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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22378479 - 10/14/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Their debating styles are very similar But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.
I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.
No one's getting bent out of shape. You're just ranting about nonsense.
as far the definition of Psychedelic, yours is wrong. "A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception, typically by agonising serotonin receptors". So, sorry, Benadryl isn't a Psychedelic.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Their debating styles are very similar But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.
I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.
No one's getting bent out of shape. You're just ranting about nonsense.
as far the definition of Psychedelic, yours is wrong. "A psychedelic substance is a psychoactive drug whose primary action is to alter cognition and perception, typically by agonising serotonin receptors". So, sorry, Benadryl isn't a Psychedelic.
Okay, like I clearly stated before, I never said Benadyl was, all I did was give my definition. I've never done benadryl so I have no idea if it cause a psychedelic experience or not.
Also, it seems pretty pretentious of you to think you have the objectively correct definition. Either way I think most would agree that cannabis fits your definition just fine, it is a 5-ht1 agonist, it alters cognition and perception, I doubt even you would disagree with that? Seems to me your definition is very broad, and encompasses a lot of substance usually not considered psychedelic. It only speaks of altered cognition and perception, not specifically of things like hallucination or consciousness expansion, something usually considered a hallmark of psychedelics.
So many substances, and even just sober experiences can act on serotonin receptors and alter your perception of the world. I mean by your definition, take a B-complex vitamin, take some shots, and read a enlightening book and boom, you just had a psychedelic experience... Kinda silly if you ask me, but its your definition.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22378832 - 10/14/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You've got poppy for pain Shrooms for the soul Hasjisj for the healing Alcohol for the animal Cacti for the connoiseur Lucy for the lost Music for the melancholic Coffee for the chronically tired
That's just me, though. Also nicotine but I didn't know how to fit it in, and I don't like it anyway.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22378859 - 10/14/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Their debating styles are very similar But I do think Bitter Cactus is a little smarter than this kid.
I'm not trying to debate anyone here. You just keep getting bent out of shape over what I am saying. And as far as the definition of a psychedelic, nice avoidance just continue ranting and you'll never have to answer.
That's not a psychedelic though, it's technically a deleriant.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22378872 - 10/14/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. 
Neurochemisty is a funny thing, it doesn't always take exogenious chemicals to produce effects to that of psychedelics. This is WELL documented. 
Read a fuckin book.
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Actually, you did say that Benadryl was a psychedelic. You said Quote:
Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.
Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.
One day, you'll take some real drugs, then you'll understand.
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Also, Sleep deprivation causes more realistic hallucinations than anything. Does that make Methamphetamine a psychedelic?
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TheGreenArrow said: So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. 
Not to be a debbie-downer, but... they could be. From the small lifting of the veil I have experienced, I do not believe they are, but I could be full of shit as well and not even know it! 
Don't be so hard on the guy, man. He's doing his own thing, and that is good too.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22378936 - 10/14/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not when you're basically shitting on an age old hermetic/esoteric tradition that's been passed down for ages and ages. Sure he may not believe in it, but to call it "silly" is out-right hogwash.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22378942 - 10/14/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Weed is really shit for drug testing though, they can detect it for weeks.
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Who's to say, man? It could be absoluteley false and deluded. It could be true yet silly at the same time.
Who's to say...
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#22378955 - 10/14/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made an almost 60 yo reggae fan happy two days ago by telling him Jamaica legalized cannabis. He visited the nation twice and it was great to see how happy he was for the Jamaicans. 
Damn straight. I never been there and stopped smoking herb years ago but even I was stoked for them. Free at last.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
#22378956 - 10/14/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Who's to say, man? It could be absoluteley false and deluded. It could be true yet silly at the same time.
Who's to say...
Not that newbie fuck, that's for sure.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
#22378963 - 10/14/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah weed is pretty intense for me. It makes me think a lot about shit and that can be a negative thing or a positive thing. Weed is definitively not my idea of trying to relax and get shit off my mind. It's more like "mildly psychedelic makes me think about shit".
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22378995 - 10/14/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Weed is my "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" drug.  I love it, but it's been hurting me lateley. I guess every love affair has to come to an end someday.
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Yeah i remember one time I smoked so much that my vision was choppy like seeing an image after image after image. Like everything was 1 fps in my field of vision. Also felt like my body was cut in half when I took a bite from a pizza slice. If you dont think weed is a different kind of psychedelic, your tolerance is just really high or you havent smoked a lot of some strong sativa. I mean of course shrooms and lsd are more powerful and way different but imo thc can be pretty psychedelic/dissociative in an unique kind of way.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22379034 - 10/14/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Music for the melancholic

"when it hits you feel no pain"
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Actually, you did say that Benadryl was a psychedelic. You said Quote:
Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.
Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.
One day, you'll take some real drugs, then you'll understand.
You read that as me saying benedryl is a psych? Your reading comprehension is of a 3rd grader dude. It's a if, then statement. Not a defining statement ya goof.
And then you go right back to pretty much saying "weed isn't a psych because I say so". I can just as easily say it is because I say so. Lucky I don't have to because I clearly stated and showed how for both our definitions it is a psychedelic and produces psychedelic experiences.
Also, I never said anything remotely along the lines of not being able to 'handle' weed. In fact if you read the OP you'd see I've had no issue using it for years. My experiences on cannabis are strong, yes, that has nothing to do with whether or not I 'handle' them lol. Just because someones trips hard on shrooms does that mean they can't 'handle' it? If they have a good time and enjoy it I'd say they not only can handle it but they are doing it right!
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TheGreenArrow said: So you're basically saying that 5000+ years of Yogi's reaching "Samsara" are full of shit. 
Neurochemisty is a funny thing, it doesn't always take exogenious chemicals to produce effects to that of psychedelics. This is WELL documented. 
Read a fuckin book. 
Um, nope. Never said anything like that... I definitely think you can have the effects of a psychedelic without any foreign substance.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
#22379122 - 10/14/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Weed is my "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" drug.  I love it, but it's been hurting me lateley. I guess every love affair has to come to an end someday.
Definitely have had those highs. It sounds to me though that the "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" is what is hurting, not the cannabis. Try taking a hike, run, or doing some are and toking half way in, don't do it first or you're more liable to sit down and blow off the fun activity.
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant, I felt very, very small... -Neil Armstrong
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