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Iwillnevertell
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giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical?
#22374097 - 10/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So this is the second flush for these trays and since not many shrooms popped up i chose to be lazy and not harvest them. Is it typical for shrooms to get this big if not picked because i normally harvest right when the veil breaks like what the orange 2 tray is about to do.
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Psilosoulful

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
#22374194 - 10/13/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dayum those are some giant fruits!! Perfectly normal for them to get bigger after the cap fully opens.
But, you have some GREAT genetics there.
I'd definitely take some clones!
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22374207 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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DUUDEEEE that is soo cool! How big were they when the veil broke? And how much time did you wait for them to become this big?
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Iwillnevertell
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Mark420]
#22374267 - 10/13/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was hoping the genetics were good since I did about a month of agar work before. However I have always heard to not let them fully grow and to harvest when the veil breaks. I would say the veil broke on them 2 days ago and they were the same size as the tray with orange sticker. Are the giants okay to consume or are they long overdue?
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Psilosoulful

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Iwillnevertell]
#22374316 - 10/13/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eat those up!! Enjoy the trip, I'm sure they're veryy potent. Gotta love agar.
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22374449 - 10/13/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're perfectly fine to consume (and look amazing btw). I keep reading that they stop generating actives when the veil breaks though, so they've added more weight than potency.
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Inocuole
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Sivarted]
#22374481 - 10/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And they're covered in spores and probably more hollow than before. 
I find past-mature mushrooms pretty ugly.
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Psilosoulful

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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
#22374546 - 10/13/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spore covered mushrooms are very unappetizing. Last time I tried to eat a dried mushie with spores on it, I almost ruined my carpet. 
Decided to toss out that batch. I'll never try that again. 
However, you can wipe off a good majority of those spores with a damp paper towel, it's not too late!!!
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Ghost0420
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22374830 - 10/13/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.
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Iwillnevertell
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22374831 - 10/13/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright thanks i will give it a shot. I get one hell of a headache after eating dry shrooms so i make tea now so the ugliness doesnt matter.
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Inocuole
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22374843 - 10/13/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ghost0420 said: I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.
Because if you're trying to make more weight instead of more potency, then that means your priorities are shitty and reveals what you're trying to do with your mushrooms, which if they were for you, you would want to eat less and achieve the same effect.
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
#22374855 - 10/13/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22374887 - 10/13/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, just a footnote, nobody I know likes having to eat huge ass cubes. People actually complain about big mushrooms sometimes. And if you have to eat even more than you would of regular sized mushrooms, that basically makes them a chore, and a disservice to whoever is helping you eat them.
Unless of course you enjoy the taste of cubes and want to be able to cook with them without tripping quite as hard, and you do in fact eat them all yourself, then by all means, grow em huge.
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Ghost0420
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
#22374966 - 10/13/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would you rather have Quote:
Inocuole said:
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Ghost0420 said: I think harvesting when the veil breaks is bullshit, I say why the fuck not let them grow as big as possible.
Because if you're trying to make more weight instead of more potency, then that means your priorities are shitty and reveals what you're trying to do with your mushrooms, which if they were for you, you would want to eat less and achieve the same effect.
When are they "supposed" to be harvested anyway?
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Edited by Ghost0420 (10/13/15 06:47 PM)
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Inocuole
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22374979 - 10/13/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even talking about what you're talking about is against the rules here.
And because that's really the only reason. Most people grow for personal consumption and most people don't like eating more than they have to.
What's one reason to let them get huge? Bonus points for 3 good reasons.
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Ghost0420
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
#22375013 - 10/13/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What rule did I break? I will delete it if it's against the rules
1) Surely they continue growing actives? 2) Bigger mushroom? 3) Why not let them grow as big as possible?
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Kizzle
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Inocuole]
#22375035 - 10/13/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure there's any actual evidence that mature mushrooms are less potent than nearly mature mushrooms. The main thing is preventing the spore mess.
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
#22375052 - 10/13/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id rather have more flushes than bigger fruits on my first flush.
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Inocuole
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22375056 - 10/13/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Surely? According to..? If I go ahead and give you this one, assuming this one is correct, the actives production would still not be as much in ratio to the other weight it's putting on, due to the rate of cell expansion vs division at that stage of maturity. 2. Get good instead of cheating by letting them fill up with water and expand for no reason? 3."Why not?" is not an answer to "Why?"
My turn.
1. Better potency by weight according to most anecdotal evidence (which is all we have) 2. Caps are less flat and less likely to break up into dust during storage, which can speed up oxidation depending on how they're stored. 3. No spores all over the substrate, potentially signalling it that it's been successful and doesn't need to produce anymore. 4. More energy for the substrate to produce more mushrooms 5. If you are taking a spore print, you want them picked before the majority of spores are already dropped, and likewise, before the majority of the spores are exposed to open air conditions. 6. They look better dried 7. They taste better when not covered in spores
I could go on, but I don't think I need to.
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Kizzle said: I'm not sure there's any actual evidence that mature mushrooms are less potent than nearly mature mushrooms. The main thing is preventing the spore mess.
Like i said, only anecdotal, but until we get something better, I'm gonna go ahead and trust what I've experienced.
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Ghost0420
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Re: giant shrooms if not harvested. is this typical? [Re: Kizzle]
#22375064 - 10/13/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucking oath, what the hell is with the "harvest when veil breaks" shit? Is this outdated information? Let's get some more opinions up in the motherfucker!
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