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379339 - 10/14/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Blackface is really Not Done in polite company, ask any sensible American.

Its a minstrel/coon show basically, deeply offensive to people of color internationally.

As soon as Suriname became independent in 1975 they dared to politely raise the issue towards their former occupational government (us). Zwarte Piet is illegal in Suriname.

Feel free to use the sesamstraat piece as ammo. This is NOT something that is made a thing in recent times, it ALWAYS was an issue.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22379353 - 10/14/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah. Never even grew any like ever. Remember it but not how or why I did it. Thanks for calling me out because really it's been nowhere on my mind. Life is busy for the past 4 years.
Asante can you pipe in? Can you see my old messages or know how I can?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379354 - 10/14/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379357 - 10/14/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your most recent accusation of thievery was from last year, not 4 years ago.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22379366 - 10/14/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Man take your Zwarte Piet discussion elsewhere :thumbdown:

How on earth can a nation where possession can lead to life long imprisonment be the freest land on earth. Thats just plain wrong

Can you be openly gay and marry there?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #22379389 - 10/14/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Man take your Zwarte Piet discussion elsewhere :thumbdown:





:rofl:

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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379410 - 10/14/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Rolan one of your accusers is Sterben. I know he is legit as fuck and isnt one to cry scammer.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Asante]
    #22379597 - 10/14/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Never claimed to not done anything. Could of been then. I've fucked up a couple times. Regardless. Can't think of anything particularl. Yugioh card trade that didn't happen


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Rolan]
    #22379838 - 10/14/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You know in that video I posted they said Canada is more free than the USA probably because it's so spread out. Wilderness and shit. When a Government can't mess with a bunch of it's citizens because they can't get to them I guess that makes them more free right?


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22379913 - 10/14/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also the fact that the USA has a way higher percentage of its population incarcerated. Like six times the percentage Canada has. That can't help either.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #22381663 - 10/15/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For real.I bet a bunch of it is drug related. I like this video for informing people on why to end drug prohibition.





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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22381697 - 10/15/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You know in that video I posted they said Canada is more free than the USA probably because it's so spread out. Wilderness and shit. When a Government can't mess with a bunch of it's citizens because they can't get to them I guess that makes them more free right?




Canada is not more free than the USA. Most of us actually live in cities not in the bush BTW.
Our justice is just lax. People see light sentence for drug crime and think its progressive but we give violent criminals and rapists a slap on wrist too.
Canada had it's Edward Snowden moment years and years ago when the media interviewed a anonymous member of CSIS (our NSA) and he told them they can listen to any phone call at any time with no oversight by anyone. The problem is our nation is fucking lazy and these revelations caused no protests. People got more upset about the hockey strike.
There are things I like better about Canada but I strongly disagree we are more free. I can still get a life ruining conviction for a roach in my car's ashtray. You guys have state after state with great med pot laws or states it's legal. Even places it's illegal it's more and more often just a fine. In Canada people still get criminal records for half a gram.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22382510 - 10/15/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

calling 911 is like calling the cops and ambulance at the same time lol


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22388883 - 10/16/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You know in that video I posted they said Canada is more free than the USA probably because it's so spread out. Wilderness and shit. When a Government can't mess with a bunch of it's citizens because they can't get to them I guess that makes them more free right?




Canada is not more free than the USA. Most of us actually live in cities not in the bush BTW.
Our justice is just lax. People see light sentence for drug crime and think its progressive but we give violent criminals and rapists a slap on wrist too.
Canada had it's Edward Snowden moment years and years ago when the media interviewed a anonymous member of CSIS (our NSA) and he told them they can listen to any phone call at any time with no oversight by anyone. The problem is our nation is fucking lazy and these revelations caused no protests. People got more upset about the hockey strike.
There are things I like better about Canada but I strongly disagree we are more free. I can still get a life ruining conviction for a roach in my car's ashtray. You guys have state after state with great med pot laws or states it's legal. Even places it's illegal it's more and more often just a fine. In Canada people still get criminal records for half a gram.





It's nice to hear from a legit Canadian on the issue. Thank you for sharing. The list is a little weird. I have not looked up other index's. It' seems they base their judgments on some odd ball things maybe.

Shiiit I always thought marijuana was more relaxed in Canada. That's shity. My friend who still lives in FL of the USA told me not long ago that the cops busted this guy for 3 plants in his back yard. They just wrote him a ticket. I definitely think the marijuana issue is easing up greatly in the USA in certain places. If they legalize it in FL 2016 I'm definitely moving back to my homeland.


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Re: Global Freedom Index: We're Number 20! [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22389224 - 10/16/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Canada is just coming through a period of very conservative government rule. I'm an old timer and it is the most conservative I have ever seen our government/policies. This without a doubt influences our level of freedom. This coming Monday I think our government is going to change from conservative to liberal. If the polls are correct and this happens our level of freedom is apt to improve significantly. Relevant to the members of this site---the liberal incumbent (Justin Trudeau) has said that he will legalize cannabis nation wide. If this happens we will no longer need to look south with envy for the progressive American pot policy of recent years. Fingers crossed that the tyrant that is our Prime minister gets his ass handed to him come Monday. I love my nation, but the last 10 years has been a dark spot on our position in the world.


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