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giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical?
    #22374097 - 10/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So this is the second flush for these trays and since not many shrooms popped up i chose to be lazy and not harvest them. Is it typical for shrooms to get this big if not picked because i normally harvest right when the veil breaks like what the orange 2 tray is about to do.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
    #22374194 - 10/13/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:awecid:

Dayum those are some giant fruits!! Perfectly normal for them to get bigger after the cap fully opens.

But, you have some GREAT genetics there.

I'd definitely take some clones! :rockon:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22374207 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

DUUDEEEE that is soo cool! How big were they when the veil broke? And how much time did you wait for them to become this big?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Mark420]
    #22374267 - 10/13/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was hoping the genetics were good since I did about a month of agar work before. However I have always heard to not let them fully grow and to harvest when the veil breaks. I would say the veil broke on them 2 days ago and they were the same size as the tray with orange sticker. Are the giants okay to consume or are they long overdue?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
    #22374316 - 10/13/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Eat those up!! Enjoy the trip, I'm sure they're veryy potent. Gotta love agar. :woot:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22374449 - 10/13/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They're perfectly fine to consume (and look amazing btw).  I keep reading that they stop generating actives when the veil breaks though, so they've added more weight than potency.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Sivarted]
    #22374481 - 10/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And they're covered in spores and probably more hollow than before.  :shrug:

I find past-mature mushrooms pretty ugly.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22374546 - 10/13/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Spore covered mushrooms are very unappetizing. Last time I tried to eat a dried mushie with spores on it, I almost ruined my carpet. :puke:

Decided to toss out that batch. I'll never try that again. :lol:

However, you can wipe off a good majority of those spores with a damp paper towel, it's not too late!!!


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22374830 - 10/13/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22374831 - 10/13/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Alright thanks i will give it a shot. I get one hell of a headache after eating dry shrooms so i make tea now so the ugliness doesnt matter.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22374843 - 10/13/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.




Because if you're trying to make more weight instead of more potency, then that means your priorities are shitty and reveals what you're trying to do with your mushrooms, which if they were for you, you would want to eat less and achieve the same effect.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22374855 - 10/13/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22374887 - 10/13/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also, just a footnote, nobody I know likes having to eat huge ass cubes.  People actually complain about big mushrooms sometimes.  And if you have to eat even more than you would of regular sized mushrooms, that basically makes them a chore, and a disservice to whoever is helping you eat them.

Unless of course you enjoy the taste of cubes and want to be able to cook with them without tripping quite as hard, and you do in fact eat them all yourself, then by all means, grow em huge.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22374966 - 10/13/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Would you rather have
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I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.




Because if you're trying to make more weight instead of more potency, then that means your priorities are shitty and reveals what you're trying to do with your mushrooms, which if they were for you, you would want to eat less and achieve the same effect.




When are they "supposed" to be harvested anyway?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22374979 - 10/13/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Even talking about what you're talking about is against the rules here.

And because that's really the only reason.  Most people grow for personal consumption and most people don't like eating more than they have to.

What's one reason to let them get huge?  Bonus points for 3 good reasons.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375013 - 10/13/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What rule did I break? I will delete it if it's against the rules

1) Surely they continue growing actives?
2) Bigger mushroom?
3) Why not let them grow as big as possible?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375035 - 10/13/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure there's any actual evidence that mature mushrooms are less potent than nearly mature mushrooms. The main thing is preventing the spore mess.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
    #22375052 - 10/13/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid: Id rather have more flushes than bigger fruits on my first flush. :thumbup:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375056 - 10/13/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

1. Surely?  According to..?  If I go ahead and give you this one, assuming this one is correct, the actives production would still not be as much in ratio to the other weight it's putting on, due to the rate of cell expansion vs division at that stage of maturity.
2. Get good instead of cheating by letting them fill up with water and expand for no reason?
3."Why not?" is not an answer to "Why?"

My turn.

1. Better potency by weight according to most anecdotal evidence (which is all we have)
2. Caps are less flat and less likely to break up into dust during storage, which can speed up oxidation depending on how they're stored.
3. No spores all over the substrate, potentially signalling it that it's been successful and doesn't need to produce anymore.
4. More energy for the substrate to produce more mushrooms
5. If you are taking a spore print, you want them picked before the majority of spores are already dropped, and likewise, before the majority of the spores are exposed to open air conditions.
6. They look better dried
7. They taste better when not covered in spores

I could go on, but I don't think I need to.

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I'm not sure there's any actual evidence that mature mushrooms are less potent than nearly mature mushrooms. The main thing is preventing the spore mess.





Like i said, only anecdotal, but until we get something better, I'm gonna go ahead and trust what I've experienced.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
    #22375064 - 10/13/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fucking oath, what the hell is with the "harvest when veil breaks" shit? Is this outdated information? Let's get some more opinions up in the motherfucker!


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375073 - 10/13/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You have all the opinions needed. Harvest before the veil breaks is the best way to harvest. If you don't agree let us know how it works out for you. :cheers:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375106 - 10/13/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My turn.

1. Better potency by weight according to most anecdotal evidence (which is all we have)
2. Caps are less flat and less likely to break up into dust during storage, which can speed up oxidation depending on how they're stored.
3. No spores all over the substrate, potentially signalling it that it's been successful and doesn't need to produce anymore.
4. More energy for the substrate to produce more mushrooms
5. If you are taking a spore print, you want them picked before the majority of spores are already dropped, and likewise, before the majority of the spores are exposed to open air conditions.
6. They look better dried
7. They taste better when not covered in spores

I could go on, but I don't think I need to.




1. TC?
2. Handle with care, store properly
3. TC?
4. TC?
5. Take one specimen that has no dropped all it's spores only for a print?
6. I think giant shrooms look awesome dried
7. Wash the spores off

Please do go on, let's have a discussion about this :smile: Will be interesting.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22375114 - 10/13/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

add a little bit of seasoning to those flat head before drying... they make excellent chips  :fonda:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375130 - 10/13/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, fine, dehydrator runs take less time because the fruit hasn't swollen up with pointless water weight.  NOT having to wash off fruits, which also increases drying time.  They store better because the caps are more dense than they are wide flat crispy pancakes, so you can fit more of them in a small space.

What is all this TC? TC? TC? stuff?  You're really asking for my information to be verified by a TC right now?  You need a TC to confirm that growing out mushrooms past their prime takes more energy than not doing that?  :facepalm:  You need a TC to confirm that a handful of small dense fruits is more potent than one huge hollow one covered in spores?  I said anecdotal.  That means no one can invalidate it without actual objective evidence.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22375139 - 10/13/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1. Surely?  According to..?  If I go ahead and give you this one, assuming this one is correct, the actives production would still not be as much in ratio to the other weight it's putting on, due to the rate of cell expansion vs division at that stage of maturity.



Cell expansion is from an inflow of water. Most people dry their mushrooms though so any extra water weight is removed while any extra actives would not be.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22375146 - 10/13/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What strain? are they Texas?

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add a little bit of seasoning to those flat head before drying... they make excellent chips  :fonda:



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
    #22375155 - 10/13/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1. Surely?  According to..?  If I go ahead and give you this one, assuming this one is correct, the actives production would still not be as much in ratio to the other weight it's putting on, due to the rate of cell expansion vs division at that stage of maturity.



Cell expansion is from an inflow of water. Most people dry their mushrooms though so any extra water weight is removed while any extra actives would not be.




If water weight were the only thing added, perhaps.  Large fruits do dry out to a little bit more than if they were picked earlier it seems like.  Every single time I've ever given anyone the choice between a large fruit and several small ones, they ALWAYS go for the small ones, and based on comparative doses I've done of overly mature large fruits vs lots of pins/aborts, I'm always blown away by the dose of smaller specimens.

I can't rule out expectations as playing a role but it's not farfetched that, based on the overall rate of expansion for cubes, which is about twice the size each day, it's quite logical that on the last day or two when it's expanding the most it ever has, that the actives content would have a hard time keeping up.  Experiences back this up.  I see the reasons to doubt it, but I don't see any reason to give them more weight, pun not intended.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375161 - 10/13/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay, fine, dehydrator runs take less time because the fruit hasn't swollen up with pointless water weight.  NOT having to wash off fruits, which also increases drying time.  They store better because the caps are more dense than they are wide flat crispy pancakes, so you can fit more of them in a small space.

What is all this TC? TC? TC? stuff?  You're really asking for my information to be verified by a TC right now?  You need a TC to confirm that growing out mushrooms past their prime takes more energy than not doing that?  :facepalm:  You need a TC to confirm that a handful of small dense fruits is more potent than one huge hollow one covered in spores?  I said anecdotal.  That means no one can invalidate it without actual objective evidence.




The other points you bring up are not a big deal.

The TC? is because you bring up very good points, they should be discussed!


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375199 - 10/13/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1. Surely?  According to..?  If I go ahead and give you this one, assuming this one is correct, the actives production would still not be as much in ratio to the other weight it's putting on, due to the rate of cell expansion vs division at that stage of maturity.



Cell expansion is from an inflow of water. Most people dry their mushrooms though so any extra water weight is removed while any extra actives would not be.




If water weight were the only thing added, perhaps.  Large fruits do dry out to a little bit more than if they were picked earlier it seems like.  Every single time I've ever given anyone the choice between a large fruit and several small ones, they ALWAYS go for the small ones, and based on comparative doses I've done of overly mature large fruits vs lots of pins/aborts, I'm always blown away by the dose of smaller specimens.




That's because aborts and pins are most potent by weight.
Aborts you cant do anything about, but pins are a waste.

I think it's because the concentration in smaller mushrooms are more potent because there are more individual mushrooms, if you let them grow as big as possible I say that's most potency overall right there!


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22375216 - 10/13/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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add a little bit of seasoning to those flat head before drying... they make excellent chips  :fonda:



Awesome idea!!  I'll be trying this out with my next batch! :rockon:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22375237 - 10/13/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I still say let them grow as big as possible, how big do they get though, that is the question, OP, let those big fuckers grow as big as possible.

Infact, let all of your shrooms grow as big as possible, what tek is that BTW I would love to look into it.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375251 - 10/13/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I still say let them grow as big as possible, how big do they get though, that is the question, OP, let those big fuckers grow as big as possible.

Infact, let all of your shrooms grow as big as possible, what tek is that BTW I would love to look into it.




You know what, whatever, have fun.



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add a little bit of seasoning to those flat head before drying... they make excellent chips  :fonda:



Awesome idea!!  I'll be trying this out with my next batch! :rockon:




You're not serious are you?  I thought this was a joke.  There are better seasoned chips out there.  You've heard of potatoes or tortillas I take it?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375254 - 10/13/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375274 - 10/13/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy fuck oi, that's fucked ay...

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375281 - 10/13/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, the air currents blacken everything with spores.  Everything.  Varieties like APE that don't drop spores get mushy and soft and start to rot instead of ever reaching that stage.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375294 - 10/13/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Air currents?

How did you clean up than mess, damn.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375302 - 10/13/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's not my mess, I typed "harvest too late" into the search engine and picked like, the first thread that I saw.  I've never had anything remotely that bad.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375321 - 10/13/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How do you prevent that fuckery of a mess and produce largest possible fruits, at the same time?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375331 - 10/13/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What tek did OP use?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375332 - 10/13/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Im with inoc, in my experience aborts/tiny fruits blew away larger fruits with the same weight.
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How do you prevent that fuckery of a mess and produce largest possible fruits, at the same time?



you gotta sneak up on em before they :stonedjerk:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375340 - 10/13/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Fucking oath, what the hell is with the "harvest when veil breaks" shit? Is this outdated information? Let's get some more opinions up in the motherfucker!




Every thread ever on when to pick.  How much more discussion do you want?

The claim is that mushrooms stop producing new actives when the veil breaks, so letting them grow past that point you're not adding potency, just weight.  I don't know why, or where this info comes from, but that's the current wisdom, and if you want to try to refute that wisdom you'd need to do a lot of really controlled experimentation or have access to lab equipment that is able to determine such things.

Keep in mind that there's probably a whole lot of experimentation that has gone on before you, and that maybe you should actually grow your first mushroom before you start trying to out-think decades of growers.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375342 - 10/13/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Grow a sporeless variety or just... don't.  No other cultivator of things waits past the time something is ready to satisfy their own egos.

If you do that with weed, tomatoes, apples, berries, or pretty much anything, it doesn't get continually bigger and better.  Why would this be different?

You don't get a better steak the longer you cook it.  It just makes a whole lot of sense to do things at the time they need doing.

For the record I don't think actives just STOP producing right when the veil breaks, that would be stupid, but I don't think they can keep up with expansion of the fruit anymore.  It gets to a point where that energy would be better spent on a new mushroom that has a higher ratio of potency.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375349 - 10/13/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They are south american. I will judge the potency of these large fruits based on when the veil first broke after harvesting my first flush. Drying smaller fruits is easier, the dehydrator isnt overflowed and dont take as long to dry.
But i will test the potency issue. I have a high tolerance, cause my serotonin levels are low, so i have to eat 7g dry just to start having low level visuals. I will do 7g of these large fruits and compare.
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
    #22375353 - 10/13/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, let us know what you think.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #22375359 - 10/13/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Im with inoc, in my experience aborts/tiny fruits blew away larger fruits with the same weight.
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How do you prevent that fuckery of a mess and produce largest possible fruits, at the same time?



you gotta sneak up on em before they :stonedjerk:




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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375372 - 10/13/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Starting when the veil breaks, up until the caps are flipped upside down on the edges and gills are on top of the mushroom, which I think looks nasty as hell btw.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375391 - 10/13/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Surly harvest before that amount of spores are dispersed...


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375392 - 10/13/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea i would much rather have smaller fruits with more potency than larger with more weight. I was just shocked that after 2 days from veil breakage they grew that huge. It was not my intention but just surprised me is all cause i never grew any that big before.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
    #22375411 - 10/13/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would want the biggest fuckers possible, but I guess that's just me.

Like the time I came across the giant sub in the first image in my signature, that was a good day :cool::thumbup:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
    #22375413 - 10/13/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Try AA+.  Great variety to grow monsters.  And you don't really have to let them go that long.



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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375442 - 10/13/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The pes AMAZON strain gets that big


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22375447 - 10/13/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Albino A+
Holy fuck I did not know that strain can produce such monsters, what are the biggest strains out there?


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375540 - 10/13/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Wow i might have to try that AA+ or amazon next time


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
    #22375562 - 10/13/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you prevent that fuckery of a mess and produce largest possible fruits, at the same time?



You can remove some of the actively growing pins. People have used the method to create monster mushrooms as the extra nutrients are apparently diverted to the remaining growing pins. That's not to say it's an efficient way of growing.

Mushrooms grown in darkness have delayed spore production allowing you to grow them for longer but it also results in relatively tiny caps.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
    #22375856 - 10/13/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Guys! This is a forum of peace...
Instead of sending of bad energy to each other we should say thank you and learn from each other!:stoned:


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Mark420]
    #22375862 - 10/13/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Science doesn't progress by saying thank you to everybody.  Nobody tore anybody down, that was pretty tame discussion.  I'll let you guess what kind of mind reads into debate about facts and sees animosity in it.


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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22376000 - 10/13/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22376012 - 10/13/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like to harvest when the time is right , I forgot about these and would not take anything for themI like to make orange juice smoothies with the accidental overly-ripe ones like these dried ones. Its ideal to harvest as the veil is breaking. I do think people are trying to add that extra bit of weight when they get like that. I do like a nice large print though, but that is a different story. My friends and I enjoyed some fresh smoothies that morning, come up fast with that OJ. Nice grow, BTW. They look terrific:thumbup:


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