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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373487 - 10/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

We'll get there, we'll get there.
At least they're finally doing some research on them again. Once people have accepted weed, and all these miracle stories about mushrooms or LSD come out, just you watch.
It's going to happen :Feelstrippyman:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373498 - 10/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
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Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
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When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.



dude, W T F? seems like a pretty unusual reaction to weed. i mean, i used to smoke a lotta weed, but i never had everything turn red nd start melting n shit


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373500 - 10/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No matter how stoned i get mentally, and how fucked i feel, I'm physically fine. I'm capable of doing normal things, and am normally a little better at doing them :shrug:. I cant say the same about tripping.

Nothing is sacred anymore, IMO. Not even tripping. People have turned those activities into recreation rather than spiritual enhancement.




Damn, I know for certain that most times when I smoke there is at least a few minutes where I wouldn't trust myself to do anything important, drive, or just get up off that uber comfy couch I'm on. I think LSD, shrooms, DMT, etc. are way more in your face literally and figuratively; but I know weed changes my minds eye perception of things just as much as those drugs do, just in a different direction.




Yeah, i said capable, not willing :lol:
I've driven really stoned, i drove fine, but was going 35 the whole time and freaking out. It felt like i was driving forever, in reality i only drove 5 minutes.

I normally dont put myself in situations where im high out of my mind and have to do something like drive, but if the situation arises I'm not unable to function.




I mean it is obviously safer than driving drunk, but as far as being able to impact peoples way of thinking and living is more of what I am taking about. Just because you can drive doesn't mean it is weak, just as alcohol causing you not to be able to drive doesn't make it equal to LSD.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373506 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.




Have smoked all day every day for the past 5 years.
Had a year of smoking nothing but kief.
Several grams per day under government medical license.

Have only ever had visual hallucinations on one occasion, from a very large dose of edibles.
Perhaps tolerance buildup is what mitigates much of the impact.
People in my day-to-day life are frequently unable to tell I am stoned unless I make them aware of it -- some are genuinely shocked to learn that they have never even interacted with me sober. :lol:

When you say "profound" what do you mean?
Was it the hallucinations were particularly impacting?
Did you feel some sort of "divine" guidance or purpose?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22373507 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
We'll get there, we'll get there.
At least they're finally doing some research on them again. Once people have accepted weed, and all these miracle stories about mushrooms or LSD come out, just you watch.
It's going to happen :Feelstrippyman:




I hope :psychsplit:


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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373525 - 10/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22373526 - 10/13/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.



dude, W T F? seems like a pretty unusual reaction to weed. i mean, i used to smoke a lotta weed, but i never had everything turn red nd start melting n shit




I don't really know what to say, I had consumed somewhere around the 2-3 gram range from a bong in a hot boxed 12x12 room, I am a pretty average size guy. One thing I do pride myself on is never fighting or resisting a trip, I seem to always be able to get right into and it always is a good ride.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Tantrika]
    #22373558 - 10/13/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I started smoking weed 7 years ago, the first year and a half of smoking was only on the weekends, maybe twice in a weekend. Then there was a phase around 2 years that it was at least 2 times a weekend, then for about 3 months it was every damn day. This phase passed quickly and for about 3 years it was about 2-3 days a month, sometimes more, sometimes 1-2 months without smoking at all. Now this last year it was more like 2 times a month, and the last 4 months I haven't smoked once.
...
Thinking back to all my times smoking, even that 3 month period of daily use, they were all pretty damn profound. I've had legit full blown visual hallucinations to real deep introspection, I've also had abdomen destroying laughter attacks and 4am $30 Taco Bell munchies.
...




When you mention full blown visual hallucinations, do you mean from edibles or from just smoking?




Didn't have an edible for the first 5 years and had numerous visual hallucinations. One instance I remember vividly is of the small room we were smoking in, first the colors all went into red scale monotone, proportions getting really funky (like I was small and a person 5ft from me was HUGE) then the walls began oozing and moving.

I have also had hallucinations on edibles, very different then smoking ones though.




Have smoked all day every day for the past 5 years.
Had a year of smoking nothing but kief.
Several grams per day under government medical license.

Have only ever had visual hallucinations on one occasion, from a very large dose of edibles.
Perhaps tolerance buildup is what mitigates much of the impact.
People in my day-to-day life are frequently unable to tell I am stoned unless I make them aware of it -- some are genuinely shocked to learn that they have never even interacted with me sober. :lol:

When you say "profound" what do you mean?
Was it the hallucinations were particularly impacting?
Did you feel some sort of "divine" guidance or purpose?




My tolerance is definitely lower than yours no doubt haha. I do not believe in any supernatural or really any spiritual stuff either. What I mean as profound is that single smoking sessions have completely changed my way of sober thinking. As far as the hallucinations, I haven't been shown any 'divine' stuff or at least I didn't take it for anything beyond face value. That is I saw it as I saw it, I didn't interpret it to mean anything other than 'the wall is melting' or 'Oh, it looks like I'm in water'.:eek:


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373587 - 10/13/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You seem to have skipped the first post in this thread


Have you ever sucked dick for weed?


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22373604 - 10/13/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I never said weed was weak. Soft and weak are two different things, I have had some crazy highs. I only remember one time where I would of been unable to drive, the first time I smoked I felt like I was in slow motion cartoon ville. And it wasnt legal for me to drive back then anyway, cause i was like 13 :lol:

Like i said, capable but not willing. Its really stressful, atleast IMO, to drive while *really* high. But its still possible. Ive done it many times and haven't crashed because of it yet.




My question isn't if weed is a strong substance, I personally know it is. My question is how has it become popular when other substances seem to be so far behind in becoming mainstream or at least acceptable?

Obviously you can take enough LSD to make driving impossible, but you could take pretty substantial LSD doses and still drive, I am sure there are multiple trip reports here of people doing just that. I do agree that it takes way more weed, very hard without concentrates or edibles, to get to a point where the physical act of driving is impossible, but it is possible I think.


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22373613 - 10/13/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You seem to have skipped the first post in this thread


Have you ever sucked dick for weed?




How do you get yours?


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373618 - 10/13/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got some hybrids right now that make me not want to think or move. Let alone drive.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373623 - 10/13/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed is like the baby drug of drugs...that is why

Of course, if all you've tried is weed... which I assume OP has never taken any other drug if he thinks weed is hard


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373624 - 10/13/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly think the legalization of marijuana was kind of a slip up on the governments side, but similar to alcohol, now that we've had it we won't give it up. But that's just an opinion I don't have many facts to back up.

As to why other psychedelics remain illegal, there are a few reasons.

I'd say first and foremost, it's because more potent psychedelics can be a lot more frightening. For example, I haven't really heard of anyone killing themselves or having a psychotic break on marijuana, although I can think of a few cases with LSD and Mushrooms, rare as they may be.

Another main reason is because the government knows what psychedelics do, they did extensive testing with LSD in the 50's, and what they found was that they open you up to the idea that everything you know to be true is wrong. Now to me, this sounds like an amazing effect, but the job of a government is to uphold the social structure of a society, often using the ignorance and the predetermined beliefs of the average person to achieve this, which is why it makes sense they might fear a substance that appears to make people question everything, including authority.

Lastly, I'd say they are having a lot of trouble becoming legal because of the massive amount of misinformation surrounding them, there are many, many people who don't know anything about psychedelics, and depending where they go to learn, they could be taught that they are dangerous substances, that can break your brain and make you mentally ill, however marijuana dodged most of this misinformation, because to the inexperienced user, it doesn't seem to be a psychedelic.


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Carbonobo]
    #22373635 - 10/13/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Not so long ago, before the internet, if you wanted to know anything about psychedellics you had to ask someone who knew, dug up some sketchy books, or tried them yourselves.

We'll get there, don't give up hope :smile:
If the government cracks down hard on mushrooms, like way harder than on cocaine for example, and people can just download how to grow their own mushrooms... well I think the genie is already out of the bottle :wink:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373636 - 10/13/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My tolerance is definitely lower than yours no doubt haha. I do not believe in any supernatural or really any spiritual stuff either. What I mean as profound is that single smoking sessions have completely changed my way of sober thinking. As far as the hallucinations, I haven't been shown any 'divine' stuff or at least I didn't take it for anything beyond face value. That is I saw it as I saw it, I didn't interpret it to mean anything other than 'the wall is melting' or 'Oh, it looks like I'm in water'.:eek:




Ah, okay, that I can relate to from my earlier days.
The whole thing seemed so different to me that it felt necessary to ask. :lol:


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373644 - 10/13/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is like the baby drug of drugs...that is why

Of course, if all you've tried is weed... which I assume OP has never taken any other drug if he thinks weed is hard




Okay, my question is why do you think weed is such a weak drug. Because I've had some crazy trips on it I would like to know what makes it so popular when other drugs that are similar in effect are so taboo still in mainstream society.

I have taken drugs considered much 'harder' than weed, but I still stand by my point that weed is the real deal and very strong.


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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373659 - 10/13/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What do you mean why?

Because I can smoke weed all day and laugh it off

Or I could not smoke weed for a year and take a hit and laugh it off

But I can't take a few hits of LSD and just laugh it off

I can't take a lot of mushrooms and just laugh it off

...etc etc


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
    #22373661 - 10/13/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's the mindset, I think.
They see it, as I saw it, as a drug to get all lazy and giggly with your friends, so that is what happened.
After using for some time, you'll see mama Ganja's real face, and SHE. IS. BEAUTIFUL!


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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Carbonobo]
    #22373697 - 10/13/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I honestly think the legalization of marijuana was kind of a slip up on the governments side, but similar to alcohol, now that we've had it we won't give it up. But that's just an opinion I don't have many facts to back up.

As to why other psychedelics remain illegal, there are a few reasons.

I'd say first and foremost, it's because more potent psychedelics can be a lot more frightening. For example, I haven't really heard of anyone killing themselves or having a psychotic break on marijuana, although I can think of a few cases with LSD and Mushrooms, rare as they may be.

Another main reason is because the government knows what psychedelics do, they did extensive testing with LSD in the 50's, and what they found was that they open you up to the idea that everything you know to be true is wrong. Now to me, this sounds like an amazing effect, but the job of a government is to uphold the social structure of a society, often using the ignorance and the predetermined beliefs of the average person to achieve this, which is why it makes sense they might fear a substance that appears to make people question everything, including authority.

Lastly, I'd say they are having a lot of trouble becoming legal because of the massive amount of misinformation surrounding them, there are many, many people who don't know anything about psychedelics, and depending where they go to learn, they could be taught that they are dangerous substances, that can break your brain and make you mentally ill, however marijuana dodged most of this misinformation, because to the inexperienced user, it doesn't seem to be a psychedelic.




My buddy for a bit had to stop smoking due to the fact that he said when he smoked he got real pannic attacks from not being able to think. He said he'd go to think a thought and nothing would happen :stoned2:, haha. I don't think this is a psychotic break but I do think heavy marijuana use effects the brain.

I agree that the government made a mistake in legalizing cannabis, as far as their own interests go. I think weed can be just as mind expanding as LSD. I am just surprised how cannabis has managed to get soooo far ahead of the others in terms of being accepted you know?


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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue,
      was Earth.


I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.   
  I didn't feel like a giant,
      I felt very, very small...

-Neil Armstrong


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