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SaltyPeaks
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Also, Sleep deprivation causes more realistic hallucinations than anything. Does that make Methamphetamine a psychedelic?
I highly doubt it. It certainly doesn't fit my definition of having a mind expanding quality, and being sleep deprived is a secondary effect not from the molecule so technically meth itself does not cause hallucinations, sleep deprivation does.
Oddly though it fits your definition for a psychedelic...
You've kinda dug yourself into a deep hole, might be best to buzz off to another thread.
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TheGreenArrow said: Not when you're basically shitting on an age old hermetic/esoteric tradition that's been passed down for ages and ages. Sure he may not believe in it, but to call it "silly" is out-right hogwash. 
Where did I call it silly?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379162 - 10/14/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go trip off some weed, lightweight
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379167 - 10/14/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said:
You've kinda dug yourself into a deep hole, might be best to buzz off to another thread.
What "hole" have a dug myself in?
Wow, I really thought I'd never meet anyone stupider on here than AlexStalex, but you win the cake.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: Asante]
#22379176 - 10/14/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Weed is really shit for drug testing though, they can detect it for weeks.
No doubt, at first this seems like a mark against it in becoming legal. But also you could see it like this: People all over do all kinds of drugs, including cannabis, but the one that keeps getting people in trouble is weed because its one of the easiest to detect. People could be more inclined to fight for its legalization so that they aren't punished for using. A substance like DMT is extremely hard to detect so far less people feel the need to fight for legalization because no one is getting punished for positive DMT test.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379190 - 10/14/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinda silly if you ask me,
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SaltyPeaks
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Go trip off some weed, lightweight 
Your response are the only thing lightweight here, come up with some real valid points and maybe I'll listen.
So far you responses have been a mixture of "I say so, so it is true", "I can't get that high off weed, can't be true then", and "I've done real drugs, you haven't".
All of these are extremely stupid and point to a very close-minded self centered person.
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant, I felt very, very small... -Neil Armstrong
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379199 - 10/14/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said:
Definitely have had those highs. It sounds to me though that the "put something on the telly, get comfortable and not watch the telly but instead think about stuff" is what is hurting, not the cannabis. Try taking a hike, run, or doing some are and toking half way in, don't do it first or you're more liable to sit down and blow off the fun activity.
Sorry, I guess I didnt explain it right. I do all sorts of things on ganja, especially taking a hike is great, but even cleaning the house works. The high itself is no problem, I love it. It's the day after that is the problem. I get up really diffuclt, I'm sluggish until about way in the afternoon, I am less social then I normally I am, and disasciosiatif like crazy. So I'll be taking it easy for a while.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379201 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should really check out Robert Anton Wilson. You're gonna be a funny one.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379205 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said:
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Go trip off some weed, lightweight 
Your response are the only thing lightweight here, come up with some real valid points and maybe I'll listen.
So far you responses have been a mixture of "I say so, so it is true", "I can't get that high off weed, can't be true then", and "I've done real drugs, you haven't".
All of these are extremely stupid and point to a very close-minded self centered person.
So............you've sucked dick for weed?
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379209 - 10/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whatever you say bro. You're whole argument is "Ermagerd, Weed makes me see colors! Anything that makes you see colors is a psychedelic!"
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SaltyPeaks
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Kinda silly if you ask me,
That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.
If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.
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I just read a Terence McKenna book, and he calls weed a mild psychedellic.
Just saying, not that I care, but just saying...
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Whatever you say bro. You're whole argument is "Ermagerd, Weed makes me see colors! Anything that makes you see colors is a psychedelic!"
Wow, are you seriously this dumb? I clearly defined what a psychedelic is in my opinion. "relating to or denoting drugs that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness."
Also, the reality is that I am not really arguing, all I'm doing is correcting you ever single post because of your apparent inability to go back a few posts and read it. Get a grip dude, some people have different opinions and experiences than you.
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I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant, I felt very, very small... -Neil Armstrong
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379324 - 10/14/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .
But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.
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Oh shit, I just realized that you're the "You guys are taking drugs wrong" guy 
Uzz was right, we're getting trolled
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: Whatever you say bro. I'm gonna go smoke a bowl, maybe I'll trip . . .
But probably not because I'm a grown man, not a twelve year old.
Famous last words!
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O my God, y'allz. I smokd a bowl and now im c-ing dragons.
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weed ain't a psychedelic, its out there in its own category separated from other drugs. If anything it's a partial cannabinoid receptor agonist.
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Re: Why is weed taken so lightly? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22379430 - 10/14/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kinda silly if you ask me,
That was after pointing out his definition for psychedelics would not only include cannabis, which he is vehemently opposed to, but also many other things like a B vitamin/Alcohol/Book mixture. I never said anything about what you are talking about.
If the shaman or people you're talking about achieve hallucinations and mind expansion (my definition of a psych) then I would have no issue saying they had a psychedelic experience. I wouldn't say that meditation and Buddhist study is a psychedelic substance, but only because it isn't a substance.
Technically this has been well researched and Buddhist monks actually produce HIGH levels of DiMethylTryptamine during deep states of meditation. Sure it takes 40 years of sweeping an ashraam. But even Stanislov Grov moved over to holotropic breathing after LSD therapy essentially became outlawed. You don't think there could be SOME connection there?
And I'm really not trying to knock you, I'm just saying your view of this subject seems a little narrow.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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