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Why is weed taken so lightly? * 1
    #22373321 - 10/13/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] * 7
    #22373340 - 10/13/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ever sucked dick for weed?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] * 1
    #22373341 - 10/13/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Because it's a light drug.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373348 - 10/13/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

like anything when you do it often it becomes more normal. most people mid tripping are much more incapacitated vs being stoned where you can function at work or driving ect.

also with those long breaks you are bound to get really high vs many stoners smoking every day.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373372 - 10/13/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
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When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Capers]
    #22373374 - 10/13/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Capers said:
Because it's a light drug.




But what I'm asking is how did it get to the point everyone just thinks it is a 'light drug'? I can't speak for everyone but I know my friends and I have had some real deep trips on weed. Also there is documented instances where ayahuasca shamans have tried weed and spoke of how strong it was. I think it is totally fine to use it however you want as long as you don't harm others; I'm just curious how it made it into the mainstream when other psychedelics are still taboo?


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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373387 - 10/13/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think the only problem I have currently is that the medical stuff is pretty strong. I've already fainted twice here in Colorado from smoking and being a bit dehydrated. I don't know, I don't find weed THAT strong, except when I started smoking. People just need to chill. They be smokin' too many blunts and then complain when they forget everything, spend all their money on cheap food, and sleep for 12 hours.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Capers]
    #22373389 - 10/13/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think you should have to personally grow that stuffmake it
too many noobs smoking that shit not knowing what they're doing, too many shitty drivers but hey gotta be 21 now so...
I started growing recently, working on some cbd diesel it's like 8% but the shit gets' me high as balls and I get the real thing as far as CBD goes, if they put that in a pill I'd probably take CBG


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Tantrika]
    #22373403 - 10/13/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

SweetLeafSamadhi said:
Quote:

SaltyPeaks said:
I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373411 - 10/13/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i agree, it's a sacred medicine and should be treated as so.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373415 - 10/13/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No matter how stoned i get mentally, and how fucked i feel, I'm physically fine. I'm capable of doing normal things, and am normally a little better at doing them :shrug:. I cant say the same about tripping.

Nothing is sacred anymore, IMO. Not even tripping. People have turned those activities into recreation rather than spiritual enhancement.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #22373417 - 10/13/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think the only problem I have currently is that weed is so damn strong, especially the medical stuff. I've already fainted twice here in Colorado from smoking and being a bit dehydrated. I don't know, I don't find weed THAT strong, except when I started smoking. People just need to chill. They be smokin' too many blunts and then complain when they forget everything, spend all their money on cheap food, and sleep for 12 hours.




Better than someone speedballing meth and heroin, stealing all your shit, ripping the copper out of your wiring and vacuuming the lawn while shooting an AK at helicopters manned by shadow people. :shrug:

Drunks are no better than stoners.

Some drugs are better than other drugs.

But that's just like, my opinion man.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373426 - 10/13/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373437 - 10/13/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
Quote:

SweetLeafSamadhi said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.




Ive got the weird proportions. You ever get "cartoon vision"? For me it all went away, but to this day if i smoke enough everything looks a little warped and too colorful.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22373449 - 10/13/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373458 - 10/13/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No matter how stoned i get mentally, and how fucked i feel, I'm physically fine. I'm capable of doing normal things, and am normally a little better at doing them :shrug:. I cant say the same about tripping.

Nothing is sacred anymore, IMO. Not even tripping. People have turned those activities into recreation rather than spiritual enhancement.




Damn, I know for certain that most times when I smoke there is at least a few minutes where I wouldn't trust myself to do anything important, drive, or just get up off that uber comfy couch I'm on. I think LSD, shrooms, DMT, etc. are way more in your face literally and figuratively; but I know weed changes my minds eye perception of things just as much as those drugs do, just in a different direction.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22373466 - 10/13/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I have personally found that i feel waaaay more euphoric off 3 big hits from my bowl than if i smoke a whole gram at once. Nothing fun about getting so high you feel incapacitated and insane.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22373467 - 10/13/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

ShortbusExplosion said:
because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22373479 - 10/13/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373486 - 10/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
No matter how stoned i get mentally, and how fucked i feel, I'm physically fine. I'm capable of doing normal things, and am normally a little better at doing them :shrug:. I cant say the same about tripping.

Nothing is sacred anymore, IMO. Not even tripping. People have turned those activities into recreation rather than spiritual enhancement.




Damn, I know for certain that most times when I smoke there is at least a few minutes where I wouldn't trust myself to do anything important, drive, or just get up off that uber comfy couch I'm on. I think LSD, shrooms, DMT, etc. are way more in your face literally and figuratively; but I know weed changes my minds eye perception of things just as much as those drugs do, just in a different direction.




Yeah, i said capable, not willing :lol:
I've driven really stoned, i drove fine, but was going 35 the whole time and freaking out. It felt like i was driving forever, in reality i only drove 5 minutes.

I normally dont put myself in situations where im high out of my mind and have to do something like drive, but if the situation arises I'm not unable to function. If I was nodding off or shit faced I would definitely not be able to drive.


Edited by xbloodwhipx (10/13/15 01:48 PM)


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373487 - 10/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We'll get there, we'll get there.
At least they're finally doing some research on them again. Once people have accepted weed, and all these miracle stories about mushrooms or LSD come out, just you watch.
It's going to happen :Feelstrippyman:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373498 - 10/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
Quote:

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SaltyPeaks said:
I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.



dude, W T F? seems like a pretty unusual reaction to weed. i mean, i used to smoke a lotta weed, but i never had everything turn red nd start melting n shit


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373500 - 10/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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xbloodwhipx said:
No matter how stoned i get mentally, and how fucked i feel, I'm physically fine. I'm capable of doing normal things, and am normally a little better at doing them :shrug:. I cant say the same about tripping.

Nothing is sacred anymore, IMO. Not even tripping. People have turned those activities into recreation rather than spiritual enhancement.




Damn, I know for certain that most times when I smoke there is at least a few minutes where I wouldn't trust myself to do anything important, drive, or just get up off that uber comfy couch I'm on. I think LSD, shrooms, DMT, etc. are way more in your face literally and figuratively; but I know weed changes my minds eye perception of things just as much as those drugs do, just in a different direction.




Yeah, i said capable, not willing :lol:
I've driven really stoned, i drove fine, but was going 35 the whole time and freaking out. It felt like i was driving forever, in reality i only drove 5 minutes.

I normally dont put myself in situations where im high out of my mind and have to do something like drive, but if the situation arises I'm not unable to function.




I mean it is obviously safer than driving drunk, but as far as being able to impact peoples way of thinking and living is more of what I am taking about. Just because you can drive doesn't mean it is weak, just as alcohol causing you not to be able to drive doesn't make it equal to LSD.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373506 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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SweetLeafSamadhi said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.




Have smoked all day every day for the past 5 years.
Had a year of smoking nothing but kief.
Several grams per day under government medical license.

Have only ever had visual hallucinations on one occasion, from a very large dose of edibles.
Perhaps tolerance buildup is what mitigates much of the impact.
People in my day-to-day life are frequently unable to tell I am stoned unless I make them aware of it -- some are genuinely shocked to learn that they have never even interacted with me sober. :lol:

When you say "profound" what do you mean?
Was it the hallucinations were particularly impacting?
Did you feel some sort of "divine" guidance or purpose?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22373507 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
We'll get there, we'll get there.
At least they're finally doing some research on them again. Once people have accepted weed, and all these miracle stories about mushrooms or LSD come out, just you watch.
It's going to happen :Feelstrippyman:




I hope :psychsplit:


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373525 - 10/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22373526 - 10/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
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Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
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When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.



dude, W T F? seems like a pretty unusual reaction to weed. i mean, i used to smoke a lotta weed, but i never had everything turn red nd start melting n shit




I don't really know what to say, I had consumed somewhere around the 2-3 gram range from a bong in a hot boxed 12x12 room, I am a pretty average size guy. One thing I do pride myself on is never fighting or resisting a trip, I seem to always be able to get right into and it always is a good ride.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Tantrika]
    #22373558 - 10/13/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
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Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
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When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.




Have smoked all day every day for the past 5 years.
Had a year of smoking nothing but kief.
Several grams per day under government medical license.

Have only ever had visual hallucinations on one occasion, from a very large dose of edibles.
Perhaps tolerance buildup is what mitigates much of the impact.
People in my day-to-day life are frequently unable to tell I am stoned unless I make them aware of it -- some are genuinely shocked to learn that they have never even interacted with me sober. :lol:

When you say "profound" what do you mean?
Was it the hallucinations were particularly impacting?
Did you feel some sort of "divine" guidance or purpose?




My tolerance is definitely lower than yours no doubt haha. I do not believe in any supernatural or really any spiritual stuff either. What I mean as profound is that single smoking sessions have completely changed my way of sober thinking. As far as the hallucinations, I haven't been shown any 'divine' stuff or at least I didn't take it for anything beyond face value. That is I saw it as I saw it, I didn't interpret it to mean anything other than 'the wall is melting' or 'Oh, it looks like I'm in water'.:eek:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373587 - 10/13/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You seem to have skipped the first post in this thread


Have you ever sucked dick for weed?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373604 - 10/13/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22373613 - 10/13/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You seem to have skipped the first post in this thread


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How do you get yours?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373618 - 10/13/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got some hybrids right now that make me not want to think or move. Let alone drive.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373623 - 10/13/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is like the baby drug of drugs...that is why

Of course, if all you've tried is weed... which I assume OP has never taken any other drug if he thinks weed is hard


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373624 - 10/13/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly think the legalization of marijuana was kind of a slip up on the governments side, but similar to alcohol, now that we've had it we won't give it up. But that's just an opinion I don't have many facts to back up.

As to why other psychedelics remain illegal, there are a few reasons.

I'd say first and foremost, it's because more potent psychedelics can be a lot more frightening. For example, I haven't really heard of anyone killing themselves or having a psychotic break on marijuana, although I can think of a few cases with LSD and Mushrooms, rare as they may be.

Another main reason is because the government knows what psychedelics do, they did extensive testing with LSD in the 50's, and what they found was that they open you up to the idea that everything you know to be true is wrong. Now to me, this sounds like an amazing effect, but the job of a government is to uphold the social structure of a society, often using the ignorance and the predetermined beliefs of the average person to achieve this, which is why it makes sense they might fear a substance that appears to make people question everything, including authority.

Lastly, I'd say they are having a lot of trouble becoming legal because of the massive amount of misinformation surrounding them, there are many, many people who don't know anything about psychedelics, and depending where they go to learn, they could be taught that they are dangerous substances, that can break your brain and make you mentally ill, however marijuana dodged most of this misinformation, because to the inexperienced user, it doesn't seem to be a psychedelic.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Carbonobo]
    #22373635 - 10/13/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not so long ago, before the internet, if you wanted to know anything about psychedellics you had to ask someone who knew, dug up some sketchy books, or tried them yourselves.

We'll get there, don't give up hope :smile:
If the government cracks down hard on mushrooms, like way harder than on cocaine for example, and people can just download how to grow their own mushrooms... well I think the genie is already out of the bottle :wink:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373636 - 10/13/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My tolerance is definitely lower than yours no doubt haha. I do not believe in any supernatural or really any spiritual stuff either. What I mean as profound is that single smoking sessions have completely changed my way of sober thinking. As far as the hallucinations, I haven't been shown any 'divine' stuff or at least I didn't take it for anything beyond face value. That is I saw it as I saw it, I didn't interpret it to mean anything other than 'the wall is melting' or 'Oh, it looks like I'm in water'.:eek:




Ah, okay, that I can relate to from my earlier days.
The whole thing seemed so different to me that it felt necessary to ask. :lol:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373644 - 10/13/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is like the baby drug of drugs...that is why

Of course, if all you've tried is weed... which I assume OP has never taken any other drug if he thinks weed is hard




Okay, my question is why do you think weed is such a weak drug. Because I've had some crazy trips on it I would like to know what makes it so popular when other drugs that are similar in effect are so taboo still in mainstream society.

I have taken drugs considered much 'harder' than weed, but I still stand by my point that weed is the real deal and very strong.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373659 - 10/13/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What do you mean why?

Because I can smoke weed all day and laugh it off

Or I could not smoke weed for a year and take a hit and laugh it off

But I can't take a few hits of LSD and just laugh it off

I can't take a lot of mushrooms and just laugh it off

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373661 - 10/13/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's the mindset, I think.
They see it, as I saw it, as a drug to get all lazy and giggly with your friends, so that is what happened.
After using for some time, you'll see mama Ganja's real face, and SHE. IS. BEAUTIFUL!


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Carbonobo]
    #22373697 - 10/13/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I honestly think the legalization of marijuana was kind of a slip up on the governments side, but similar to alcohol, now that we've had it we won't give it up. But that's just an opinion I don't have many facts to back up.

As to why other psychedelics remain illegal, there are a few reasons.

I'd say first and foremost, it's because more potent psychedelics can be a lot more frightening. For example, I haven't really heard of anyone killing themselves or having a psychotic break on marijuana, although I can think of a few cases with LSD and Mushrooms, rare as they may be.

Another main reason is because the government knows what psychedelics do, they did extensive testing with LSD in the 50's, and what they found was that they open you up to the idea that everything you know to be true is wrong. Now to me, this sounds like an amazing effect, but the job of a government is to uphold the social structure of a society, often using the ignorance and the predetermined beliefs of the average person to achieve this, which is why it makes sense they might fear a substance that appears to make people question everything, including authority.

Lastly, I'd say they are having a lot of trouble becoming legal because of the massive amount of misinformation surrounding them, there are many, many people who don't know anything about psychedelics, and depending where they go to learn, they could be taught that they are dangerous substances, that can break your brain and make you mentally ill, however marijuana dodged most of this misinformation, because to the inexperienced user, it doesn't seem to be a psychedelic.




My buddy for a bit had to stop smoking due to the fact that he said when he smoked he got real pannic attacks from not being able to think. He said he'd go to think a thought and nothing would happen :stoned2:, haha. I don't think this is a psychotic break but I do think heavy marijuana use effects the brain.

I agree that the government made a mistake in legalizing cannabis, as far as their own interests go. I think weed can be just as mind expanding as LSD. I am just surprised how cannabis has managed to get soooo far ahead of the others in terms of being accepted you know?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373706 - 10/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373722 - 10/13/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you mean why?

Because I can smoke weed all day and laugh it off

Or I could not smoke weed for a year and take a hit and laugh it off

But I can't take a few hits of LSD and just laugh it off

I can't take a lot of mushrooms and just laugh it off

...etc etc




Yeah that's what I was looking for. But your reasoning is kind of odd, you say you can take a hit of weed (pretty small dose) and laugh it off, then you compare that to a lot of shrooms or a few hits of lsd...

A lot of shrooms or a few hits of lsd is a big dose, of course you aren't gonna be having the same experience. Now if you were to compare a micro or small dose of lsd (10-30ug) to a hit of weed that'd be a lot closer.


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    #22373739 - 10/13/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm comparing strong doses of weed to strong doses of other substances.

Even at my most fucked moments when I just took a massive rip or something, I'm still fine and can laugh it off.

Can't say the same for alcohol, speed, opiates, LSD, mushrooms, dissociative or any other drug.

So yes. Weed is very weak in comparison.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373752 - 10/13/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373807 - 10/13/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.




I feel like you are trying to convince me LSD is just as safe as weed. I dont disagree with that, I'm pointing out the positive effects of weed and reasons why its so popular.

I also said the reason psychedelics aren't as popular is because they are misunderstood. Thats why I said they are hard to OD on, fun, etc.

You cannot, however, trip on one substance more than a couple of times in a short period. You WILL build up a tolerance to the substance to the point that it takes a huge amount of it to make you trip. This isn't the case with weed, you can smoke it daily for weeks and still get high off like 10 dollars worth.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373825 - 10/13/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP, are you 13?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373832 - 10/13/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And I can point out the reason that psychedelics are misunderstood. I personally feel like some psychedelics are more misunderstood than others. Its because of successful government propaganda.

Shit, just the other day I was talking to my friend, who is a total pothead, about psychedelics. He told me he would try shrooms, I said "how about lsd". He told me fuck no, he doesn't want to go crazy. Its all based on ignorance.


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    #22373846 - 10/13/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.




I feel like you are trying to convince me LSD is just as safe as weed. I dont disagree with that, I'm pointing out the positive effects of weed and reasons why its so popular.

I also said the reason psychedelics aren't as popular is because they are misunderstood. Thats why I said they are hard to OD on, fun, etc.

You cannot, however, trip on one substance more than a couple of times in a short period. You WILL build up a tolerance to the substance to the point that it takes a huge amount of it to make you trip. This isn't the case with weed, you can smoke it daily for weeks and still get high off like 10 dollars worth.




Dude, you literally JUST said that "its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday."


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22373848 - 10/13/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, are you 13?



Yeah duder I started smoking at the ripe ol' age of 5..:cool:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373864 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Boom, I sure did say that. I also posted, in that same post, in the same line, that you still can get high, just not incredibly high. Ten dollars gets what, a gram of high grade? 2 grams of high mid? Thats enough to get most everyone high, unless you are into concentrates.

And before you try to say "but you said this isnt the case with weed", i guess i could of worded my post a little differently. 10 dollars will get someone with no tolerance high a few times, so I assumed you would understand that I took tolerance into account when I posted "you can still get high off like 10 dollars worth". I meant one high. Thats still doesnt compare to the fact that it takes immense amounts of psychedelics to trip at all once you have built up a tolerance...


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    #22373865 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm comparing strong doses of weed to strong doses of other substances.

Even at my most fucked moments when I just took a massive rip or something, I'm still fine and can laugh it off.

Can't say the same for alcohol, speed, opiates, LSD, mushrooms, dissociative or any other drug.

So yes. Weed is very weak in comparison.




I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same, I'd say the cannabis probably would be stronger. It is about dosage, 500ug of shrooms wouldn't do shit, yet the same amount of lsd...

I will concede that cannabis probably tops out in trip lvl lower than lsd or shrooms (the other drugs you mentioned aren't psychs and I have no interest in, that's why I specified psychs in the OP) but I know for at least myself I can get pretty damn far out on weed.


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    #22373868 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think the only problem I have currently is that the medical stuff is pretty strong. I've already fainted twice here in Colorado from smoking and being a bit dehydrated. I don't know, I don't find weed THAT strong, except when I started smoking. People just need to chill. They be smokin' too many blunts and then complain when they forget everything, spend all their money on cheap food, and sleep for 12 hours.



hah, i also have fainted twice in colorado since moving here. once on the bus!

i don't think it's just from the weed, the air is very dry here. i've smoked for years but never fainted outside of colorado. when i was brought to the ER they said it was dehydration

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    #22373874 - 10/13/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.


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    #22373878 - 10/13/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Boom, I sure did say that. I also posted, in that same post, in the same line, that you still can get high, just not incredibly high. Ten dollars gets what, a gram of high grade? 2 grams of high mid? Thats enough to get most everyone high, unless you are into concentrates.

And before you try to say "but you said this isnt the case with weed", i guess i could of worded my post a little differently. 10 dollars will get someone with no tolerance high a few times, so I assumed you would understand that I took tolerance into account when I posted "you can still get high off like 10 dollars worth". I meant one high. Thats still doesnt compare to the fact that it takes immense amounts of psychedelics to trip at all once you have build up a tolerance...




You're reiterating my point, that LSD could be a daily drug because of tolerance or because of microdosing...You're agreeing with me lol.

And same goes the other way, 10 bucks of lsd can get someone without any tolerance real out there.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373883 - 10/13/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same





~.1g is enough to get most people high... so if you want to do a real comparison, compare what 10 grams of shrooms would do compared 1g...

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    #22373888 - 10/13/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.



driving sleep deprived or while angry is actually worse


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    #22373890 - 10/13/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.




My point was that for both their is a point where it is more dangerous th
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I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same





~.1g is enough to get most people high... so if you want to do a real comparison, compare what 10 grams of shrooms would do compared 1g...

Yeah... your mind would be FUCKED




10g of shrooms compared to 1g of what? Not sure if a statement of question or what you are even trying to say here.


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    #22373895 - 10/13/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This thread man... :popcorn:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373896 - 10/13/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, you are misunderstanding my point. My point is that, you can dose on weed everyday and still get high. After a few weeks it may cost a little more and be less intense, but you still will feel a high from it. With L, you can trip maybe 3 days in a row, and by the third day you will have a sky high tolerance. If you want to even trip a little, your going to have to take way more.

Its not about the fact that tripping is still possible, after a few weeks of daily dosing its going to be ridiculously expensive to keep tripping. you could continue to dose at a regular level, and be a functional, daily lsd user. But what fun is that without the effects?

With weed, after a few weeks, its relatively inexpensive to keep dosing and you still will feel high.

I dont know how much more plainly I can put it. And am honestly confused how a discussion about the popularity of a drug turned into a discussion about the potential of two drugs for daily use.


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    #22373898 - 10/13/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This thread man... :popcorn:




People just take all my threads as some personal attack it seems, and don't even answer the original questions I pose. They read the title then just go right off to some tangential post.


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    #22373909 - 10/13/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics :shrug:


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    #22373910 - 10/13/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think he is just trolling now

Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea

wtf

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    #22373916 - 10/13/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.



driving sleep deprived or while angry is actually worse




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    #22373929 - 10/13/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, you are misunderstanding my point. My point is that, you can dose on weed everyday and still get high. After a few weeks it may cost a little more and be less intense, but you still will feel a high from it. With L, you can trip maybe 3 days in a row, and by the third day you will have a sky high tolerance. If you want to even trip a little, your going to have to take way more.

Its not about the fact that tripping is still possible, after a few weeks of daily dosing its going to be ridiculously expensive to keep tripping. you could continue to dose at a regular level, and be a functional, daily lsd user. But what fun is that without the effects?

With weed, after a few weeks, its relatively inexpensive to keep dosing and you still will feel high.

I dont know how much more plainly I can put it.




What you are saying:

You can smoke everyday and have an effect? Yes. Can you have profound trip like highs that I talk about everyday from weed, I really really doubt it. Maybe a few days in a row before you have to smoke a shit ton to achieve that super high.
I agree with you dude.

What I am saying though is:

You can microdose LSD everyday and have an effect? Yes, hoffman did this. Can you have profound trips everyday on LSD? I really really doubt it.  Maybe a few days in a row before you have to smoke, I mean dose, a shit ton to achieve that super trip.

Sounds pretty identical to me. What do you not agree with?


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    #22373936 - 10/13/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics :shrug:



And thank you for actually answering, I appreciate it. I should have specified that most people seem to take it as a personal attack. The discussion I'm having with you is awesome.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373938 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The two tolerances are completely different.


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    #22373939 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with that. you win :shrug: :lol:

Anyway, I dont think most of the general population understands microdosing anyway. Thats why I was arguing the concept of not being able to have a full blown trip everyday, vs being able to get high everyday. Most of the 20 something year olds would probably smoke weed daily, and trip on occassion. Thats why i feel that weed would be/is more popular than psycedelics.


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    #22373955 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think he is just trolling now

Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea

wtf

damnit its a troll



Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.

Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.


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    #22373961 - 10/13/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I agree with that. you win :shrug: :lol:




It was never a competition or debate, just a discussion about the OP. Thanks for your input.


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    #22374002 - 10/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I take everything as a debate, helps me put more thought behind my post :lol:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374015 - 10/13/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think he is just trolling now

Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea

wtf

damnit its a troll



Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.

Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.




You must be trolling me or you are the biggest noob ever.

.1g of cannabis will get you high which is OBVIOUSLY what I was referring to since I quoted your post.

1g of shrooms can fluctuate between nothing to a medium-strong dose.

You are comparing the dose of 10x the dose needed to get high on cannabis so I obviously made it 10x the dose of mushrooms for 1g->10g and .1g->1g

Not enuf facepalms, bruh.


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    #22374074 - 10/13/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics :shrug:



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I think he is just trolling now

Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea

wtf

damnit its a troll



Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.

Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.




You must be trolling me or you are the biggest noob ever.

.1g of cannabis will get you high which is OBVIOUSLY what I was referring to since I quoted your post.

1g of shrooms can fluctuate between nothing to a medium-strong dose.

You are comparing the dose of 10x the dose needed to get high on cannabis so I obviously made it 10x the dose of mushrooms for 1g->10g and .1g->1g

Not enuf facepalms, bruh.




You've completely missed my point. Let me explain again.
I say Weed, LSD, Shrooms, DMT, etc... they are all strong drugs in my opinion. I ask why is it that weed is considered acceptable or 'soft'.

You answer that it is soft because you can take a hit of it and laugh it off, but taking "a lot of shrooms" wouldn't be as easy. I totally agree with this, this is obvious.

What I am saying is that doses differ, and that minimal and maximum effective doses differ. Comparing shrooms and wed at the low end, say 1g, weed is probably stronger, if you increase dose linearly shrooms will soon be stronger, probably around 2-3g. BUT that doesn't mean you can't smoke/eat/dab enough weed to achieve a similar effect as lets say 5g of shrooms, it will be a lot more yes, but still possible.

Which brings us back to you saying that weed is 'soft'. If a 5g shroom dose can be achieved with a 200ug LSD dose does that mean shrooms are 'soft'? I don't think so. And just as if you can achieve a 15g cannabis dose with 5g of shrooms that doesn't make weed 'soft'.


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    #22374084 - 10/13/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

1 gram of weed is not a light dose if you smoked that yourself all in one quick sitting. Especially through bong rips or something and ESPECIALLY if you had a low tolerance. You'd just be mind fucked.

what the fuck are you talking about? That's like going balls to the walls of smoking weed.

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
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I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.



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because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?




Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374131 - 10/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1 gram of weed is not a light dose if you smoked that yourself all in one quick sitting. Especially through bong rips or something and ESPECIALLY if you had a low tolerance. You'd just be mind fucked.

what the fuck are you talking about? That's like going balls to the walls of smoking weed.

:facepalm:




Sorry, explained it as simply as I could. You either didn't read it or read it and still went back to your comment on weed being strong at 1g. Either way you aren't worth the time.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22374136 - 10/13/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ShortbusExplosion said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
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Turtletotem said:
I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.



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SaltyPeaks said:
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ShortbusExplosion said:
because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?




Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having
full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.




You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.

Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374139 - 10/13/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well... you think you can smoke enough weed to get the same effects of 5 grams of mushrooms so.... I can safely say you're a noob who has clearly never used drugs before :lol:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22374162 - 10/13/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ShortbusExplosion said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
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Turtletotem said:
I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.



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SaltyPeaks said:
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ShortbusExplosion said:
because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?




Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having
full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.




Maybe I've had laced stuff a couple times, but every sack I've ever bought has lent to at least 1 trip like experience. Because my infrequent smoking and because I usually buy quads or bigger I rarely get it from the same dealer. I also have smoked some right off the plant, and same deal, very high, trippy experience.

As far as cannabis coming into the mainstream I understand how it happened, it just surprises me that other psychs were left in the dust, especially when you look back and see that in the 60s weed and lsd were both considered evil and hated by the mainstream pretty equally.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374166 - 10/13/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well... you think you can smoke enough weed to get the same effects of 5 grams of mushrooms so.... I can safely say you're a noob who has clearly never used drugs before :lol:



Yep, thanks for your input.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374177 - 10/13/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No problem. I like to let people who have obviously never used mushrooms before that they are in fact very potent psychedelics and you shouldn't be fooled, they aren't all fun and games.


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    #22374190 - 10/13/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374192 - 10/13/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?




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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] * 1
    #22374199 - 10/13/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.

Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.


Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia



I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,


Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ? :stoned2:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22374203 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ShortbusExplosion said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
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Turtletotem said:
I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.



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SaltyPeaks said:
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ShortbusExplosion said:
because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?




Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having
full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.




You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.

Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.



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xbloodwhipx said:
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ShortbusExplosion said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
Quote:

Turtletotem said:
I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.

Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.




This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.



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SaltyPeaks said:
Quote:

ShortbusExplosion said:
because its a soft drug. when I say soft
drug I mean it basically does no physical
damage to the body and is not physically
addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.

Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol
and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.




Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?




Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having
full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.




You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.

Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.




Level 3 Trip:
"Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved and/or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or "mother of pearl" surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusion of the senses (i.e. seeing sounds as colors, etcetera). Time distortions and "moments of eternity"

I have no doubt I have reached this point with cannabis, and not just through edibles but by smoking flower. I can't say that all were happening at once, but I have had sessions where all, including synesthesia happened. As far as level 4, I have had some fleeting moments of, but wouldn't say I have achieved.

That said, I really have never done a heroic amount of smoking in one session (most was probably about 3-4g), I have taken about a quad via edible.

As I said before I am sure I have a low tolerance from infrequent use, but I also ive an exceptionally healthy lifestyle and eat well which probably helps. For the past year I usually have 3-4 fruit and one of those bag salads you can just shake up in the package then eat for when I get the munchies. Feels great not just pounding junk food, and actually tastes better IMO.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374208 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374214 - 10/13/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No problem. I like to let people who have obviously never used mushrooms before that they are in fact very potent psychedelics and you shouldn't be fooled, they aren't all fun and games.




I get it, you're like an uber shaman psychonaut that really has all the info.


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    #22374223 - 10/13/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nope. No shaman here. Just a regular dude who has used a plethora of drugs and know the difference between being high and losing your fucking mind


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374234 - 10/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So your healthy lifestyle makes you trip like you're on LSD or shrooms when you smoke pot?



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    #22374244 - 10/13/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yah brah. Didn't you know eating salad and fruit gives you +3 trip level, bro?


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    #22374262 - 10/13/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.

Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.


Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia



I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,


Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ? :stoned2:



Haha, no I wish. I have smoked DMT and salvia, taken LSD, shrooms, and morning glory seeds. I would agree that DMTs effects are much much more potent than cannabis, I would say that their ability to alter the way you view the world is much more comparable though. I think too much emphasis is put on what you see or physically feel. Just because both DMT and alcohol is frequently consumed to the point of loosing the ability to see doesn't mean they should be held at the same level. I would think that it is how the mind is effected matters more, maybe not right at that moment but definitely in the long term. That is how I find it easy to compare DMT to cannabis, although I do admit DMT is probably the farthest away from cannabis of the hallucinogens I've tried.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22374275 - 10/13/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.

Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.


Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia



I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,


Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ? :stoned2:




You're missing out. I get some pretty sick CEVs when i smoke, and a slighlty different perception of reality. :awehigh:

I used to get cartoon vision and warped objects but that rarely happens to me anymore sadly.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374277 - 10/13/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yah brah. Didn't you know eating salad and fruit gives you +3 trip level, bro?




Do I think having a low body fat percentage and fast metabolism, both attainable from a healthy diet and lifestyle, increases the high from cannabis? Yeah, and I think anyone with half a brain would agree.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374291 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So please explain the biochemistry behind cannabis and more specifically the cannabinoids and how it interacts with your endogenous system of cannabinoids and their receptors if you are so brilliant.

which has nothing to do with metabolism or low body fat content(BTW)

But hey, kids will be kids and spout out nonsense.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374294 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP, since when are LSD and Mushrooms "hard drugs"

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    #22374298 - 10/13/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, since when are LSD and Mushrooms "hard drugs"

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374311 - 10/13/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So please explain the biochemistry behind cannabis and more specifically the cannabinoids and how it interacts with your endogenous system of cannabinoids and their receptors if you are so brilliant.

which has nothing to do with metabolism or low body fat content(BTW)

But hey, kids will be kids and spout out nonsense.



It's true, I am not a cannabis scientist, but I highly doubt you are either. What I do know is thc is stored in fat, and if you have very little fat it will stay in the blood, making it to the brain, and getting you high. As far as a fast metabolism means that, especially when eating edibles, the weed makes it through your system faster. Just as smoking 1g quick gets you higher than smoking 1g over the course of the day.


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    #22374321 - 10/13/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, since when are LSD and Mushrooms "hard drugs"

:lolwut:



Never said they were in the OP or this entire thread.

Also my original questions were "My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?"

I think the first one makes it clear that I put cannabis right in with other psychs.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374328 - 10/13/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First off, Weed is not a psychedelic.

Go do some real drugs, then come back. I think you'll have a better grasp on the situation then.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374331 - 10/13/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?




I don't know, man, as I've only been smoking weed for 46 years. I can go days / weeks without partaking & don't feel bad in the least. Look at how many deaths have been attributed to booze & cigs...hundreds of thousands. Weed? 0! Weed is my all-time favorite relaxing substance...or if toking a sativa, the best energizer of anything.
As for psychedelics / hallucinogens, those are difficult maintaining one's composure in any social situation. 1 thing I have noticed, the older I got, the less weed I need for maximum altitude. I'll smoke 2-3 bong ripz & be pleasantly stoned for hours. When I was younger, I could toke all day & evening. Now? Strictly after 9 p.m. & once only.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374343 - 10/13/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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First off, Weed is not a psychedelic.

Go do some real drugs, then come back. I think you'll have a better grasp on the situation then.




Bummed because I can trip on weed?


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    #22374356 - 10/13/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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First off, Weed is not a psychedelic.

Go do some real drugs, then come back. I think you'll have a better grasp on the situation then.




Bummed because I can trip on weed?




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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374364 - 10/13/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can trip off a handful of benedryl, that doesn't make it a Psychedelic.

Once again, do some real drugs, then you'll understand.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374370 - 10/13/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So please explain the biochemistry behind cannabis and more specifically the cannabinoids and how it interacts with your endogenous system of cannabinoids and their receptors if you are so brilliant.

which has nothing to do with metabolism or low body fat content(BTW)

But hey, kids will be kids and spout out nonsense.



It's true, I am not a cannabis scientist, but I highly doubt you are either. What I do know is thc is stored in fat, and if you have very little fat it will stay in the blood, making it to the brain, and getting you high. As far as a fast metabolism means that, especially when eating edibles, the weed makes it through your system faster. Just as smoking 1g quick gets you higher than smoking 1g over the course of the day.




:rofl:

For one,.... it's metabolites that get stored in fat, not THC. Secondly, your metabolism has nothing to do with your cannabinoid receptors. Thirdly...you just keep talking out of your ass, bitter cactus


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    #22374376 - 10/13/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: squidhead]
    #22374379 - 10/13/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?




I don't know, man, as I've only been smoking weed for 46 years. I can go days / weeks without partaking & don't feel bad in the least. Look at how many deaths have been attributed to booze & cigs...hundreds of thousands. Weed? 0! Weed is my all-time favorite relaxing substance...or if toking a sativa, the best energizer of anything.
As for psychedelics / hallucinogens, those are difficult maintaining one's composure in any social situation. 1 thing I have noticed, the older I got, the less weed I need for maximum altitude. I'll smoke 2-3 bong ripz & be pleasantly stoned for hours. When I was younger, I could toke all day & evening. Now? Strictly after 9 p.m. & once only.





I agree completely that weed is safer than booze and cigs, I think both are pretty awful. I also think that daily cannabis is fine, but I also think daily use of a substance like lsd is also fine. I think both could be used infrequently and you can achieve profound trips, obviously in different ways, but a lot of similarities too.

My question is more about why do you think weed has managed to slip into the mainstream, well the other psychedelics haven't been able to. I think lsd could be legal, people could use it in very much the same way daily smokers use cannabis, in small frequent doses throughout the day or just once a day, and it could be perfectly acceptable. As with daily tokers they wouldn't exhibit obvious signs and could function just fine. So why hasn't that happened like it has with weed? That is my main question.


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    #22374385 - 10/13/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm starting to doubt that you've ever taken LSD


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374399 - 10/13/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I can trip off a handful of benedryl, that doesn't make it a Psychedelic.

Once again, do some real drugs, then you'll understand.




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Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic. I know from personal experience cannabis does, so yes, I consider is a psychedelic.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374412 - 10/13/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm starting to doubt that you've ever taken LSD




Ok? I recently wrote a trip report about my first LSD experience called "A Sunday Afternoon" you're welcome to read it. And before you say "FIRST TIME, WHAT A NOOB!!11" the report is of an experience from years ago.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374426 - 10/13/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you took a hit of LSD one time and now you're the headspokesman for drugs

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374442 - 10/13/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: Whatever you say, dude. I can see that there's no getting through your :underage: head.

When you grow up and take some drugs, you'll see what I'm talkin' about.


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    #22374446 - 10/13/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Like shit

When this kid does a k-hole for his first time he is gonna shit his pants thinking weed is hard


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374455 - 10/13/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So you took a hit of LSD one time and now you're the headspokesman for drugs

oh boy



So first you keep bitching to me about how I'm not as experienced as your holiness, then I kindly explain that, yes, in fact I have used the substances that I a taking about. I stated this in no way that it could be taken as me bragging or holding it over you, but you somehow manage to take it that way...

Just can't please you I guess.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374460 - 10/13/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP, don't listen to the haters.

As for the reason why weed has made it's way into the mainstream whereas other psychedelics haven't, it's probably because weed is far more habit forming. It lasts nowhere near as long too. Most people enjoy it.

You seem unusually sensitive to weed, keep in mind most people don't see everything turn red from smoking some ganja.


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    #22374461 - 10/13/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah you are obviously talking out of your ass lmfao

I mean only a true noob would think THC actually gets stored in fat lmao

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374469 - 10/13/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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brah did u know that LSD stays in ur spinal cord 2?




And every time you pop your back you get thrown into a full level-5 trip!

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    #22374473 - 10/13/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol: Whatever you say, dude. I can see that there's no getting through your :underage: head.

When you grow up and take some drugs, you'll see what I'm talkin' about.




Like I explained, I have experienced the substances that I talk about.

Also, I never see myself getting a tall enough pedestal to go around telling other to "grow up and take some drugs, you'll see what I'm talkin' about."


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374475 - 10/13/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah you are obviously talking out of your ass lmfao

I mean only a true noob would think THC actually gets stored in fat lmao

brah did u know that LSD stays in ur spinal cord 2?



I'm pretty sure THC actually does stay stored in your fat for a while. That's why you can fail drug tests for a long time after smoking weed, whereas with other drugs they're typically cleared out of your system within a few days. That's not to say that it gets you high when you burn the fat or whatever though.


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    #22374479 - 10/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

K holing is werd.


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    #22374488 - 10/13/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah you are obviously talking out of your ass lmfao

I mean only a true noob would think THC actually gets stored in fat lmao

brah did u know that LSD stays in ur spinal cord 2?



I'm pretty sure THC actually does stay stored in your fat for a while. That's why you can fail drug tests for a long time after smoking weed, whereas with other drugs they're typically cleared out of your system within a few days. That's not to say that it gets you high when you burn the fat or whatever though.



That would be its metabolites (i spell that right?).


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374506 - 10/13/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah you are obviously talking out of your ass lmfao

I mean only a true noob would think THC actually gets stored in fat lmao

brah did u know that LSD stays in ur spinal cord 2?



I never claimed that because my lifestyle or diet is the definitive reason I experience such strong cannabis trips, what I said was that it could be the cause. I explained my reasoning, whether or not it is correct does not take away the fact that I experience cannabis very strongly, and think many others do too.

I will read up a bit on it and get back to you, but for the time being I don't see the point of you getting so bent out of shape just because I can have profound experiences on cannabis?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374512 - 10/13/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I guess the reason is because LSD can make one's perception of reality difficult to maintain. It's extremely hard to know what dose you can take to still deal with situations in society.
With weed, you can judge it by the amount of tokes a person takes to get to their preferred altitude. LSD is measured so miniscule...you'd be hard-pressed to know exactly what dosage to consume & not laugh at stupid shit.
LSD & weed are like apples & oranges...almost impossible to compare the 2.


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    #22374526 - 10/13/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hate to be the guy just posting links to prove my point, but this seems pretty interesting and is easy to read. It pulls from legit published studies though so I think it is reputable. Worth a look http://wellspring-collective.com/marijuana-and-exercise/


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374556 - 10/13/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hate to be the guy just posting links to prove my point, but this seems pretty interesting and is easy to read. It pulls from legit published studies though so I think it is reputable. Worth a look http://wellspring-collective.com/marijuana-and-exercise/




How does that "prove your point"? :lol:

Do you even have a point?


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    #22374561 - 10/13/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like how he says its a legit site but it cites nothing and links nothing to the source of all these "facts"....he did what, a 2 minute google search probably?

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    #22374573 - 10/13/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I guess the reason is because LSD can make one's perception of reality difficult to maintain. It's extremely hard to know what dose you can take to still deal with situations in society.
With weed, you can judge it by the amount of tokes a person takes to get to their preferred altitude. LSD is measured so miniscule...you'd be hard-pressed to know exactly what dosage to consume & not laugh at stupid shit.
LSD & weed are like apples & oranges...almost impossible to compare the 2.





I agree that the way people use the substances differ a lot. One they take between small and medium doses, sometimes heavy, but rarely enough for most to trip(cannabis). The other they always, or almost always, take the minimum to trip(lsd).

Is there a dose high enough in both to see visuals, have profound novel thoughts, synesthesia, trippy stuff etc...? I can personally say yes, for both, and although I seem to be more sensitive to cannabis than the average person here, I personally know others who have similar cannabis sensitivity.

Is there a dose small enough to be able to function normally? I think this is an obvious yes, micro dosing lsd with very positive effects is well documented, and cannabis is used this way commonly.

I do see your point that from our human perspective it is waaay easier to dose with cannabis flowers than LSD, and this definitely could be one of the reasons for it's lesser popularity.


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    #22374576 - 10/13/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But, dude, it pulls from legit published studies!

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    #22374582 - 10/13/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hate to be the guy just posting links to prove my point, but this seems pretty interesting and is easy to read. It pulls from legit published studies though so I think it is reputable. Worth a look http://wellspring-collective.com/marijuana-and-exercise/




How does that "prove your point"? :lol:

Do you even have a point?



I was speaking in regards to living a healthy life style increasing cannabis sensitivity.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22374586 - 10/13/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But, dude, it pulls from legit published studies!

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22374600 - 10/13/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hate to be the guy just posting links to prove my point, but this seems pretty interesting and is easy to read. It pulls from legit published studies though so I think it is reputable. Worth a look http://wellspring-collective.com/marijuana-and-exercise/




How does that "prove your point"? :lol:

Do you even have a point?



I was speaking in regards to living a healthy life style increasing cannabis sensitivity.




So that's the point of your drivel? Because I couldn't figure out what you were ranting on about. :lol:


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    #22374607 - 10/13/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol, ibprofen and cigs are arguably a lot more dangerous when taken everyday in comparison to weed.

I get genuinely worried for my health if I have to take tylenol heavily for any extended periods of time - people don't realize how terrible that stuff is on your liver and stomach lining.


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lol, ibprofen and cigs are arguably a lot more dangerous when taken everyday in comparison to weed.

I get genuinely worried for my health if I have to take tylenol heavily for any extended periods of time - people don't realize how terrible that stuff is on your liver and stomach lining.




I agree completely that both are more dangerous than cannabis, that is why I was asking why do many people seem to treat them the same?


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    #22374753 - 10/13/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Because although you can (kind of) "trip" on bud, it's nowhere near as potent as other psychedelics.


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    #22374920 - 10/13/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read the rest of this thread, but what do you mean by taken lightly? In terms of danger, weed should be taken very lightly. Its not lethal, and if you get too high, MOST people just fall asleep.

BUT, I do agree with you in that some people view weed as this substance that just provides a little relaxation and chills them out. Thats really not always the case in my experience. Sometimes thats the way my highs are, especially if I've got a high tolerance, but other times it makes me hyper analytical, and I'll just lay on my couch over-thinking my life and decisions. It's also not something I can always do in social situations. If I'm with a small group of friends and the plan is to just get high, I'm down, but when I'm headed to a crowded party, its terrible. I just end up not talking to anyone and being content with it. So yea, I do feel you OP. I've got some friend that act like weed is perfect in just about every situation, which may be the case for some people/people with very high tolerances. But for others its only good in specific situations. I don't really like smoking weed at concerts. It does make the music sound good but it saps my energy and makes me not wanna groove. But its perfect for afterwards when I head back to someones place to chill.

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    #22375131 - 10/13/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22375258 - 10/13/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.



I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.


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I didn't read the rest of this thread, but what do you mean by taken lightly? In terms of danger, weed should be taken very lightly. Its not lethal, and if you get too high, MOST people just fall asleep.

BUT, I do agree with you in that some people view weed as this substance that just provides a little relaxation and chills them out. Thats really not always the case in my experience. Sometimes thats the way my highs are, especially if I've got a high tolerance, but other times it makes me hyper analytical, and I'll just lay on my couch over-thinking my life and decisions. It's also not something I can always do in social situations. If I'm with a small group of friends and the plan is to just get high, I'm down, but when I'm headed to a crowded party, its terrible. I just end up not talking to anyone and being content with it. So yea, I do feel you OP. I've got some friend that act like weed is perfect in just about every situation, which may be the case for some people/people with very high tolerances. But for others its only good in specific situations. I don't really like smoking weed at concerts. It does make the music sound good but it saps my energy and makes me not wanna groove. But its perfect for afterwards when I head back to someones place to chill.

I just view psychoactive substances as tools. Each tools got a different purpose, and some are better in certain scenarios than others




Thanks for the input, I definitely agree with a lot of what you said.


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    #22375285 - 10/13/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody is saying they don't find pleasure in marijuana. :lol:


We're trying to explain to you that there is a very different experience going on when comparing weed or even edibles to a dose of LSD or shrooms, or DMT


At this point I'm starting to think you're a troll, or possibly even a pre created bitter cactus puppet


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22375313 - 10/13/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.



I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.




Wow! Are you really this dense or are you trolling?


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I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.




Wow! Are you really this dense or are you trolling?



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    #22375345 - 10/13/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.



I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.




Wow! Are you really this dense or are you trolling?



AHHH! Ya got me, I'm trolling...

But seriously, why does it offend you so greatly that I am able to have such great experiences on cannabis?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Mescalean]
    #22375362 - 10/13/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.




I understand where your coming from, but part of me still disagrees. I've had very intense trips, including one breakthrough mushroom trip that was probably the most mentally scarring trip I've ever had. But that doesn't matter. I'm not arguing that acid or weed is more intense. My argument is that weed has the capability of producing a very intense uncomfortable experience. There was one occasion in particular where I hadn't smoked in months. I decided to take a rip from a bong packed with some medical grade sativa from colorado. I swear, I experienced the most uncomfortable sense of depersonalization, it was absolutely horrific. It was different than what I experience when taking higher doses of psychedelics, you experience ego-death. By that point, I'm not even sure, "what is". But this was different. There was just this horrific feeling in the pit of my stomach and it felt as if I had been removed from my body and was forced to watch myself fuck my life up or something. It's difficult to describe. All I'm saying is, I don't think weed should be discounted when it comes to its its ability to produce intense experience.


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    #22375368 - 10/13/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nobody is saying they don't find pleasure in marijuana. :lol:


We're trying to explain to you that there is a very different experience going on when comparing weed or even edibles to a dose of LSD or shrooms, or DMT


At this point I'm starting to think you're a troll, or possibly even a pre created bitter cactus puppet


:shrug:



I have no idea what, other than a plant, is a bitter cactus.:shrug:
I have explained multiple times how I compare cannabis to LSD/DMT/Shrooms etc. I would agree at first they seem very different than cannabis, but also very different from each other. What links them, in my opinion, is their ability to expand the mind, and change the way your sober mind functions. As far as obvious effects: hallucinations, synesthesia, dissociation, etc. I have expeirenced most if not all on cannabis to vary degrees.


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    #22375454 - 10/13/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.



I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.





Wow! Are you really this dense or are you trolling?



AHHH! Ya got me, I'm trolling...

But seriously, why does it offend you so greatly that I am able to have such great experiences on cannabis?





You obviously didn't get the jist of what I was saying. The people who "freak out" from bud = pussy shit.

For a group of people who supposedly drop so much acid and RC's some of you are babies when it comes to bud. This is coming from someone who can eat a 6 gram medical grade cookie with a gram of scissor hash added and go run errands during the day. WEAK SHIT SHROOMERY WEAK SHIT.


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:stonedjerk: Yaay you have a stupid high tolerance.  Wanna measure our cocks side by side while we're at it?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Mescalean]
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You obviously didn't get the jist of what I was saying. The people who "freak out" from bud = pussy shit.

For a group of people who supposedly drop so much acid and RC's some of you are babies when it comes to bud. This is coming from someone who can eat a 6 gram medical grade cookie with a gram of scissor hash added and go run errands during the day. WEAK SHIT SHROOMERY WEAK SHIT.




Some people have a low tolerance to bud. That doesn't make em mentally weak, and feeling too high doesn't either. But if you decide to freak out, you're a pussy. Keep it to yourself, put on some music and watch tv until you come down a little. Most of the time if your a person who freaks out, just think about your situation. Probably in a room with friends or alone, where you arent in any danger. Realize the feeling will go away, and you can turn "too high" into "stoned as fuck".


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22375968 - 10/13/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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Mescalean said:
Personally I think those who can't handle weed are weak consciously. After 5 hits of good acid or a breakthrough mushroom trip a 6 gram cookie isn't jack shit.

Bunch of softies.



I would like to think having an open mind, healthy life style, and probably more sensitive receptors make cannabis so strong to me. But if you think you're to hard for weed after doing lsd, so be it, that's your loss. I personally find a lot of pleasure in both.




Wow! Are you really this dense or are you trolling?



AHHH! Ya got me, I'm trolling...

But seriously, why does it offend you so greatly that I am able to have such great experiences on cannabis?




If you have great experiences with Marijuana, that's awesome. That's what it's all about. That still doesn't make it a Psychedelic.


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    #22375978 - 10/13/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He said Benadryl can be considered psychedelic

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22375990 - 10/13/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I tried playing that benadryl jerk of game. You just wake up with your dick glued to your best friend. BS game.


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He said Benadryl can be considered psychedelic

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    #22376121 - 10/13/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
He said Benadryl can be considered psychedelic

At this point my troll-a-meter is off the charts




Good point :lol:



I definitely did not, can you not read? I said if it fits the definition of a psychedelic then yes it could be considered one, I've never done it and doubt it does, but you have so that would be you fitting it to the definition and calling it one, not me.


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    #22376162 - 10/13/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

As far as weed being a psychedelic, by the definition I gave it is. Also a quick search around here or google and you will find most agree. I am interested in how you define what a psychedelic drug is?


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    #22376176 - 10/13/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to eat 14 grams worth of edibles and see whats up with this psychedelic shit because i call horse shit


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    #22376263 - 10/13/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm going to eat 14 grams worth of edibles and see whats up with this psychedelic shit because i call horse shit



If you have gotten to the point a 6g edible is a light high I don't think taking more is the answer to having a stronger experience. I'd say take a long t-break, from all mind altering substances if you really want to feel the full effect.


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He said Benadryl can be considered psychedelic

At this point my troll-a-meter is off the charts




Good point :lol:



I definitely did not, can you not read? I said if it fits the definition of a psychedelic then yes it could be considered one, I've never done it and doubt it does, but you have so that would be you fitting it to the definition and calling it one, not me.




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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22378304 - 10/14/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bitter cactus is his first language :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22378327 - 10/14/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Their debating styles are very similar :lol: But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #22378366 - 10/14/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You mean like.... completely ignore all logic, forget everything he said before... and then act like we're all the dumbasses?

Yeah, that shit gets old quick. I think he could very well be bitter cactus, this guy just appears out of nowhere after bitter is banned.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22378437 - 10/14/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Their debating styles are very similar :lol: But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.



I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22378479 - 10/14/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Their debating styles are very similar :lol: But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.



I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.



No one's getting bent out of shape. You're just ranting about nonsense.

as far the definition of Psychedelic, yours is wrong. "A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception, typically by agonising serotonin receptors". So, sorry, Benadryl isn't a Psychedelic.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22378557 - 10/14/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Their debating styles are very similar :lol: But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.



I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.



No one's getting bent out of shape. You're just ranting about nonsense.

as far the definition of Psychedelic, yours is wrong. "A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception, typically by agonising serotonin receptors". So, sorry, Benadryl isn't a Psychedelic.



Okay, like I clearly stated before, I never said Benadyl was, all I did was give my definition. I've never done benadryl so I have no idea if it cause a psychedelic experience or not.

Also, it seems pretty pretentious of you to think you have the objectively correct definition. Either way I think most would agree that cannabis fits your definition just fine, it is a 5-ht1 agonist, it alters cognition and perception, I doubt even you would disagree with that?  Seems to me your definition is very broad, and encompasses a lot of substance usually not considered psychedelic. It only speaks of altered cognition and perception, not specifically of things like hallucination or consciousness expansion, something usually considered a hallmark of psychedelics.

So many substances, and even just sober experiences can act on serotonin receptors and alter your perception of the world. I mean by your definition, take a B-complex vitamin, take some shots, and read a enlightening book and boom, you just had a psychedelic experience... Kinda silly if you ask me, but its your definition.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22378832 - 10/14/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You've got poppy for pain
Shrooms for the soul
Hasjisj for the healing
Alcohol for the animal
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Lucy for the lost
Music for the melancholic
Coffee for the chronically tired

That's just me, though. Also nicotine but I didn't know how to fit it in, and I don't like it anyway.



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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22378859 - 10/14/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Their debating styles are very similar :lol: But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.



I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.



That's not a psychedelic though, it's technically a deleriant. :shrug:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22378872 - 10/14/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. :nojustno:

Neurochemisty is a funny thing, it doesn't always take exogenious chemicals to produce effects to that of psychedelics.  This is WELL documented.  :stonedjerk:

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22378873 - 10/14/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, you did say that Benadryl was a psychedelic. You said
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Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.




Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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Also, Sleep deprivation causes more realistic hallucinations than anything. Does that make Methamphetamine a psychedelic?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22378896 - 10/14/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. :nojustno:






Not to be a debbie-downer, but... they could be.
From the small lifting of the veil I have experienced, I do not believe they are, but I could be full of shit as well and not even know it! :lol:

Don't be so hard on the guy, man. He's doing his own thing, and that is good too.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #22378936 - 10/14/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not when you're basically shitting on an age old hermetic/esoteric tradition that's been passed down for ages and ages.  Sure he may not believe in it, but to call it "silly" is out-right hogwash. :teabird:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22378942 - 10/14/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is really shit for drug testing though, they can detect it for weeks.


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    #22378944 - 10/14/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Who's to say, man? It could be absoluteley false and deluded. It could be true yet silly at the same time.

Who's to say...


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    #22378955 - 10/14/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I made an almost 60 yo reggae fan happy two days ago by telling him Jamaica legalized cannabis. He visited the nation twice and it was great to see how happy he was for the Jamaicans. :rainbowcloud:

Damn straight. I never been there and stopped smoking herb years ago but even I was stoked for them. Free at last.

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22378956 - 10/14/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Who's to say, man? It could be absoluteley false and deluded. It could be true yet silly at the same time.

Who's to say...




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    #22378963 - 10/14/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah weed is pretty intense for me. It makes me think a lot about shit and that can be a negative thing or a positive thing. Weed is definitively not my idea of trying to relax and get shit off my mind. It's more like "mildly psychedelic makes me think about shit".


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    #22378995 - 10/14/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is my "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" drug. :lol:
I love it, but it's been hurting me lateley. I guess every love affair has to come to an end someday.


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    #22379024 - 10/14/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah i remember one time I smoked so much that my vision was choppy like seeing an image after image after image. Like everything was 1 fps in my field of vision. Also felt like my body was cut in half when I took a bite from a pizza slice. If you dont think weed is a different kind of psychedelic, your tolerance is just really high or you havent smoked a lot of some strong sativa. I mean of course shrooms and lsd are more powerful and way different but imo thc can be pretty psychedelic/dissociative in an unique kind of way.  :jah:


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    #22379034 - 10/14/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Music for the melancholic



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Actually, you did say that Benadryl was a psychedelic. You said
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Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.




Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.

One day, you'll take some real drugs, then you'll understand.



You read that as me saying benedryl is a psych? Your reading comprehension is of a 3rd grader dude. It's a if, then statement. Not a defining statement ya goof.

And then you go right back to pretty much saying "weed isn't a psych because I say so". I can just as easily say it is because I say so. Lucky I don't have to because I clearly stated and showed how for both our definitions it is a psychedelic and produces psychedelic experiences.

Also, I never said anything remotely along the lines of not being able to 'handle' weed. In fact if you read the OP you'd see I've had no issue using it for years. My experiences on cannabis are strong, yes, that has nothing to do with whether or not I 'handle' them lol. Just because someones trips hard on shrooms does that mean they can't 'handle' it? If they have a good time and enjoy it I'd say they not only can handle it but they are doing it right!


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22379097 - 10/14/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. :nojustno:

Neurochemisty is a funny thing, it doesn't always take exogenious chemicals to produce effects to that of psychedelics.  This is WELL documented.  :stonedjerk:

Read a fuckin book. :lol:



Um, nope. Never said anything like that... I definitely think you can have the effects of a psychedelic without any foreign substance.


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    #22379122 - 10/14/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is my "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" drug. :lol:
I love it, but it's been hurting me lateley. I guess every love affair has to come to an end someday.




Definitely have had those highs. It sounds to me though that the "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" is what is hurting, not the cannabis. Try taking a hike, run, or doing some are and toking half way in, don't do it first or you're more liable to sit down and blow off the fun activity.


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    #22379152 - 10/14/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Sleep deprivation causes more realistic hallucinations than anything. Does that make Methamphetamine a psychedelic?



I highly doubt it. It certainly doesn't fit my definition of having a mind expanding quality, and being sleep deprived is a secondary effect not from the molecule so technically meth itself does not cause hallucinations, sleep deprivation does.

Oddly though it fits your definition for a psychedelic...

You've kinda dug yourself into a deep hole, might be best to buzz off to another thread.


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Not when you're basically shitting on an age old hermetic/esoteric tradition that's been passed down for ages and ages.  Sure he may not believe in it, but to call it "silly" is out-right hogwash. :teabird:



Where did I call it silly?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379162 - 10/14/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: Go trip off some weed, lightweight :underage:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379167 - 10/14/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You've kinda dug yourself into a deep hole, might be best to buzz off to another thread.




What "hole" have a dug myself in?

Wow, I really thought I'd never meet anyone stupider on here than AlexStalex, but you win the cake.


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    #22379176 - 10/14/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is really shit for drug testing though, they can detect it for weeks.



No doubt, at first this seems like a mark against it in becoming legal. But also you could see it like this: People all over do all kinds of drugs, including cannabis, but the one that keeps getting people in trouble is weed because its one of the easiest to detect. People could be more inclined to fight for its legalization so that they aren't punished for using. A substance like DMT is extremely hard to detect so far less people feel the need to fight for legalization because no one is getting punished for positive DMT test.


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:lol: Go trip off some weed, lightweight :underage:



Your response are the only thing lightweight here, come up with some real valid points and maybe I'll listen.

So far you responses have been a mixture of "I say so, so it is true", "I can't get that high off weed, can't be true then", and "I've done real drugs, you haven't".

All of these are extremely stupid and point to a very close-minded self centered person.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379199 - 10/14/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Definitely have had those highs. It sounds to me though that the "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" is what is hurting, not the cannabis. Try taking a hike, run, or doing some are and toking half way in, don't do it first or you're more liable to sit down and blow off the fun activity.




Sorry, I guess I didnt explain it right. I do all sorts of things on ganja, especially taking a hike is great, but even cleaning the house works.
The high itself is no problem, I love it. It's the day after that is the problem.
I get up really diffuclt, I'm sluggish until about way in the afternoon, I am less social then I normally I am, and disasciosiatif like crazy.
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    #22379201 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:youseethisshit: 

You should really check out Robert Anton Wilson.  :lolsy:  You're gonna be a funny one.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379205 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol: Go trip off some weed, lightweight :underage:



Your response are the only thing lightweight here, come up with some real valid points and maybe I'll listen.

So far you responses have been a mixture of "I say so, so it is true", "I can't get that high off weed, can't be true then", and "I've done real drugs, you haven't".

All of these are extremely stupid and point to a very close-minded self centered person.




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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379209 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: Whatever you say bro. You're whole argument is "Ermagerd, Weed makes me see colors! Anything that makes you see colors is a psychedelic!"


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    #22379224 - 10/14/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinda silly if you ask me,






That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.

If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.


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    #22379226 - 10/14/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I just read a Terence McKenna book, and he calls weed a mild psychedellic.

Just saying, not that I care, but just saying...


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22379249 - 10/14/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol: Whatever you say bro. You're whole argument is "Ermagerd, Weed makes me see colors! Anything that makes you see colors is a psychedelic!"




Wow, are you seriously this dumb? I clearly defined what a psychedelic is in my opinion. "relating to or denoting drugs that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness."

Also, the reality is that I am not really arguing, all I'm doing is correcting you ever single post because of your apparent inability to go back a few posts and read it. Get a grip dude, some people have different opinions and experiences than you.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379324 - 10/14/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .

But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.


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    #22379393 - 10/14/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh shit, I just realized that you're the "You guys are taking drugs wrong" guy :lol:

Uzz was right, we're getting trolled :rofl:


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    #22379399 - 10/14/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .

But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.




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    #22379409 - 10/14/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

O my God, y'allz. I smokd a bowl and now im c-ing  dragons.


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    #22379414 - 10/14/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

weed ain't a psychedelic, its out there in its own category separated from other drugs. If anything it's a partial cannabinoid receptor agonist.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379430 - 10/14/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinda silly if you ask me,






That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.

If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.



Technically this has been well researched and Buddhist monks actually produce HIGH levels of DiMethylTryptamine during deep states of meditation.  Sure it takes 40 years of sweeping an ashraam.  But even Stanislov Grov moved over to holotropic breathing after LSD therapy essentially became outlawed.  You don't think there could be SOME connection there?

And I'm really not trying to knock you, I'm just saying your view of this subject seems a little narrow.


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    #22379469 - 10/14/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also I agree that at least edible cannabis (since it turns into a different metabolite than thc when digested {11-Hydroxy somthing} you'll have to forgive me I'm really high on a new substance :derfase:) IS a psychedelic with the right ROA/right dose.

I've straight seen my best friend rip 6 hits of whole nug run SSH top shelf shatter from a first gen g-pen.  This was after a year tolerance break. He tripped NUTS for a solid 2 hours.  Believe it or not if you read "Confessions of an Amerikan Hashish Eater" you can find some rather interesting trip reports that mirror those of LSD reports from the 1960's.  Chicago had secret clubs where they'd inbibe and then share their experiences.  It's incredibly interesting stuff actually. :lol:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22379496 - 10/14/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Herb is a very serious drug nowadays. It used to generally be a lot weaker, though bomb weed always existed, you smoked it and you basically giggled, daydreamed and munched, it was sold by the lid for cheap, now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.

People were all about being connaisseurs and growing your own, now its grown by Big Crime and people are so desperate they scrape the tar from their pipe and re-smoke that if they run out.




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    #22379609 - 10/14/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .

But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.




Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?


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    #22379689 - 10/14/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.






I must not be smoking good enough weed then, I don't get these symptoms


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22379697 - 10/14/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

weed is the easiest "illegal" drug to promote because of the medical benefits. that's why it slipped into the mainstream.
it's pretty hard for someone to argue that something which eases pain for terminally ill people should stay illegal.

the plant's power is definitely under-estimated nowadays though...all it takes for me is one hit of dank and i'm straight tripping for about 2 hours. (that's with no tolerance btw, no longer a frequent user).

i don't mean tripping in the sense of visuals or anything, but like my perception of reality itself is heavily altered to a noticeable degree. when i smoke almost everything that happens feels like a synchronicity of some sort. i start seeing patterns in everything and making connections between really far out things. not all of the connections are grounded though, some of them are really delusional.

i find cannabis to be very psychedelic personally, on the level of pure perception at least. it sort of blasts open your imagination while at the same time scrambling it and making everything kind of confusing. like some intense, waking lucid dream or something.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Hemuli]
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Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .

But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.




Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?




Oh no, dude, it's because weed's a hardcore psychedelic. One hit and you're gigglin' with the DMT elves.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22380239 - 10/14/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .

But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.




Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?




Oh no, dude, it's because weed's a hardcore psychedelic. One hit and you're gigglin' with the DMT elves.




How bout ya stop making arguments from your personal incredulity and open your mind up. There now has been a handful of people in this single thread detailing their personal psychedelic experiences in varying degrees from cannabis.

Also the fact you think someone can have stronger effects from a substance that you cannot makes them childish is pretty stupid in general.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22380247 - 10/14/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinda silly if you ask me,






That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.

If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.



Technically this has been well researched and Buddhist monks actually produce HIGH levels of DiMethylTryptamine during deep states of meditation.  Sure it takes 40 years of sweeping an ashraam.  But even Stanislov Grov moved over to holotropic breathing after LSD therapy essentially became outlawed.  You don't think there could be SOME connection there?

And I'm really not trying to knock you, I'm just saying your view of this subject seems a little narrow.



Once again I agree with you, I have no idea how the monks achieve their experience, but if it is by somehow willing themselves subconsciously or consciously to increase DMT levels that is awesome.

I have no doubt that someone somewhere has had a psychedelic experience without taking a foreign substance.


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    #22380256 - 10/14/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Whatever you say, dude :rofl:


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    #22380260 - 10/14/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i think alot of the daily smokers aren't getting as intense of a weed experience due to high tolerance, SaltyPeaks. i challenge anyone to go a month or two without smoking then do just one bong rip of ANY good sativa bud...you're going to be pretty fucking altered and it's going to be quite the head trip.

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    #22380291 - 10/14/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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i think alot of the daily smokers aren't getting as intense of a weed experience due to high tolerance, SaltyPeaks. i challenge anyone to go a month or two without smoking then do just one bong rip of ANY good sativa bud...you're going to be pretty fucking altered and it's going to be quite the head trip.

everytime i smoke it's with "no tolerance" and it's fucking insane.




Probably right, I think my infrequent use definitely has increased the strength of the experience. That is why I am surprised that cannabis has made it into the mainstream so easily, I am sure that LSD could be micro-dosed daily and the effects would be very positive in many cases. Same goes for most other psychs, but there is the obvious dilemma that in higher doses they begin to exceed the limit of cannabis.

Still though I find that a substance, under the right circumstances, can get you to a level 3 trip being looked at by many as equal to coffee or Tylenol is surprising.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22380346 - 10/14/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually, you did say that Benadryl was a psychedelic. You said
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Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.




Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.

One day, you'll take some real drugs, then you'll understand.



You read that as me saying benedryl is a psych? Your reading comprehension is of a 3rd grader dude. It's a if, then statement. Not a defining statement ya goof.



This guy knows his logic. Claiming "if A, then B" is not at all the same thing as claiming B. If A happens to be false, then "if A, then B" makes no claim about the truth of B.


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But A is true, so what of B?


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    #22380453 - 10/14/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But A is true, so what of B?




Then B...Are you retarded?

I have not taken, nor know much about benadryl, but if the effects on you fill the definition of a psychedelic would it not be one? If not then you have a paradox. Again, this is you claiming it fills the definition, not I, so it is you claiming the paradox.


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    #22380482 - 10/14/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But A is true, so what of B?



The point is, he didn't claim A (in your quote anyway, haven't read the whole thread.) If you yourself are claiming A, then that's quite different from him claiming it.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22380487 - 10/14/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

:facepalm:

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22380519 - 10/14/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

wait, why is this thread still going? i read the first few pages and the :facepalm: was already too much


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22380520 - 10/14/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

:facepalm:

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?



Wow, you really cannot go back and read, can you? My definition, now for the THIRD TIME, is :relating to or denoting drugs that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.

Also for the THIRD TIME, I have not taken benadryl, know pretty much nothing about it, so how could I say it is a psych? Again, FOR THE THIRD TIME, all I did was give the definition, you were the one that said benadryl fit it, you are the one who keeps saying it is. Please get that through your dense skull.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22380530 - 10/14/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

salty dont even lie, you just trying to rack them posts up :smug:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #22380538 - 10/14/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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wait, why is this thread still going? i read the first few pages and the :facepalm: was already too much



I keep it going in hopes that someone will try and have an intelligent discussion with me pertaining to my original questions. So far there has actually been a few, which is awesome.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #22380547 - 10/14/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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salty dont even lie, you just trying to rack them posts up :smug:



If I wanted more posts I woulda posted more over the last year and a half since joining. I am really actually interested in the topics I post about.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Asante]
    #22380558 - 10/14/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herb is a very serious drug nowadays. It used to generally be a lot weaker, though bomb weed always existed, you smoked it and you basically giggled, daydreamed and munched, it was sold by the lid for cheap, now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.

People were all about being connaisseurs and growing your own, now its grown by Big Crime and people are so desperate they scrape the tar from their pipe and re-smoke that if they run out.




That's a bit dramatic wouldn't you say? :lol:
Almost every other person I know grows weed, and I never even caught word at all of any criminal organizations gaining a major foothold in the business (in Oregon/legal)

And you can buy whatever strain you want with whatever realm of effects you want. It's fucking awesome and cheap :awesome:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22380628 - 10/14/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

:facepalm:

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?



Psychedelic is a pretty imprecise term to begin with, and consequently there's no reason to expect that all people will agree on a single definition. You presumably have some definition for the term that you're working with (?) and some rationale for why certain things wouldn't meet it. IMO it's not stupid at all for someone else to have a different definition roughly in line with how some dictionary might define it, and apply this  consistently (i.e. "Any drug that meets the criteria for membership in category C must then be a member of C.")

With marijuana, it's definitely not unheard of in published works for it to be described as a psychedelic (sometimes with the qualification that high doses are required). IMO debating whether certain things are or are not "psychedelics" is pretty pointless though, since there is no real agreement on what the criteria should be. Categories like "agonist of receptor XYZ" and so on are a lot more precise, and allow narrowing things down a lot more than vague terms like "psychedelic" or "psychoactive" do.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: twighead]
    #22380640 - 10/14/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Herb is a very serious drug nowadays. It used to generally be a lot weaker, though bomb weed always existed, you smoked it and you basically giggled, daydreamed and munched, it was sold by the lid for cheap, now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.

People were all about being connaisseurs and growing your own, now its grown by Big Crime and people are so desperate they scrape the tar from their pipe and re-smoke that if they run out.




That's a bit dramatic wouldn't you say? :lol:
Almost every other person I know grows weed, and I never even caught word at all of any criminal organizations gaining a major foothold in the business (in Oregon/legal)

And you can buy whatever strain you want with whatever realm of effects you want. It's fucking awesome and cheap :awesome:




I agree that, if anything, the legalization has reduced crime by making it much more profitable to operate legally. I don't think legal bud is cheaper though, but if the prices drop like they did in Canada it will be :thumbup:. And of course growing it is cheaper than buying legal or on the street!

Do you think shrooms and LSD are on the same track to legalization in the future? I think there are many similarities between more taboo psychedelics and cannabis, yet it has managed to become wildy popular and accepted.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: psi]
    #22380655 - 10/14/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

:facepalm:

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?



Psychedelic is a pretty imprecise term to begin with, and consequently there's no reason to expect that all people will agree on a single definition. You presumably have some definition for the term that you're working with (?) and some rationale for why certain things wouldn't meet it. IMO it's not stupid at all for someone else to have a different definition roughly in line with how some dictionary might define it, and apply this  consistently (i.e. "Any drug that meets the criteria for membership in category C must then be a member of C.")

With marijuana, it's definitely not unheard of in published works for it to be described as a psychedelic (sometimes with the qualification that high doses are required). IMO debating whether certain things are or are not "psychedelics" is pretty pointless though, since there is no real agreement on what the criteria should be. Categories like "agonist of receptor XYZ" and so on are a lot more precise, and allow narrowing things down a lot more than vague terms like "psychedelic" or "psychoactive" do.




Couldn't of said it better, thank you.

My OP has really nothing to do with the definition or whether or not cannabis is a psych, I unfortunately got derailed and should of pushed harder to get back to my main points. 

Anyway, if you haven't read the OP I kinda just ask what people think the reason for cannabis' much greater use/acceptance/popularity is than other psychs? I'm interested in your thoughts.


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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22380678 - 10/14/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Have not yet read the OP but I will check it out.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22380763 - 10/14/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyway, if you haven't read the OP I kinda just ask what people think the reason for cannabis' much greater use/acceptance/popularity is than other psychs? I'm interested in your thoughts.




It's because the plant is so beneficial medicinally for a variety of causes...that's why even society at large thinks it should be legal at this point.

That's also how we need to promote the other substances for future legalization. It's not enough to say "it's my body, i can put what i want in it." We need to convince people that these drugs have positive benefits, and that's how you win people over.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: psi]
    #22380822 - 10/14/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?




Now that I look back, I realize I did read it, but didn't have much to say in response to it at the time. I think some of the negative reactions may relate to people seeing it as an attack on marijuana and/or their own usage in some way. Aside from that, I would point out that alcohol is also very mainstream and very powerful in its own way. IME most people I knew who at one time used drugs similar to mushrooms now take them rarely if ever, myself included. Being confronted with the harsh realities you hide from yourself isn't always what you're going for. Marijuana can precipitate that kind of introspection too I find, or in heavy daily use it can kind of do the opposite and help you forget what you want to forget.

Experiences with the so-called "classic psychedelics" and drugs whose effects closely resemble them seem to be more difficult for many people to integrate into daily life vs marijuana. There are also people who, perhaps like yourself, are especially sensitive to marijuana, and some of them find it too intense and don't continue using it. It's not quite as common though I think, and your average member of the public is more likely to know a few regular weed smokers than they are to know a few regular users of mushrooms or whatever.

Knowing a few users of a drug who mostly seem to be otherwise well-adjusted in life goes a long way towards acceptance from non-users I think. Going back to alcohol, pretty much anyone knows a few people affected negatively by it, but a lot more people who drink every now and then and otherwise lead productive lives.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: psi]
    #22381324 - 10/14/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.

In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had.

Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.

My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?




Now that I look back, I realize I did read it, but didn't have much to say in response to it at the time. I think some of the negative reactions may relate to people seeing it as an attack on marijuana and/or their own usage in some way. Aside from that, I would point out that alcohol is also very mainstream and very powerful in its own way. IME most people I knew who at one time used drugs similar to mushrooms now take them rarely if ever, myself included. Being confronted with the harsh realities you hide from yourself isn't always what you're going for. Marijuana can precipitate that kind of introspection too I find, or in heavy daily use it can kind of do the opposite and help you forget what you want to forget.

Experiences with the so-called "classic psychedelics" and drugs whose effects closely resemble them seem to be more difficult for many people to integrate into daily life vs marijuana. There are also people who, perhaps like yourself, are especially sensitive to marijuana, and some of them find it too intense and don't continue using it. It's not quite as common though I think, and your average member of the public is more likely to know a few regular weed smokers than they are to know a few regular users of mushrooms or whatever.

Knowing a few users of a drug who mostly seem to be otherwise well-adjusted in life goes a long way towards acceptance from non-users I think. Going back to alcohol, pretty much anyone knows a few people affected negatively by it, but a lot more people who drink every now and then and otherwise lead productive lives.




Thanks for the in depth response. I really like the point that cannabis highs and the experiences you have from it are more easily integrated. I've had similar degrees of hallucinations from cannabis, obviously high doses, as low to medium doses of shrooms. That said the base line I return to after smoking weed is pretty much unchanged, not so for shrooms. This changing of the sober mind could definitely turn people off, even if it is for the better change in anyway is usually resisted at first.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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