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Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges * 2
    #22370653 - 10/12/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Seems like cops aren't only allowed to kill people with guns, they get to drive as fast as they want and kill people with their cars.

This story is from the summer, but with all the focus on cops shooting people this one slipped by without notice.

Hers the dash cam video. Literally the pedestrian is only visible in one frame the cop was driving so fast.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/arlington-heights/news/ct-arh-wheeling-dash-cam-tl-0724-20150723-story.html

I found this story when reading about an accident today in DC. A cop driving through downtown street hit a pedestrian while driving in excess of 60mph. The pedestrian was side swiped and the cop wiped out.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods] * 2
    #22370792 - 10/12/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not too surprised. Cops are the scum of the earth. Even the "good" cops are bad because they don't do anything about all of the corrupt cops.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22370821 - 10/12/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why the hell is someone trying to cross a 4 lane road at night?

What if a citizen hit that person going slightly above the speed limit, should they be charged for hitting someone that's jaywalking on a 4 lane highway? I don't think so.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370825 - 10/12/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The pedestrian should have known better than to take a walk and impede hat cops travels so stupidly


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370845 - 10/12/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I dunno the reasoning in this particular case, but there are instances that warrant hauling ass and not using sirens or lights. See how dark that road is? I didn't even really see him the first time I watched it. It all depends on the exact circumstances, but this is one instance where it's possible no amount of negligence could be put on the cop.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22370849 - 10/12/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Woulda seen him if he flipped his brights on after going by oncoming. Guy shouldn't be allowed to drive let alone be a cop.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: qman]
    #22370852 - 10/12/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why the hell is someone trying to cross a 4 lane road at night?

What if a citizen hit that person going slightly above the speed limit, should they be charged for hitting someone that's jaywalking on a 4 lane highway? I don't think so.




He was driving over 100 mph. Also that road did not have designated cross walks anywhere near where he was hit.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22370858 - 10/12/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I dunno the reasoning in this particular case, but there are instances that warrant hauling ass and not using sirens or lights. See how dark that road is? I didn't even really see him the first time I watched it. It all depends on the exact circumstances, but this is one instance where it's possible no amount of negligence could be put on the cop.




He drive past a vehicle that looked like it was speeding, so he turned around and drove over 100 mph to catch up. :facepalm:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370879 - 10/12/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why the hell is someone trying to cross a 4 lane road at night?

What if a citizen hit that person going slightly above the speed limit, should they be charged for hitting someone that's jaywalking on a 4 lane highway? I don't think so.




He was driving over 100 mph. Also that road did not have designated cross walks anywhere near where he was hit.




Cops are allowed to drive that fast, pedestrians are not allowed to cross a road like that because anyone could hit them, including citizens obeying the speed limit.

The guy that got hit was also drunk and didn't use proper judgment, that's not the fault of a driver who hits him.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370881 - 10/12/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If that is the case, then yes, he's liable.

The times when not using the siren would be something like a raid or a hostage situation. Stuff along those lines where you don't want the bad guys knowing you're coming for them.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22370906 - 10/12/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

in b4 pris says the cop was just doing his job


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: qman] * 2
    #22370931 - 10/12/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why the hell is someone trying to cross a 4 lane road at night?

What if a citizen hit that person going slightly above the speed limit, should they be charged for hitting someone that's jaywalking on a 4 lane highway? I don't think so.




He was driving over 100 mph. Also that road did not have designated cross walks anywhere near where he was hit.




Cops are allowed to drive that fast, pedestrians are not allowed to cross a road like that because anyone could hit them, including citizens obeying the speed limit.

The guy that got hit was also drunk and didn't use proper judgment, that's not the fault of a driver who hits him.




Why didn't he use his lights and sirens? The point of those is to warn citizens that their vehicle is driving faster than would be expected in the road they are driving. I doubt it is illegal to cross that road. Like I said the previous intersection didn't even have a cross walk. Here's the reason he didn't use his lights and siren: he wanted to catch the guy speeding so he could get another notch in his belt and make.some cash for his pathetic little town.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370961 - 10/12/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If he had hit a car turning out onto the road, he would have been liable. People have to use judgement based on the speed limit of the road and the distance of an approaching car. If a car is approaching at twice the speed one would expect, the judgement is bad but it's the fault of the driver going twice the speed limit. The guy crossing the street would have had plenty of time if the cop wasn't driving 100mph


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods] * 1
    #22370971 - 10/12/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Most civilized places have rules about not engaging in high speed chases unless there is a very good reason. Thinking that someone might be speeding is not one of those situations.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22370996 - 10/12/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If he had hit a car turning out onto the road, he would have been liable. People have to use judgement based on the speed limit of the road and the distance of an approaching car. If a car is approaching at twice the speed one would expect, the judgement is bad but it's the fault of the driver going twice the speed limit. The guy crossing the street would have had plenty of time if the cop wasn't driving 100mph




"If he had hit a car turning onto the road, he would have been liable"

I'm not sure if that is true, but there's a big difference between a car that is legally allowed to be on that road and a drunk person jaywalking on it.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22371023 - 10/12/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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To play devil's advocate most of the people on the freeway in cali drive between 80-100mph; so the fact that a cop was driving that fast doesn't really surprise me much.

Not to say the cop should be excuse; a civilian definitely wouldn't be; and imo cops should be held to a higher standard as they are supposed to be protecting us. That said cops are just human and humans speed and make mistakes constantly. Not to mention the fact that cops undergo a hell of a lot more stress then the average person thus I often excuse them for little excesses like blowing red lights and speeding; that said it still pisses me off when they bust me for doing the same thing lol.

All in all, humans aren't perfect; should we just go around blaming and hating one another?
We can, but usually that doesn't get us very far; instead we should try and learn from these mistakes and work at improving ourselves that way we avoid them in the future.

In this case cops should be more vigilant and stop being so careless when they drive.




It wasn't a limited access highway. It was a just a road and he had just driven through an intersection 10 seconds before he hit the dude.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22371041 - 10/12/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He ran across the middle of a road.

People don't belong in the middle of the road when there is little to no visibility.

Are people suppose to be on the road? No.

Do I think the cop should have been going 100 (Yes if he was trying to catch up to someone going 60 in a 35 - YES!!)

Do I think he should have been going 100 without his sirens/lights on? No.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22371046 - 10/12/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Even the "good" cops are bad because they don't do anything about all of the corrupt cops.




You could say the same thing about people in the hippie scene, there are just as many scumbags walking around preaching peace and love, who don't practice what they preach.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22371054 - 10/12/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In Illinois if an intersection does not have a marked crosswalk you are
Permitted to cross the road at any point along the road


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22371070 - 10/12/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22371082 - 10/12/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Seems like cops aren't only allowed to kill people with guns, they get to drive as fast as they want and kill people with their cars.

This story is from the summer, but with all the focus on cops shooting people this one slipped by without notice.

Hers the dash cam video. Literally the pedestrian is only visible in one frame the cop was driving so fast.



http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/arlington-heights/news/ct-arh-wheeling-dash-cam-tl-0724-20150723-story.html

I found this story when reading about an accident today in DC. A cop driving through downtown street hit a pedestrian while driving in excess of 60mph. The pedestrian was side swiped and the cop wiped out.





he was running across a road into on comming traffic, jay walking no less

his own stupidity, I learned to look both ways before crossing the road


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22371088 - 10/12/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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In Illinois if an intersection does not have a marked crosswalk you are
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and are the cars all supposed to stop or are you supposed to yield to the oncoming vehicles?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22371095 - 10/12/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Especially if a car is barreling at you going 100mph.

I mean how did he not hear the car?
Also did the cop have his headlights off or something?
I mean how'd the guy not see that?

I'm willing to bet money dead guy was drunk or high as a kite.




He tried to outrun the car. Slow it down and look at it. The dude was running across the street and he thought he could beat the car.

There is not much else for a 20 year old to be doing up at 5 AM on the streets if he wasn't fucked up


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22371707 - 10/13/15 02:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

musta been likes "oops, lol":shrug:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Konyap]
    #22371708 - 10/13/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

wow that cops a fucking moron


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Konyap]
    #22371714 - 10/13/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well it looks like he was going 60
for what reason i dont know


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Konyap]
    #22371718 - 10/13/15 02:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it really looks like the pedestrian ran out infront of him


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Konyap]
    #22372040 - 10/13/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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wow that cops a fucking moron





and the guy that ran out in front of his car was a regular fucking einstein


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22372086 - 10/13/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

ive had a cop do this with me in the back through traffic. he was trying to scare me and make me feel out of control. over a bs call, i was selling magzines but appearantly had been wearing a balaclava. my buddy had a smart mouth and knew his rights to not be booked over a civil charge. thecop insistd he had to, my compadre argued. SOP is different than the law unfortunately.
Still the cop was acting like a child. wouldnt talk just sped through red lights like he was god. i said he should have his lights on, his reply was to mash the peddal...i think he thought it was my throat. Sugarland tx pd.
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: AcidBath]
    #22372113 - 10/13/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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ive had a cop do this with me in the back through traffic. he was trying to scare me and make me feel out of control. over a bs call, i was selling magzines but appearantly had been wearing a balaclava. my buddy had a smart mouth and knew his rights to not be booked over a civil charge.





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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22372463 - 10/13/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In defense of the cop, I didn't see the guy all either. He was wearing dark clothes... Also, why was he running across the street like that? In the middle of the night....

I sucks for the guy, but no matter who was driving that car, that dude was gonna get ran over...


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Patlal]
    #22372467 - 10/13/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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why was he running across the street like that? In the middle of the night....





to become famous

it worked

not as well as he had hoped because only koods found this video

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22372554 - 10/13/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The pedestrian was obviously attacking the cop. Clear case of self-defense.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Sun King]
    #22372607 - 10/13/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If the timing was a second different, i could have easily been t-boned by a cop running a stop sign 2 months or so ago.  I had no sign so i was just passing through and whoosh!, cop blazes by lightless right in front ov me doing about 50 in a 25.  I was T-boned by a civilian a few days later instead. 

That police borough is okay though; i have driving violation immunity from them(even dui) because ov the pizzas.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: lavod]
    #22373293 - 10/13/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My parents taught me at an early age not to cross when cars are coming. Too bad the idiot that got hit didn't have parents that did the same.

The gene pool is better for it.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373376 - 10/13/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

FUCK THE POLICE. MURDERING, SELF-RIGHTOUS, DANGEROUS DONT-GIVE-A-FUCK RETARDS!!!


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373409 - 10/13/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lucis]
    #22373432 - 10/13/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Even the "good" cops are bad because they don't do anything about all of the corrupt cops.




You could say the same thing about people in the hippie scene, there are just as many scumbags walking around preaching peace and love, who don't practice what they preach.

You can't change another unless that person wants to change.




You might not be able to change the corrupt cops, but can get them fired. If a cop sees another cop beating someone, killing someone, taking bribes, and so on then the other cop should make it known publicly that the cop is corrupt. If this happens enough then our police force would get cleaned up. Instead they just defend eachother even when they are in the wrong.

If I'm at a concert or gathering and I see a hippy doing something that isn't shroomy than I call them out on it. I don't defend them or look the other way.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373450 - 10/13/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

all cops need to be exterminated.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22373456 - 10/13/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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FUCK THE POLICE. MURDERING, SELF-RIGHTOUS, DANGEROUS DONT-GIVE-A-FUCK RETARDS!!!




Fuck those too stupid to look before crossing.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373488 - 10/13/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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LogicaL Chaos said:
FUCK THE POLICE. MURDERING, SELF-RIGHTOUS, DANGEROUS DONT-GIVE-A-FUCK RETARDS!!!




Fuck those too stupid to look before crossing.

May the gene pool be cleansed of them. Soon.



No fuck the cops for defending each other when they break the law


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22373497 - 10/13/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No fuck the cops for defending each other when they break the law




No, fuck those too stupid to look before crossing.

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    #22373499 - 10/13/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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all cops need to be exterminated.



I dont know about exterminated but they need to be held accountable , give them all a raise 3-4 dollar raise for every police officer out there , make them wear a body cam and if they abuse their power or break the law in anyway they will have to serve 5x what a normal citizen would do.  Also 50,000 dollars in fine... Lets see how many corrupt cops are left after that:lookslucrative:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373511 - 10/13/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No fuck the cops for defending each other when they break the law




No, fuck those too stupid to look before crossing.

May the gene pool be cleansed of them. Soon.



You and many other people are lucky people like me are not cops , with morons like you defending the cops at any cost they can basicly get away with anything.... And im sure alot of them are abusive for that same very reason.:stanhopefacepalm:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22373517 - 10/13/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

umm, the rules dont apply to cops op, this is well known.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373535 - 10/13/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How do you know he didn't look before he crossed? He probably seen how fast the other cars were going and thought he could cross in time.  I'm guessing he couldn't tell that the cop was speeding, maybe because it is really dark, plus the cop didn't have his emergency lights on.

Fuck those people that are too stupid to turn their emergency lights on when they are speeding through a city where people cross the road. There is a reason we have speed limits and emergency lights.
May the gene pool be cleansed of them.

You know if a civilian is speeding down the road and hits a pedestrian, that is crossing the road, they will most likely be charged.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22373542 - 10/13/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You and many other people are lucky people like me are not cops , with morons like you defending the cops at any cost they can basicly get away with anything.... And im sure alot of them are abusive for that same very reason.




Except I'm not "defending the cops at any cost". How sad for you that you aren't clever enough to realize that.

I'd say the same about an idiot that walked in front of your car.

Fuck those too stupid to look before crossing.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22373543 - 10/13/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.




No one said he deserved to be killed. :facepalm:  It was an unfortunate incident, the pedestrian was double the legal limit for alcohol and didn't use proper judgment.  The investigation find that to be the case, end of story.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373552 - 10/13/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you know he didn't look before he crossed? He probably seen how fast the other cars were going and thought he could cross in time.




I don't. However, whether he didn't look or did look but went anyway...

Fuck those too stupid to look before crossing, or who look but cross anyway.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373562 - 10/13/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You know if a civilian is speeding down the road and hits a pedestrian, that is crossing the road, they will most likely be charged.




Depends how fast a civilian is over the speed limit, going 5-10 mph over the limit and hitting someone who's jaywalking in the middle of the street isn't going to be charged. That idiot tried crossing 4 lanes of traffic, not smart.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373569 - 10/13/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Lophosaurus said:
Even the "good" cops are bad because they don't do anything about all of the corrupt cops.




You could say the same thing about people in the hippie scene, there are just as many scumbags walking around preaching peace and love, who don't practice what they preach.

You can't change another unless that person wants to change.




You might not be able to change the corrupt cops, but can get them fired. If a cop sees another cop beating someone, killing someone, taking bribes, and so on then the other cop should make it known publicly that the cop is corrupt. If this happens enough then our police force would get cleaned up. Instead they just defend eachother even when they are in the wrong.

If I'm at a concert or gathering and I see a hippy doing something that isn't shroomy than I call them out on it. I don't defend them or look the other way.





Have you ever been in a position where doing the right thing might get you fired, or make your life a living hell?  I know some people might say so what fuck it get fired, it's the right thing to do, but if you have a family and really can't afford to get fired you might turn a blind eye to others lack of understanding.  I think this is why many people don't want to report those that do wrong, they don't want any trouble.

I am in no way supporting the police, or the person killed here, I am just wondering what goes through peoples minds when they do such things, if they had malicious intent and said "I'm a cop, therefore I am untouchable" or if they thought "Gotta make that money and look good for the sarge, ima catch this guy"

I hope to understand the human mind better by showing empathy, by trying to understand all races, all walks of life, not just saying "hey I love drugs so therefore I must hate the police", to me that would show that I have learned nothing from entering the void.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22373603 - 10/13/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.






I never once said the guy deserved to be killed. I said he was fucking stupid. And he was. And he died because he was stupid.

Now go fuck off with your cry baby shit.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373616 - 10/13/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I never once said the guy deserved to be killed. I said he was fucking stupid. And he was. And he died because he was stupid.

Now go fuck off with your cry baby shit.




But... but... it's all he has. Well, that and an ability he or she shares with so many others, an inability to comprehend words.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: lavod]
    #22373630 - 10/13/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This incident shows how clearly underfunded police departments are in America. What this cop needed is a flir guided autofiring minigun turret. Then he could have blasted that evil, wreckless danger to public safety speeder away; without having to resort to his amazing driving skill.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373642 - 10/13/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
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Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.






I never once said the guy deserved to be killed. I said he was fucking stupid. And he was. And he died because he was stupid.

Now go fuck off with your cry baby shit.




Except you are ignoring the part where the cop was driving twice the road's speed limit without emergency lights or sirens. The reason cops have lights and sirens is to warn people that they aren't driving like a normal automobile. Why does the cop get away with this? It cost someone their life.

This cop put catching a possible speeder and getting another ticket in his name and some cash for his town above the safety of its citizens. That is unacceptable.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373666 - 10/13/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If a normal citizen hit a pedestrian while driving 100 mph, nobody would be blaming the victim. The driver would go to jail.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373682 - 10/13/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Idk if u guys have ever stood on the side of the road when a car going 100 or more has gone by. Its like super hard to tell how fast they are going at a distance until they blow past especially at night. dewd was def trying to creep up on the speeder and splattered the dewd crossin the street. Idk bout u but if u drive around in the city drunk and high people cross the street all the time its like a thing in cities cuz people dont usually have cars but they gotta get crack somehow thats why you dont do oveer 100 in a 35 :shrug:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373688 - 10/13/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd still think the victim was an idiot for being too stupid to look before crossing, or who looked but crossed anyway.

In the end, that person is as responsible for the event as the one who hit him.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373692 - 10/13/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.






I never once said the guy deserved to be killed. I said he was fucking stupid. And he was. And he died because he was stupid.

Now go fuck off with your cry baby shit.




Except you are ignoring the part where the cop was driving twice the road's speed limit without emergency lights or sirens. The reason cops have lights and sirens is to warn people that they aren't driving like a normal automobile. Why does the cop get away with this? It cost someone their life.

This cop put catching a possible speeder and getting another ticket in his name and some cash for his town above the safety of its citizens. That is unacceptable.




Ignore?

I think you're the one who has completely ignored my previous posts where I've stated the cop is at fault as well.

That doesn't make what the guy did any less stupid though.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22373702 - 10/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Idk if u guys have ever stood on the side of the road when a car going 100 or more has gone by. Its like super hard to tell how fast they are going at a distance until they blow past especially at night. dewd was def trying to creep up on the speeder and splattered the dewd crossin the street. Idk bout u but if u drive around in the city drunk and high people cross the street all the time its like a thing in cities cuz people dont usually have cars but they gotta get crack somehow thats why you dont do oveer 100 in a 35 :shrug:




If it's that hard for you to tell, you wait until the car is past.

Or do you look and say... "well, I can't really tell how fast that car is going so I'm going for it"?


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    #22373708 - 10/13/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd still think the victim was an idiot for being too stupid to look before crossing, or who looked but crossed anyway.

In the end, that person is as responsible for the event as the one who hit him.



he could have looked saw a car like thousands of feet away n started to cross thinkin dewd was doing 35 and then next second hes folded up in a windshield its how things like this happen :flowstone:


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    #22373718 - 10/13/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd still think the victim was an idiot for being too stupid to look before crossing, or who looked but crossed anyway.

In the end, that person is as responsible for the event as the one who hit him.



he could have looked saw a car like thousands of feet away n started to cross thinkin dewd was doing 35 and then next second hes folded up in a windshield its how things like this happen




Yup. Which is why you wait if you're not sure.

Thanks for reinforcing the point.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373727 - 10/13/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There aren't exactly a lot of cars at out at 5 AM. You'd think that you could wait an extra 10 seconds to cross the road.


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    #22373746 - 10/13/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe his chicken was on the other side of the road and he needed to grab it before it got away? :shrug:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373755 - 10/13/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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There aren't exactly a lot of cars at out at 5 AM. You'd think that you could wait an extra 10 seconds to cross the road.




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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22373759 - 10/13/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe his chicken was on the other side of the road and he needed to grab it before it got away? :shrug:




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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373773 - 10/13/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

theres like certian limit of like how far away something is and the speed at which its going where it is imposible to determine whether or not say a vehicle is going 35mph vs 100mph.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22373788 - 10/13/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You keep reinforcing my point.

You wait if you're not sure.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373813 - 10/13/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

well thats the thing that wont go thru your incredibly thick skull he might have been mistaken because the cop was driving extraordinarily fast.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22373819 - 10/13/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373831 - 10/13/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is all missing the point. Why is a cop not charged with negligent homocide if he doesn't employ his sirens designed just to help avoid this kind of thing. Are you all seriously going to argue this guy would have still been hit if he saw a cop car coming at him with sirens blasting?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22373836 - 10/13/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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well thats the thing that wont go thru your incredibly think skull he might have been mistaken because the cop was driving extraordinarily fast.




Ah yes... insults. Thanks for conceding defeat.

Doesn't matter how fast the car was going, you don't walk in front of one unless you're sure. And as you so helpfully pointed out, it can be hard to be sure. So you wait.

He didn't. He's dead. The gene pool is better off as a result.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373839 - 10/13/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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This is all missing the point. Why is a cop not charged with negligent homocide if he doesn't employ his sirens designed just to help avoid this kind of thing. Are you all seriously going to argue this guy would have still been hit if he saw a cop car coming at him with sirens blasting?




If he violated the law, he should be charged.

Did he violate the law?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373852 - 10/13/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It does matter how fast the car is going. Speed is the amount of distance covered in a period of time. If you are twice the speed limit it takes half the amount of time to go from point a to point b. It's even harder to judge the amount of time if someone is accelerating towards you.

Again, why wasn't this cop charged with homicide? If a citizen killed someone driving 50 mph over the speed limit they would be in jail.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373857 - 10/13/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Of course he violated the law. Speeding, reckless driving, and vehicular manslaughter.


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    #22373858 - 10/13/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373886 - 10/13/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It does matter how fast the car is going. Speed is the amount of distance covered in a period of time. If you are twice the speed limit it takes half the amount of time to go from point a to point b. It's even harder to judge the amount of time if someone is accelerating towards you.




Golly. Really?

:lmafo:

At the end of the day, we are each responsible for our own safety. If you aren't sure, you wait.

Or in koods world does it go something like this... "I'm not sure how fast that car is going or if I can safely make it across, but fuck it. I'm going for it anyway."


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Again, why wasn't this cop charged with homicide? If a citizen killed someone driving 50 mph over the speed limit they would be in jail.




Did he break the law? Kindly show us which one.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373891 - 10/13/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course he violated the law. Speeding, reckless driving, and vehicular manslaughter.




So then charge him... if you can.

Except cops can speed when in pursuit, he wasn't driving recklessly and the pedestrian shares the fault.

But hey, other than that...


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373919 - 10/13/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.

He didn't even break a law.

People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22373937 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, the pedestrian is not to blame . The cop was speeding, and I think by law going 20mph over the limit is reckless driving. It is also reckless to drive emergency style with the emergency lights off.

Obviously I can't charge him and when do cops ever get charged anyways? They mostly always get a free pass because they are cops. That is why I was saying that the good cops shouldn't stand for this behavior.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373940 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.

He didn't even break a law.

People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.




That doesn't fit in with the "cops are bad, mkay" narrative.

Are you one of those radicals that wait until you're sure it's safe to cross before heading across a street?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22373941 - 10/13/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I just wish the cop had swerved into a tree and died after annihilating the drunk guy...would it even be news then? Probably not.. Also if you havent figured out by now that cops are actually above the law then Idk what to tell you. Unless they are caught red handed on video with audio explaining in elementary terms what happened, they always get out of any charges that may be filed against them, and paid leave ofc.  Police in my county are required to enable sirens OR lights when operating at speeds above the posted speed limit, maybe thats not such a bad ordinance?


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    #22373949 - 10/13/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Uzziel, flashing lights don't wake up the neighborhood. Nice try though.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22373950 - 10/13/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, the pedestrian is not to blame . The cop was speeding, and I think by law going 20mph over the limit is reckless driving. It is also reckless to drive emergency style with the emergency lights off.




Except cops can legally exceed the limit, he wasn't driving recklessly, and the idiot that got hit shares the blame.

But other than that... you're spot on.


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Obviously I can't charge him and when do cops ever get charged anyways? They mostly always get a free pass because they are cops. That is why I was saying that the good cops shouldn't stand for this behavior.




Cops do and have been charged. No-one can help that you missed it.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373956 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.

He didn't even break a law.

People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.





:orly:

so if a cop is speeding down the road, passing through stop signs and red lights, they aren't required to have their lights and sirens on?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22373959 - 10/13/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They are require to have one or the other or both.


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    #22373970 - 10/13/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They are require to have one or the other or both.




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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373972 - 10/13/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It does matter how fast the car is going. Speed is the amount of distance covered in a period of time. If you are twice the speed limit it takes half the amount of time to go from point a to point b. It's even harder to judge the amount of time if someone is accelerating towards you.

Again, why wasn't this cop charged with homicide? If a citizen killed someone driving 50 mph over the speed limit they would be in jail.




It's even harder when you're drunk, as said pedestrian was.

A life sentence for vehicular manslaughter would be a walk in the park for this guy; his only other option is an inevitable encounter with Koods' Giant Purple Anal Violator of (intenet vigalante?) Justice..


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22373975 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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They are require to have one or the other or both.




You can of course point to the law that mandates that in the state the incident occurred in?


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    #22373976 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thjs wasn't even an emergency situation. He drove past a guy he thought might be speeding. He never got a radar on the the guy. That's why he didn't use his lights and sirens. He wanted to be able to clock the guy. Using his lights and siren would obviously cause the guy to drive the speed limit. The cop wasn't interested in public safety, he was interested in writing a nice meaty ticket.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373978 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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They are require to have one or the other or both.




Nope





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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22373980 - 10/13/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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They are require to have one or the other or both.




Nope





If so, you think this is reasonable? To chase a suspected speeder?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22373985 - 10/13/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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Police aren’t required to use their emergency lights when responding to a crime. They are more hesistant to use it at night in residential areas because its very loud and will wake people up.

He didn't even break a law.

People here are just butthurt or something I don't even know.





:orly:

so if a cop is speeding down the road, passing through stop signs and red lights, they aren't required to have their lights and sirens on?




He didn't go through red lights or stop signs. It was a straight away. Police do this all the time when they want to catch up to a speeder without letting the speeder know they are there.

Police can't just go tumbling through red lights or stop sign without a good reason, no.



Please provide proof that police are required to have one or both on. They certainly do not and they have circumstances they are allowed to pursue without either on.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22373990 - 10/13/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Uzziel said:
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They are require to have one or the other or both.




Nope





:canthelpbutlaugh:

I don't know if you're actually being serious, or just trolling, but you are very wrong




So post a link to the Illinois state law that requires one or the other to be on.


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    #22373994 - 10/13/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Generally cops are not even permitted to engage in high speed chases unless there is a life threatening situation. The only life threatening situation here was the cop driving 100 mph


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374003 - 10/13/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)

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    #22374009 - 10/13/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course he violated the law. Speeding, reckless driving, and vehicular manslaughter.




So then charge him... if you can.

Except cops can speed when in pursuit, he wasn't driving recklessly and the pedestrian shares the fault.

But hey, other than that...



Another reason why coppers love people like you.  if im a cop im always..... In pursuit whos going to say otherwise???:facepalm:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374019 - 10/13/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)

................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374024 - 10/13/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No, the pedestrian is not to blame . The cop was speeding, and I think by law going 20mph over the limit is reckless driving. It is also reckless to drive emergency style with the emergency lights off.




Except cops can legally exceed the limit, he wasn't driving recklessly, and the idiot that got hit shares the blame.

But other than that... you're spot on.


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Obviously I can't charge him and when do cops ever get charged anyways? They mostly always get a free pass because they are cops. That is why I was saying that the good cops shouldn't stand for this behavior.




Cops do and have been charged. No-one can help that you missed it.




It was reckless. The cop made a mistake and forgot to turn on his emergency lights, or maybe he meant to leave them off. Cops make mistakes too. Do you ever see an ambulance or firetruck driving that fast without lights on? I've seen cops speed a little without lights, but once they get to 10 or 20mph over the limit the lights come on. Maybe it isn't the law, I don't know, but IMO the cop was reckless.

I know cops have been charged in the past, that is why I said mostly. I was making the point that it is rare for a cop to be punished with a sentence that fits the crime, or even convicted at all. They should be held to higher standards and have harsher punishments.


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    #22374033 - 10/13/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)

................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



If i ever become a cop and kill someone cuz i can drive at whatever speed i desire all i have to say is..... Hmmmm bruh? I was in pursuit of a reckless driver. Case closed. You people are naive




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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Kinko]
    #22374035 - 10/13/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course he violated the law. Speeding, reckless driving, and vehicular manslaughter.




So then charge him... if you can.

Except cops can speed when in pursuit, he wasn't driving recklessly and the pedestrian shares the fault.

But hey, other than that...



Another reason why coppers love people like you.  if im a cop im always..... In pursuit whos going to say otherwise???:facepalm:




I never met a cop who loved me.

Now, got a link to the laws that prohibited this cops behavior?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #22374050 - 10/13/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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It was reckless. The cop made a mistake and forgot to turn on his emergency lights, or maybe he meant to leave them off. Cops make mistakes too. Do you ever see an ambulance or firetruck driving that fast without lights on? I've seen cops speed a little without lights, but once they get to 10 or 20mph over the limit the lights come on. Maybe it isn't the law, I don't know, but IMO the cop was reckless.

I know cops have been charged in the past, that is why I said mostly. I was making the point that it is rare for a cop to be punished with a sentence that fits the crime, or even convicted at all. They should be held to higher standards and have harsher punishments.




The reckless behavior was on the idiot who crossed in front of a car.

Your opinion is worthless unless you can point to a law the cop broke. Can you?


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374072 - 10/13/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was disagreeing with uzziel. I have to agree this event was not an emergency event, but to me he was making it seem like cops and other emergency vehicles do not have to obey speed limits, stop signs, and red lights, even if they don't have lights or sirens on which just sounds ridiculous.

I found this, regarding the illinois vehicle act

DEFINITION:

The Illinois Vehicle Code defines an authorized emergency vehicle as a vehicle which has both visual (flashing and rotating lights) and audible (siren) warning devices in operation when responding to an emergency call.  If both the siren and lights are not operating the vehicle is not an authorized emergency vehicle and not entitled to privileges contained in the statutes.

IV) STATE LAW:

State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic. However, each driver of an emergency vehicle must exercise caution and regard for the safety of all motorist, passengers, and pedestrians when operating an emergency vehicle.



Sorry, here in Canada cops and ambulances and firetrucks aren't just allowed to disobey all laws, not put sirens on, and blast through red lights at 100mph. I figured that kind of common sense was the same in the USA too. Sounds like from what I posted above they are allowed to circumvent that as long as they are putting nobody in danger...including pedestrians...problem is the cop did put someone in danger.

I also don't know if you can even consider a cop trying to catch up to a speeding motorist an emergency vehicle, but I can't find any laws at the moment pertaining to that. I have a feeling they aren't just allowed to speed twice the speed limit down a road with no sirens or lights on. If so, that is absolutely ridiculous.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374081 - 10/13/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What are you taking about? Who said the driver was going twice the speed
Limit? The cop had to stop, and turn around then he sped up to twice the speed limit to catch someone he thought might be speeding. Why not use his lights? If the interest is public safety then he should just like the law and police regulations state.

Police must follow te the state law ILCS 625 5/11 which states that emergency vehicles must use their lights or sirens when claiming an exemption to normal traffic laws.



http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh%2E+11+Art%2E+II&ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=110200000&SeqEnd=112900000


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    #22374087 - 10/13/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No-one has to twist what you said. Your cut-n-paste took care of that.

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    #22374095 - 10/13/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So are you telling me they don't generally go after speeders going twice the speed limit? (at 5 AM no less -----> drunk driver)

................uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



If i ever become a cop and kill someone cuz i can drive at whatever speed i desire all i have to say is..... Hmmmm bruh? I was in pursuit of a reckless driver. Case closed. You people are naive




You know all you cop haters seem to have some serious violent issues. Whats up with you guys? For being so against violence you guys sure are violent.



Cop hater? When i first got my motorcycle i was driving without a license or insurance and got pulled over , i was respectful at all times and got away with a warning , really nice officer.    Another time with my friend who was behind the wheel of my car intoxicated.( i was intoxicated and suspended dls) Got pulled over and the cop simply told us to call someone to pick us up .. Well my friends brother showed up wasted , with 6 warrants but turns out he knew one of the cops ... So instead of taking us to jail they gave us a ride home.....                Most cops are good and are needed otherwise there would be chaos... But people like  Loveemshrooms zappa and priso support police actions 100 percent of the time , without fail as to say police officers are not human because they do not make mistakes or are corrupted in any way.... Maybe they have family in law and order or are cops themselfs... Honestly anything is possible.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374098 - 10/13/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What are you taking about? Who said the driver was going twice the speed
Limit? The cop had to stop, and turn around then he sped up to twice the speed limit to catch someone he thought might be speeding. Why not use his lights? If the interest is public safety then he should just like the law and police regulations state.

Police must follow te the state law ILCS 625 5/11 which states that emergency vehicles must use their lights or sirens when claiming an exemption to normal traffic laws.



http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500050HCh%2E+11+Art%2E+II&ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=110200000&SeqEnd=112900000




Except...

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.




Keep trying.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374105 - 10/13/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What was I supposed to do, not cut and paste it and write it out word for word?

And you seem to have purposely not included the part where it says

However, each driver of an emergency vehicle must exercise caution and regard for the safety of all motorist, passengers, and pedestrians when operating an emergency vehicle.


This cop was not exercising caution for pedestrians.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374111 - 10/13/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Read the whole law. I just posted it. They are allow to disregard certain laws. It's called an emergency exception. And when claiming an emergency exception, they must use their lights and sirens. Not only is it a law, the police guidelines specifically state officers must follow the law.


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    #22374116 - 10/13/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have nev e r seen zapa , prisoner or lovemshroms speak ill of any law enforcement , makes me want to be a cop knowing people like you are out there. And abuse that power.  You 3 might help create a corrupted officer:lookslucrative:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22374119 - 10/13/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What was I supposed to do, not cut and paste it and write it out word for word?

And you seem to have purposely not included the part where it says

However, each driver of an emergency vehicle must exercise caution and regard for the safety of all motorist, passengers, and pedestrians when operating an emergency vehicle.


This cop was not exercising caution for pedestrians.




Your butthurt is impeding your thought process. I'd have cut-n-pasted it as well.

The part you think I purposely did not include wasn't purposely not included. It was trumped by the same cut-n-paste that seems to only matter when you want it to.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374122 - 10/13/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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What was I supposed to do, not cut and paste it and write it out word for word?

And you seem to have purposely not included the part where it says

However, each driver of an emergency vehicle must exercise caution and regard for the safety of all motorist, passengers, and pedestrians when operating an emergency vehicle.


This cop was not exercising caution for pedestrians.




dude... nobody is walking/running around in the middle of the road at 5 AM.

You can clearly see from the video that nothing is around, no cars, no people, nothing and all of the sudden this dude is running in the middle of the street

I'd say he was in the clear to speed up

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Read the whole law. I just posted it. They are allow to disregard certain laws. It's called an emergency exception. And when claiming an emergency exception, they must use their lights and sirens. Not only is it a law, the police guidelines specifically state officers must follow the law.




That is right... they can disregard if they find that the factors of pursuit is worth the factor of risk

Nobody else was on the road except for this one guy in the middle of the street.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22374126 - 10/13/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This is all you need to see...theres the law ---- The Illinois Vehicle Code defines an authorized emergency vehicle as a vehicle which has both visual (flashing and rotating lights) and audible (siren) warning devices in operation when responding to an emergency call.  If both the siren and lights are not operating the vehicle is not an authorized emergency vehicle and not entitled to privileges contained in the statutes.

I dont think ----
State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic---- means they can disregard the law that enables them to be considered an emergency vehicle in the first place.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374127 - 10/13/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Read the whole law. I just posted it. They are allow to disregard certain laws. It's called an emergency exception. And when claiming an emergency exception, they must use their lights and sirens. Not only is it a law, the police guidelines specifically state officers must follow the law.




I already did. The cop doesn't appear to have violated the law. Guidelines are not laws.

Keep trying.

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    #22374134 - 10/13/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I have nev e r seen zapa , prisoner or lovemshroms speak ill of any law enforcement




Then you either don't read much or just don't do well with written words.

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    #22374144 - 10/13/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What's amazing about that is they are the same type of people who constantly whine about tyrannical government and the loss of individual rights. Some of them even state they would shoot the police if they beat down their door. Yet, they consistently take the side of state power.

How do you think a government enforces tyranny? The police

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    #22374156 - 10/13/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Read the whole law. I just posted it. They are allow to disregard certain laws. It's called an emergency exception. And when claiming an emergency exception, they must use their lights and sirens. Not only is it a law, the police guidelines specifically state officers must follow the law.




I already did. The cop doesn't appear to have violated the law. Guidelines are not laws.

Keep trying.

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.






And you ignore the section of the law that states when disregarding the rules regulating normal traffic they must use emergency lights and sirens


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374185 - 10/13/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nope. I'm just just smart enough to realize what an exemption means.

Why aren't you?


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    #22374196 - 10/13/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

Emergency vehicle can claim an exemption, but when they do they must use emergency sirens or lights. READ THE FUCKING LAW AND STOP TALING OUT YOUR ASS.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374200 - 10/13/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I did read. They don't have to.

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    #22374212 - 10/13/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I did read. They don't have to.

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.







exactly.. I thought this line was really clear they can be exempt if they deem it safe it enough... which it did look safe enough since no one was on the road except for someone who shouldn't have been.


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    #22374225 - 10/13/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?


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    #22374237 - 10/13/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?





You ask yourself.... "Do I think it's a good idea to run across the road when nobody can see me and a car is barreling across the other way"?

If you answered no.... you'd be the percentage of people who survived

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374240 - 10/13/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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How do you make the determination whether or not someone should  or shouldnt be on a public road?




You ask koods. He seems to think his is the final word on all things.

Of course, that makes it all the more amusing when he makes it clear he actually does not.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374251 - 10/13/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nice politician style avoidance of a question, both of you, really lol

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #22374280 - 10/13/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A pedestrian should not be in the middle of the road with cars nearby. I don't think we need some E=MC^2 statements to make that anymore obvious.

If you need to cross the road, do it safely :shrug:


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374282 - 10/13/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    (d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.




police regulation state that officer MUST follow this rule.



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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374295 - 10/13/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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A pedestrian should not be in the middle of the road with cars nearby. I don't think we need some E=MC^2 statements to make that anymore obvious.

If you need to cross the road, do it safely :shrug:




If you need to drive on the road, do it safely


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374305 - 10/13/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I did read. They don't have to.

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State Law in Illinois permits emergency vehicles to disregard certain rules regulating the flow and control of the traffic.







exactly.. I thought this line was really clear they can be exempt if they deem it safe it enough... which it did look safe enough since no one was on the road except for someone who shouldn't have been.




Jesus Christ. This is the exemption to obeying the speed limit. The stipulation for this exemption is that you use your emergency lights and sirens.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374416 - 10/13/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Glad to see that I've put an end to the debate


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374435 - 10/13/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What... you mean I'm suppose to just sit here and refresh the page over and over to respond to your desperate attempt to "win"?

Yeah, okay koods.

I also don't see the part where it stipends "MUST USE SIRNS/LIGHTS AT ALL TIMES"... maybe you should be quoting where it says exactly that.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374458 - 10/13/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I posted the entire fucking law read it and stop being a troll


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374470 - 10/13/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you can double post to say you "won" but I simply asked for you to show where it says exactly what you said to be true? Really koods?

I am not trolling, what the fuck. I did read it and I didn't see it. So I asked you to show me.

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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374504 - 10/13/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So you can double post to say you "won" but I simply asked for you to show where it says exactly what you said to be true? Really koods?

I am not trolling, what the fuck. I did read it and I didn't see it. So I asked you to show me.

:facepalm:




I guess people need their shit spoon fed to them. This is the internet where people aren't capable of figuring shjt out for themselves

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    (625 ILCS 5/11-205) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11-205)
    Sec. 11-205. Public officers and employees to obey Act-Exceptions.
    (a) The provisions of this Chapter applicable to the drivers of vehicles upon the highways shall apply to the drivers of all vehicles owned or operated by the United States, this State or any county, city, town, district or any other political subdivision of the State, except as provided in this Section and subject to such specific exceptions as set forth in this Chapter with reference to authorized emergency vehicles.
    (b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle, when responding to an emergency call or when in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or when responding to but not upon returning from a fire alarm, may exercise the privileges set forth in this Section, but subject to the conditions herein stated.
    (c) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
        1. Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of
   
this Chapter;
        2. Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign,
   
but only after slowing down as may be required and necessary for safe operation;
        3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does
   
not endanger life or property;
        4. Disregard regulations governing direction of
   
movement or turning in specified directions.
    (d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.
    (e) The foregoing provisions do not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty of driving with due regard for the safety of all persons, nor do such provisions protect the driver from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of others.
    (f) Unless specifically made applicable, the provisions of this Chapter, except those contained in Section 11-204 and Articles IV and V of this Chapter, shall not apply to persons, motor vehicles and equipment while actually engaged in work upon a highway but shall apply to such persons and vehicles when traveling to or from such work.
(Source: P.A. 89-710, eff. 2-14-97; 90-257, eff. 7-30-97.)




And here are the regulations for officers stating they WILL comply with this section


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374507 - 10/13/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

(d) The exceptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle, other than a police vehicle, shall apply only when the vehicle is making use of either an audible signal when in motion or visual signals meeting the requirements of Section 12-215 of this Act.

"Other than a police vehicle"......yep... I read it right the first time. Police aren't required.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374516 - 10/13/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Then the police guidelines state they must comply


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22374536 - 10/13/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It says to exercise caution and use numerous factors to determine the worth of the perpetrator.

But you're being very aggressive with your posts, so I'm going to back off before I get banned by you or some stupid shit.

Bye. You win. I don't even care.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22374554 - 10/13/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yay I win


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22388855 - 10/16/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Then the police guidelines state they must comply




As has been demonstrated to you, there is a police exemption. It's already been pointed out that guidelines are not laws.

Perhaps some day you'll actually win.

You went way above and beyond demonstrating your inability to comprehend the written word. Good for you.

Watching people like you, zappa and endogenous beclown yourselves makes coming here entertaining.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: Uzziel]
    #22388950 - 10/16/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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But you're being very aggressive with your posts, so I'm going to back off before I get banned by you or some stupid shit.




You're looking at it the wrong way. Watching him act like a clown at the same time he's wrong... is thoroughly entertaining.


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Re: Cop Driving 100 mph without Lights or Siren Kills Pedestrian - No Charges [Re: koods]
    #22390406 - 10/16/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kinko said:
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Does that make it any less stupid to go across the road at 5 in the morning when it's dark out and no motherfucker can see you?

NO



Wow you are right he deserved to be killed for breaking the law and jaywalking... At 5 in the morning on top of that but why stop there? Kill anyone who breaks the law , especially druggies.






I never once said the guy deserved to be killed. I said he was fucking stupid. And he was. And he died because he was stupid.

Now go fuck off with your cry baby shit.




Except you are ignoring the part where the cop was driving twice the road's speed limit without emergency lights or sirens. The reason cops have lights and sirens is to warn people that they aren't driving like a normal automobile. Why does the cop get away with this? It cost someone their life.

This cop put catching a possible speeder and getting another ticket in his name and some cash for his town above the safety of its citizens. That is unacceptable.





if you run out into traffic then you deserve what ever happens to you


and... cops arent always reuired to have their lights and sirens on, frequently
they are advised not to run the lights and sirens


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