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Also I agree that at least edible cannabis (since it turns into a different metabolite than thc when digested {11-Hydroxy somthing} you'll have to forgive me I'm really high on a new substance ) IS a psychedelic with the right ROA/right dose.
I've straight seen my best friend rip 6 hits of whole nug run SSH top shelf shatter from a first gen g-pen. This was after a year tolerance break. He tripped NUTS for a solid 2 hours. Believe it or not if you read "Confessions of an Amerikan Hashish Eater" you can find some rather interesting trip reports that mirror those of LSD reports from the 1960's. Chicago had secret clubs where they'd inbibe and then share their experiences. It's incredibly interesting stuff actually.
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Herb is a very serious drug nowadays. It used to generally be a lot weaker, though bomb weed always existed, you smoked it and you basically giggled, daydreamed and munched, it was sold by the lid for cheap, now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.
People were all about being connaisseurs and growing your own, now its grown by Big Crime and people are so desperate they scrape the tar from their pipe and re-smoke that if they run out.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .
But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.
Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Asante] 1
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Asante said: now a gram is ten bucks plus and you get knocked the fuck out, couchlock, anqiety, turning ghost white, memory disruptions on the day after.
I must not be smoking good enough weed then, I don't get these symptoms
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
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weed is the easiest "illegal" drug to promote because of the medical benefits. that's why it slipped into the mainstream. it's pretty hard for someone to argue that something which eases pain for terminally ill people should stay illegal.
the plant's power is definitely under-estimated nowadays though...all it takes for me is one hit of dank and i'm straight tripping for about 2 hours. (that's with no tolerance btw, no longer a frequent user).
i don't mean tripping in the sense of visuals or anything, but like my perception of reality itself is heavily altered to a noticeable degree. when i smoke almost everything that happens feels like a synchronicity of some sort. i start seeing patterns in everything and making connections between really far out things. not all of the connections are grounded though, some of them are really delusional.
i find cannabis to be very psychedelic personally, on the level of pure perception at least. it sort of blasts open your imagination while at the same time scrambling it and making everything kind of confusing. like some intense, waking lucid dream or something.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Hemuli]
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .
But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.
Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?
Oh no, dude, it's because weed's a hardcore psychedelic. One hit and you're gigglin' with the DMT elves.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .
But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.
Or maybe OP just doesn't have any tolerance to weed and then affects him differently?
Oh no, dude, it's because weed's a hardcore psychedelic. One hit and you're gigglin' with the DMT elves.
How bout ya stop making arguments from your personal incredulity and open your mind up. There now has been a handful of people in this single thread detailing their personal psychedelic experiences in varying degrees from cannabis.
Also the fact you think someone can have stronger effects from a substance that you cannot makes them childish is pretty stupid in general.
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Kinda silly if you ask me,
That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.
If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.
Technically this has been well researched and Buddhist monks actually produce HIGH levels of DiMethylTryptamine during deep states of meditation. Sure it takes 40 years of sweeping an ashraam. But even Stanislov Grov moved over to holotropic breathing after LSD therapy essentially became outlawed. You don't think there could be SOME connection there?
And I'm really not trying to knock you, I'm just saying your view of this subject seems a little narrow.
Once again I agree with you, I have no idea how the monks achieve their experience, but if it is by somehow willing themselves subconsciously or consciously to increase DMT levels that is awesome.
I have no doubt that someone somewhere has had a psychedelic experience without taking a foreign substance.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22380256 - 10/14/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whatever you say, dude
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
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i think alot of the daily smokers aren't getting as intense of a weed experience due to high tolerance, SaltyPeaks. i challenge anyone to go a month or two without smoking then do just one bong rip of ANY good sativa bud...you're going to be pretty fucking altered and it's going to be quite the head trip.
everytime i smoke it's with "no tolerance" and it's fucking insane.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: resonant111]
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everytime i smoke it's with "no tolerance" and it's fucking insane.
Probably right, I think my infrequent use definitely has increased the strength of the experience. That is why I am surprised that cannabis has made it into the mainstream so easily, I am sure that LSD could be micro-dosed daily and the effects would be very positive in many cases. Same goes for most other psychs, but there is the obvious dilemma that in higher doses they begin to exceed the limit of cannabis.
Still though I find that a substance, under the right circumstances, can get you to a level 3 trip being looked at by many as equal to coffee or Tylenol is surprising.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
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Does the benedryl produce hallucination and mind expansion? If so then yeah, you could call it a psychedelic.
Regardless, Weed's not a psychedelic. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean it's a psychedelic.
One day, you'll take some real drugs, then you'll understand.
You read that as me saying benedryl is a psych? Your reading comprehension is of a 3rd grader dude. It's a if, then statement. Not a defining statement ya goof.
This guy knows his logic. Claiming "if A, then B" is not at all the same thing as claiming B. If A happens to be false, then "if A, then B" makes no claim about the truth of B.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: psi]
#22380437 - 10/14/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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But A is true, so what of B?
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: But A is true, so what of B?
Then B...Are you retarded?
I have not taken, nor know much about benadryl, but if the effects on you fill the definition of a psychedelic would it not be one? If not then you have a paradox. Again, this is you claiming it fills the definition, not I, so it is you claiming the paradox.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: But A is true, so what of B?
The point is, he didn't claim A (in your quote anyway, haven't read the whole thread.) If you yourself are claiming A, then that's quite different from him claiming it.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
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They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?
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wait, why is this thread still going? i read the first few pages and the was already too much
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: They don't but according to you they do. All I said was that you will definitely see things if you take enough benadryl. You said that makes it a Psychedelic.

Please tell me you're trolling. It hurts my heart to think there's really someone this stupid out in the world. Do they let you drive?
Wow, you really cannot go back and read, can you? My definition, now for the THIRD TIME, is :relating to or denoting drugs that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.
Also for the THIRD TIME, I have not taken benadryl, know pretty much nothing about it, so how could I say it is a psych? Again, FOR THE THIRD TIME, all I did was give the definition, you were the one that said benadryl fit it, you are the one who keeps saying it is. Please get that through your dense skull.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22380530 - 10/14/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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salty dont even lie, you just trying to rack them posts up
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Psychedelics yummy said: wait, why is this thread still going? i read the first few pages and the was already too much
I keep it going in hopes that someone will try and have an intelligent discussion with me pertaining to my original questions. So far there has actually been a few, which is awesome.
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