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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22373909 - 10/13/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22373910 - 10/13/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think he is just trolling now
Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea
wtf
damnit its a troll
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Envix]
#22373916 - 10/13/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned I'm less antsy.
driving sleep deprived or while angry is actually worse
Worse than what?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22373929 - 10/13/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: No, you are misunderstanding my point. My point is that, you can dose on weed everyday and still get high. After a few weeks it may cost a little more and be less intense, but you still will feel a high from it. With L, you can trip maybe 3 days in a row, and by the third day you will have a sky high tolerance. If you want to even trip a little, your going to have to take way more.
Its not about the fact that tripping is still possible, after a few weeks of daily dosing its going to be ridiculously expensive to keep tripping. you could continue to dose at a regular level, and be a functional, daily lsd user. But what fun is that without the effects?
With weed, after a few weeks, its relatively inexpensive to keep dosing and you still will feel high.
I dont know how much more plainly I can put it.
What you are saying: You can smoke everyday and have an effect? Yes. Can you have profound trip like highs that I talk about everyday from weed, I really really doubt it. Maybe a few days in a row before you have to smoke a shit ton to achieve that super high. I agree with you dude.
What I am saying though is:
You can microdose LSD everyday and have an effect? Yes, hoffman did this. Can you have profound trips everyday on LSD? I really really doubt it. Maybe a few days in a row before you have to smoke, I mean dose, a shit ton to achieve that super trip.
Sounds pretty identical to me. What do you not agree with?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22373936 - 10/13/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics 
And thank you for actually answering, I appreciate it. I should have specified that most people seem to take it as a personal attack. The discussion I'm having with you is awesome.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22373938 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The two tolerances are completely different.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22373939 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree with that. you win 
Anyway, I dont think most of the general population understands microdosing anyway. Thats why I was arguing the concept of not being able to have a full blown trip everyday, vs being able to get high everyday. Most of the 20 something year olds would probably smoke weed daily, and trip on occassion. Thats why i feel that weed would be/is more popular than psycedelics.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22373955 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: I think he is just trolling now
Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea
wtf
damnit its a troll
Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.
Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22373961 - 10/13/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: I agree with that. you win 
It was never a competition or debate, just a discussion about the OP. Thanks for your input.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374002 - 10/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I take everything as a debate, helps me put more thought behind my post
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374015 - 10/13/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: I think he is just trolling now
Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea
wtf
damnit its a troll
Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.
Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.
You must be trolling me or you are the biggest noob ever.
.1g of cannabis will get you high which is OBVIOUSLY what I was referring to since I quoted your post.
1g of shrooms can fluctuate between nothing to a medium-strong dose.
You are comparing the dose of 10x the dose needed to get high on cannabis so I obviously made it 10x the dose of mushrooms for 1g->10g and .1g->1g
Not enuf facepalms, bruh.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374074 - 10/13/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: I tried to answer your question about the popularity and you decided to turn it into the potential of daily use for weed vs psychedelics 
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SaltyPeaks said:
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Uzziel said: I think he is just trolling now
Clearly I was talking about weed and mushrooms and he acts like he has no idea
wtf
damnit its a troll
Dude if anyone is trolling it is you. If you think .1g of shrooms is even enough to feel let alone trip you are retarded. Your sentence didn't specify what you're comparing 10g of shrooms to either, how should I know. I thought it could be LSD or cannabis as the post you are referring to talked about both in comparison with shrooms.
Also you really missed the point if you want to compare 1g cannabis to 10g shrooms, no shit it's gonna be a little different. My point is that to a point you can achieve similar levels of highness from both. At low doses weed is probably stronger, as the dose go higher shrooms obviously is stronger, but you can to a point smoke more and achieve similar effects.
You must be trolling me or you are the biggest noob ever.
.1g of cannabis will get you high which is OBVIOUSLY what I was referring to since I quoted your post.
1g of shrooms can fluctuate between nothing to a medium-strong dose.
You are comparing the dose of 10x the dose needed to get high on cannabis so I obviously made it 10x the dose of mushrooms for 1g->10g and .1g->1g
Not enuf facepalms, bruh.
You've completely missed my point. Let me explain again. I say Weed, LSD, Shrooms, DMT, etc... they are all strong drugs in my opinion. I ask why is it that weed is considered acceptable or 'soft'.
You answer that it is soft because you can take a hit of it and laugh it off, but taking "a lot of shrooms" wouldn't be as easy. I totally agree with this, this is obvious.
What I am saying is that doses differ, and that minimal and maximum effective doses differ. Comparing shrooms and wed at the low end, say 1g, weed is probably stronger, if you increase dose linearly shrooms will soon be stronger, probably around 2-3g. BUT that doesn't mean you can't smoke/eat/dab enough weed to achieve a similar effect as lets say 5g of shrooms, it will be a lot more yes, but still possible.
Which brings us back to you saying that weed is 'soft'. If a 5g shroom dose can be achieved with a 200ug LSD dose does that mean shrooms are 'soft'? I don't think so. And just as if you can achieve a 15g cannabis dose with 5g of shrooms that doesn't make weed 'soft'.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] 1
#22374084 - 10/13/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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1 gram of weed is not a light dose if you smoked that yourself all in one quick sitting. Especially through bong rips or something and ESPECIALLY if you had a low tolerance. You'd just be mind fucked.
what the fuck are you talking about? That's like going balls to the walls of smoking weed.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374102 - 10/13/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.
Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.
This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.
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ShortbusExplosion said: because its a soft drug. when I say soft drug I mean it basically does no physical damage to the body and is not physically addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.
Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.
Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?
Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374131 - 10/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: 1 gram of weed is not a light dose if you smoked that yourself all in one quick sitting. Especially through bong rips or something and ESPECIALLY if you had a low tolerance. You'd just be mind fucked.
what the fuck are you talking about? That's like going balls to the walls of smoking weed.

Sorry, explained it as simply as I could. You either didn't read it or read it and still went back to your comment on weed being strong at 1g. Either way you aren't worth the time.
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Turtletotem said: I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.
Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.
This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.
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ShortbusExplosion said: because its a soft drug. when I say soft drug I mean it basically does no physical damage to the body and is not physically addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.
Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.
Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?
Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.
You can trip pretty fucking hard from weed if you smoke a lot at once or don't have a tolerance. Ive gotten strong CEVs and a very psychedelic headspace from weed many times. Slight alteration in colors and the way I visually perceive things.
Obviously not as intense as other psychedelics. Strong level 2/low level 3 trip.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374139 - 10/13/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well... you think you can smoke enough weed to get the same effects of 5 grams of mushrooms so.... I can safely say you're a noob who has clearly never used drugs before
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Turtletotem said: I used to take weed lightly, but after a long period of daily use it has become my opinion that weed is pretty powerful stuff.
Not good or bad, just powerful. Be careful with it.
This is pretty much my opinion of it. I have no issue with daily or large dosage users, I just am confused why it is assumed to be a 'light drug' or lesser than other psychs when I think it can be just as powerful, just in a different way.
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ShortbusExplosion said: because its a soft drug. when I say soft drug I mean it basically does no physical damage to the body and is not physically addicting.Just like mushrooms and LSD.
Unlike cocaine, meth, heroin, even alcohol and cigarettes, which are all hard drugs.
Yeah I agree, that isn't what any of my questions are about lol. I asked why is it that weed is accepted in mainstream society and not the other psychedelics?
Marijuana is starting to be glorified more and more by the media and mainstream hip hop as well as youth culture. So it makes sense that people are going to become more aware of what it really is rather than what it isnt. By the way, if you're having full blown trips off weed your shit might be laced.
Maybe I've had laced stuff a couple times, but every sack I've ever bought has lent to at least 1 trip like experience. Because my infrequent smoking and because I usually buy quads or bigger I rarely get it from the same dealer. I also have smoked some right off the plant, and same deal, very high, trippy experience.
As far as cannabis coming into the mainstream I understand how it happened, it just surprises me that other psychs were left in the dust, especially when you look back and see that in the 60s weed and lsd were both considered evil and hated by the mainstream pretty equally.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
#22374166 - 10/13/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: Well... you think you can smoke enough weed to get the same effects of 5 grams of mushrooms so.... I can safely say you're a noob who has clearly never used drugs before 
Yep, thanks for your input.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22374177 - 10/13/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No problem. I like to let people who have obviously never used mushrooms before that they are in fact very potent psychedelics and you shouldn't be fooled, they aren't all fun and games.
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