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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374190 - 10/13/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374192 - 10/13/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said: I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once. In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had. Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies. My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] 1
#22374199 - 10/13/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.
Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.
Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia
I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,
Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22374203 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.
Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.
This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.
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ShortbusExplosion said: because its a soft drug. when I say soft drug I mean it basically does no physical damage to the body and is not physically addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.
Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.
Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?
Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.
You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.
Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.
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Turtletotem said: I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.
Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.
This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.
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ShortbusExplosion said: because its a soft drug. when I say soft drug I mean it basically does no physical damage to the body and is not physically addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.
Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.
Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?
Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.
You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.
Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.
Level 3 Trip: "Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved and/or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or "mother of pearl" surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusion of the senses (i.e. seeing sounds as colors, etcetera). Time distortions and "moments of eternity"
I have no doubt I have reached this point with cannabis, and not just through edibles but by smoking flower. I can't say that all were happening at once, but I have had sessions where all, including synesthesia happened. As far as level 4, I have had some fleeting moments of, but wouldn't say I have achieved.
That said, I really have never done a heroic amount of smoking in one session (most was probably about 3-4g), I have taken about a quad via edible.
As I said before I am sure I have a low tolerance from infrequent use, but I also ive an exceptionally healthy lifestyle and eat well which probably helps. For the past year I usually have 3-4 fruit and one of those bag salads you can just shake up in the package then eat for when I get the munchies. Feels great not just pounding junk food, and actually tastes better IMO.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374208 - 10/13/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374214 - 10/13/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: No problem. I like to let people who have obviously never used mushrooms before that they are in fact very potent psychedelics and you shouldn't be fooled, they aren't all fun and games.
I get it, you're like an uber shaman psychonaut that really has all the info.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] 1
#22374223 - 10/13/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope. No shaman here. Just a regular dude who has used a plethora of drugs and know the difference between being high and losing your fucking mind
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374234 - 10/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So your healthy lifestyle makes you trip like you're on LSD or shrooms when you smoke pot?
Interesting theory you've got
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22374244 - 10/13/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yah brah. Didn't you know eating salad and fruit gives you +3 trip level, bro?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22374262 - 10/13/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.
Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.
Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia
I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,
Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ? 
Haha, no I wish. I have smoked DMT and salvia, taken LSD, shrooms, and morning glory seeds. I would agree that DMTs effects are much much more potent than cannabis, I would say that their ability to alter the way you view the world is much more comparable though. I think too much emphasis is put on what you see or physically feel. Just because both DMT and alcohol is frequently consumed to the point of loosing the ability to see doesn't mean they should be held at the same level. I would think that it is how the mind is effected matters more, maybe not right at that moment but definitely in the long term. That is how I find it easy to compare DMT to cannabis, although I do admit DMT is probably the farthest away from cannabis of the hallucinogens I've tried.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22374275 - 10/13/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I don't even get psychedelic effects, hallucinations, or visuals like you're talking about on weed.
Maybe it's considered a light drug because most people don't get like that on weed? Whereas, the majority (if not all) users on a normal dose of LSD, shrooms, or DMT, will experience serious hallucinations.
Also, have you ever smoked DMT? Just curious because you compared DMT and weed in this thread too. I don't even know how one could begin to do that. DMT is an extremely potent psychedelic, and again, most people don't get hallucinations, visuals and other effects like that on weed. I get a good body buzz, and head buzz depending on the strains, I like to eat more, I feel more content, I feel less anxious...but I definitely don't start to see objects melt, change shape, turn into different colours, I don't get synesthesia
I don't even know how one could compare weed to other drugs like DMT, LSD,
Does your weed pipe have DMT residue in it or something ? 
You're missing out. I get some pretty sick CEVs when i smoke, and a slighlty different perception of reality. 
I used to get cartoon vision and warped objects but that rarely happens to me anymore sadly.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374277 - 10/13/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: Yah brah. Didn't you know eating salad and fruit gives you +3 trip level, bro?
Do I think having a low body fat percentage and fast metabolism, both attainable from a healthy diet and lifestyle, increases the high from cannabis? Yeah, and I think anyone with half a brain would agree.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374291 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So please explain the biochemistry behind cannabis and more specifically the cannabinoids and how it interacts with your endogenous system of cannabinoids and their receptors if you are so brilliant.
which has nothing to do with metabolism or low body fat content(BTW)
But hey, kids will be kids and spout out nonsense.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374294 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP, since when are LSD and Mushrooms "hard drugs"
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374311 - 10/13/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: So please explain the biochemistry behind cannabis and more specifically the cannabinoids and how it interacts with your endogenous system of cannabinoids and their receptors if you are so brilliant.
which has nothing to do with metabolism or low body fat content(BTW)
But hey, kids will be kids and spout out nonsense.
It's true, I am not a cannabis scientist, but I highly doubt you are either. What I do know is thc is stored in fat, and if you have very little fat it will stay in the blood, making it to the brain, and getting you high. As far as a fast metabolism means that, especially when eating edibles, the weed makes it through your system faster. Just as smoking 1g quick gets you higher than smoking 1g over the course of the day.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: OP, since when are LSD and Mushrooms "hard drugs"

Never said they were in the OP or this entire thread.
Also my original questions were "My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?"
I think the first one makes it clear that I put cannabis right in with other psychs.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374328 - 10/13/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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First off, Weed is not a psychedelic.
Go do some real drugs, then come back. I think you'll have a better grasp on the situation then.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374331 - 10/13/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said: I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once. In that time I smoked alone exactly 7 times, and even then I had my dog and was doing it instead of taking prescription narcotics for a surgery I had. Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies. My question is how do you think that this obviously very strong and potent substance has slipped through into the mainstream well other psychedelics are so taboo still? Do you think it is OK that people treat it more like ibuprofen or cigs than as LSD? Also as kind of a side note what do you think about the rising popularity of ridiculously high THC content concentrates?
I don't know, man, as I've only been smoking weed for 46 years. I can go days / weeks without partaking & don't feel bad in the least. Look at how many deaths have been attributed to booze & cigs...hundreds of thousands. Weed? 0! Weed is my all-time favorite relaxing substance...or if toking a sativa, the best energizer of anything. As for psychedelics / hallucinogens, those are difficult maintaining one's composure in any social situation. 1 thing I have noticed, the older I got, the less weed I need for maximum altitude. I'll smoke 2-3 bong ripz & be pleasantly stoned for hours. When I was younger, I could toke all day & evening. Now? Strictly after 9 p.m. & once only.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: First off, Weed is not a psychedelic.
Go do some real drugs, then come back. I think you'll have a better grasp on the situation then.
Bummed because I can trip on weed?
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