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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373706 - 10/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373722 - 10/13/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you mean why?

Because I can smoke weed all day and laugh it off

Or I could not smoke weed for a year and take a hit and laugh it off

But I can't take a few hits of LSD and just laugh it off

I can't take a lot of mushrooms and just laugh it off

...etc etc




Yeah that's what I was looking for. But your reasoning is kind of odd, you say you can take a hit of weed (pretty small dose) and laugh it off, then you compare that to a lot of shrooms or a few hits of lsd...

A lot of shrooms or a few hits of lsd is a big dose, of course you aren't gonna be having the same experience. Now if you were to compare a micro or small dose of lsd (10-30ug) to a hit of weed that'd be a lot closer.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks] * 1
    #22373739 - 10/13/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm comparing strong doses of weed to strong doses of other substances.

Even at my most fucked moments when I just took a massive rip or something, I'm still fine and can laugh it off.

Can't say the same for alcohol, speed, opiates, LSD, mushrooms, dissociative or any other drug.

So yes. Weed is very weak in comparison.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373752 - 10/13/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373807 - 10/13/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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xbloodwhipx said:
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SaltyPeaks said:
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xbloodwhipx said:
Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.




I feel like you are trying to convince me LSD is just as safe as weed. I dont disagree with that, I'm pointing out the positive effects of weed and reasons why its so popular.

I also said the reason psychedelics aren't as popular is because they are misunderstood. Thats why I said they are hard to OD on, fun, etc.

You cannot, however, trip on one substance more than a couple of times in a short period. You WILL build up a tolerance to the substance to the point that it takes a huge amount of it to make you trip. This isn't the case with weed, you can smoke it daily for weeks and still get high off like 10 dollars worth.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373825 - 10/13/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

OP, are you 13?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373832 - 10/13/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And I can point out the reason that psychedelics are misunderstood. I personally feel like some psychedelics are more misunderstood than others. Its because of successful government propaganda.

Shit, just the other day I was talking to my friend, who is a total pothead, about psychedelics. He told me he would try shrooms, I said "how about lsd". He told me fuck no, he doesn't want to go crazy. Its all based on ignorance.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373846 - 10/13/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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SaltyPeaks said:
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xbloodwhipx said:
Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.



It isnt all about the strength, its the fact that people love weed. Its impossible to overdose, gives an intense high that leaves you functional, and feels great.

It isn't very addictive, easy to grow, cheap to do so, and isnt very harmful. The reason other drugs are behind in popularity and social acceptability, is that they arent understood, for whatever reason. People can't seem to understand the fact that psychedelics are relatively safe, hard to overdose on, and fun. But you can't really trip everyday, like you can smoke weed daily, so that may have something to do with it.

Other drugs (aside from classic psychedelics) come with a host of side effects and addiction, thats why they aren't as popular as weed.

Plus its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday.




There was a thread on Pubs page 1 just a minute ago talking about a guy eating a sheet of LSD to little effect because the tolerance he build up in the course of a week. I think if daily cannabis users took LSD the same way they'd have no issue doing it daily. I would think this practice is silly and a waste, as I do with daily cannabis consumption, but I think it would be pretty similar; other than being easy to make it is nearly as safe, probably cheaper, and functional once a tolerance is built up or you just micro dose.




I feel like you are trying to convince me LSD is just as safe as weed. I dont disagree with that, I'm pointing out the positive effects of weed and reasons why its so popular.

I also said the reason psychedelics aren't as popular is because they are misunderstood. Thats why I said they are hard to OD on, fun, etc.

You cannot, however, trip on one substance more than a couple of times in a short period. You WILL build up a tolerance to the substance to the point that it takes a huge amount of it to make you trip. This isn't the case with weed, you can smoke it daily for weeks and still get high off like 10 dollars worth.




Dude, you literally JUST said that "its really easy (almost too easy) to build a huge tolerance for weed, and if that happens it becomes nearly impossible to reach that level of complete, overwhelming "stonedness". That makes it WAY easier to smoke everyday."


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22373848 - 10/13/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, are you 13?



Yeah duder I started smoking at the ripe ol' age of 5..:cool:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373864 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Boom, I sure did say that. I also posted, in that same post, in the same line, that you still can get high, just not incredibly high. Ten dollars gets what, a gram of high grade? 2 grams of high mid? Thats enough to get most everyone high, unless you are into concentrates.

And before you try to say "but you said this isnt the case with weed", i guess i could of worded my post a little differently. 10 dollars will get someone with no tolerance high a few times, so I assumed you would understand that I took tolerance into account when I posted "you can still get high off like 10 dollars worth". I meant one high. Thats still doesnt compare to the fact that it takes immense amounts of psychedelics to trip at all once you have built up a tolerance...


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373865 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm comparing strong doses of weed to strong doses of other substances.

Even at my most fucked moments when I just took a massive rip or something, I'm still fine and can laugh it off.

Can't say the same for alcohol, speed, opiates, LSD, mushrooms, dissociative or any other drug.

So yes. Weed is very weak in comparison.




I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same, I'd say the cannabis probably would be stronger. It is about dosage, 500ug of shrooms wouldn't do shit, yet the same amount of lsd...

I will concede that cannabis probably tops out in trip lvl lower than lsd or shrooms (the other drugs you mentioned aren't psychs and I have no interest in, that's why I specified psychs in the OP) but I know for at least myself I can get pretty damn far out on weed.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #22373868 - 10/13/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think the only problem I have currently is that the medical stuff is pretty strong. I've already fainted twice here in Colorado from smoking and being a bit dehydrated. I don't know, I don't find weed THAT strong, except when I started smoking. People just need to chill. They be smokin' too many blunts and then complain when they forget everything, spend all their money on cheap food, and sleep for 12 hours.



hah, i also have fainted twice in colorado since moving here. once on the bus!

i don't think it's just from the weed, the air is very dry here. i've smoked for years but never fainted outside of colorado. when i was brought to the ER they said it was dehydration

i've switched to vaping and don't feel dehydrated as much


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373874 - 10/13/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373878 - 10/13/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Boom, I sure did say that. I also posted, in that same post, in the same line, that you still can get high, just not incredibly high. Ten dollars gets what, a gram of high grade? 2 grams of high mid? Thats enough to get most everyone high, unless you are into concentrates.

And before you try to say "but you said this isnt the case with weed", i guess i could of worded my post a little differently. 10 dollars will get someone with no tolerance high a few times, so I assumed you would understand that I took tolerance into account when I posted "you can still get high off like 10 dollars worth". I meant one high. Thats still doesnt compare to the fact that it takes immense amounts of psychedelics to trip at all once you have build up a tolerance...




You're reiterating my point, that LSD could be a daily drug because of tolerance or because of microdosing...You're agreeing with me lol.

And same goes the other way, 10 bucks of lsd can get someone without any tolerance real out there.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373883 - 10/13/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same





~.1g is enough to get most people high... so if you want to do a real comparison, compare what 10 grams of shrooms would do compared 1g...

Yeah... your mind would be FUCKED


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22373888 - 10/13/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.



driving sleep deprived or while angry is actually worse


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373890 - 10/13/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Driving on LSD sounds more dangerous than driving drunk. And I drive better when I'm stoned :shrug: I'm less antsy.




My point was that for both their is a point where it is more dangerous th
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I'd be willing to bet that 1g of shrooms and 1g of good cannabis would be about the same





~.1g is enough to get most people high... so if you want to do a real comparison, compare what 10 grams of shrooms would do compared 1g...

Yeah... your mind would be FUCKED




10g of shrooms compared to 1g of what? Not sure if a statement of question or what you are even trying to say here.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373895 - 10/13/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This thread man... :popcorn:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373896 - 10/13/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, you are misunderstanding my point. My point is that, you can dose on weed everyday and still get high. After a few weeks it may cost a little more and be less intense, but you still will feel a high from it. With L, you can trip maybe 3 days in a row, and by the third day you will have a sky high tolerance. If you want to even trip a little, your going to have to take way more.

Its not about the fact that tripping is still possible, after a few weeks of daily dosing its going to be ridiculously expensive to keep tripping. you could continue to dose at a regular level, and be a functional, daily lsd user. But what fun is that without the effects?

With weed, after a few weeks, its relatively inexpensive to keep dosing and you still will feel high.

I dont know how much more plainly I can put it. And am honestly confused how a discussion about the popularity of a drug turned into a discussion about the potential of two drugs for daily use.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Achillita]
    #22373898 - 10/13/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This thread man... :popcorn:




People just take all my threads as some personal attack it seems, and don't even answer the original questions I pose. They read the title then just go right off to some tangential post.


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MOTH 2,880 25 03/23/04 11:46 AM
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* lighting a joint on the toaster...
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